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2014/07/10 18:18:47
Subject: "We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
Imagine for a moment what it’d be like if we resurrected gladiator fights in the modern day.
Not that American Gladiator, bodybuilders-shooting-tennis-balls-at-substitute-gym-teachers nonsense either. I’m talking proper Roman gladiator fights. Full contact, no-holds-barred, Russel-Crowe-style deathmatches broadcast on national TV.
Right. No way. The world we live in is much more civilized than the one the Romans inhabited, and that kind of brutality just isn’t considered a valid form of entertainment anymore. Nobody would stand for it.
But what if you took out the whole human slaughter part out of the equation? Imagine if you could toss two trained fighters into a ring, give them whatever weapons they want, and and let them go full-on Spartacus on each other without anyone getting seriously injured. With the death element removed, even the most die-hard pacifists would have to admit that it’d be pretty damn entertaining.
In a nutshell, that’s exactly what Australian startup Unified Weapons Master wants to do. The company’s founders are on a mission to bring back weapons-based fighting, and have spent the last few years developing a way for weapons-based martial artists to fight without eviscerating each other in the process.
“For us it’s about honoring, preserving, and reigniting interest in weapons-based martial arts — arts that have sort of slowly drifted off of people’s radar since the invention of gunpowder and projectile weapons,” explains UWM co-founder and CEO David Pysden. “Since then, there’s been no forum in which to see weapons-based marital arts practiced, and we want to change that.”
“Our objective,” he says, “is to promote a new global combat sport with weapons. So the unified in Unified Weapons Master is about bringing all the different weapons arts from all around the world together in a single competition. There’s roughly 300 distinct martial arts practiced around the world, and of those styles, 96 of them are either entirely weapons-based, or have a significant amount of weapons-based training in their curriculum. What we want to do is bring all of those styles together in a competition, much like UFC did with mixed martial arts.”
The only problem is that, barring all-out death matches, there’s really no way for weapons based martial artists to really test their skills. When you’re practicing with, say, a battle axe or a katana, you can’t actually follow through on the last shot because there’s a pretty good chance you’ll murder your opponent.
So how exactly do you facilitate a weapons fight without actually killing anybody? In a word: technology.
The suit
To make all of this possible and enable this sort of next-gen gladiator fighting, UWM’s founders have spent the past two years engineering a special suit called the Lorica — a name which literally translates to “body armor” in Latin. But don’t let the name fool you; this thing is much more than a series of hard plates designed for protection. The suit does do that, of course, but protection is just one part of the equation.
“The armor itself is made out of a sort of sandwich of high-performance materials.” Pysden tells us. “On the outside there’s some impact- and penetrative-resistant materials such as carbon fiber, and beneath that there’s a bunch of polycarbonate material and elastomeric foam, which is impact absorbent.”
If you check out some of the demo videos the company has put together, you can see for yourself what Pysden is talking about when he says “impact absorbent.” There’s footage of a guy getting repeatedly beaten over the head with a staff, and it doesn’t seem to faze him even the slightest bit.
“We deliberately over-engineered the suits, for obvious reasons,” he says. “Our chairman and co-founder, Justin Forsell, has tested the suit himself, and we’ve done that with world-champion martial artists. So in other words, we’ve put the best people available up against guys in the suits and had them attack with traditional martial arts and weapons-based martial arts, and the suits have passed with flying colors. They are very, very well built.”
But under the hood is where things really start to get crazy.
Underneath all that carbon fiber and impact-resistant foam, the Lorica is outfitted with a dizzying array of sensors, all of which are designed to detect when a given part of the armor is struck. The suit uses a combination of piezoelectric shock/vibration sensors and accelerometers to measure not only where a fighter lands a hit on his opponent, but also the approximate severity of the blow. Amazingly, all of this data is collected by the suit in real time during a fight and beamed wirelessly to a special ringside computer system that keeps score.
The scoring system hasn’t been fully ironed out just yet, but according to Pysden, UWM’s custom-built software draws on medical research to calculate the damage that would’ve been inflicted on an unprotected body. Therefore, once the system is finished, it’ll presumably work a lot like an old-school arcade fighting game: Every time a fighter is dealt a blow, his or her health bar will drop by an amount commensurate to the severity and location of the hit. So in other words, when the first UWM fights kick off in 2015, they’ll probably look a lot like Mortal Kombat, but in real life.
But of course, you can’t have a proper live-action arcade-style weapons brawl if both fighters are lumbering, heavy-footed human armadillos. A good fight requires a certain measure of agility, so in addition to all the armor plating and sensor tech, UWM had to design the Lorica in such a way that it still allowed freedom of motion.
“We had to solve a bunch of problems before we built the prototypes” Pysden explains. “People have been building armor for thousand of years, but what they’ve never had to do before is encase all of this technology in the armor and make it work. But more importantly, when the knights were fighting back in the medieval days, they weren’t throwing kicks to the head. They were generally on horses or on foot, and typically weren’t using marital arts as part of their combat. That’s the big difference here — we wanted to develop suits where you had the articulation and mobility to fight as you would in unarmed, unarmored combat, but to be able to do that with weapons.”
Round two
UWM has made some impressive progress in the past couple years, but building the suits was only half the battle. They’ve still got a long road ahead of them before fights begin. At present, the company has produced four working prototypes of the Lorica, so for now, the next step is finalizing the design and building production versions of the suit.
“We’re hoping to hold competitions by early next year, so we’ve still got some more work to do to build the production models of the suit and take the software up to world-class quality,” Psyden says. “But we’re close to finalizing our Series B round of funding, and once we do that we’ll have the resources we need to build out those production versions of the suit.”
After that, it’s game on. By the time the first suits roll off the assembly line next year, Psyden says UWM should already be holding the first rounds of competitions in Australia. The plan is to hold the first first few bouts as small, private events, and use them as a sort of beta-testing program to make sure everything runs properly and iron out any wrinkles in the scoring system.
“From there, we want to slowly build things out,” he says, “and get feedback from those guys on the build, the scoring system, and how it all works. Then we want to slowly improve that until it’s ready to launch on a larger scale. Eventually, we want to hold competitions in countries all around the world.”
“We’ve got the historical European martial artists chomping at the bit to take on the various Asian styles, and we can’t wait to see who comes out on top there. We’ll have knife-fighting champions, sword-fighting champions, staff fighters — all those different styles will be able to compete against each other for the first time. What we eventually think will happen is certain styles and certain weapons forms will actually come out on top, but we won’t know that for sure until we start competition.”
I want to do this... can I do this? PLEASE LET ME BE ABLE TO DO THIS!!!
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2014/07/10 18:23:23
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
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2014/07/10 21:01:00
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
We kinda do already have fencing and martial competition with wooden swords and stuff. personally if they where going to do this i would hope they use suits like the one in enders game where getting hit is of consequence.
Edit: Also Awesome, cant wait to see people beat the gak out of each other for entertainment.
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The word AWESOME, written all in caps is indeed the only word capable of describing this idea. As long as people don't die, gladiator fights would be the best thing to watch ever.
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2014/07/10 21:19:25
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
Screw that. I want to see a Phalanx vs. the mighty X Legion in testudo formation.
or alternatively ninjas vs. Spartans.
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2014/07/10 21:25:14
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
What about Death Row inmates volunteering to actually fight in an arena for their freedom? Based on entertainment today I doubt we've civilized our bloodluust. I wonder just how many people would actually watch gladiator fights if they happened today. Would it be better that it's behind a TV screen for most?
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2014/07/10 21:46:57
Subject: "We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
Just occurred to me. Freaking Pay Per View material.
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2014/07/10 22:39:12
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
Jihadin wrote: Just occurred to me. Freaking Pay Per View material.
I have the internet.
LOL they charge for that episode to
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2014/07/11 03:49:21
Subject: "We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
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2014/07/11 05:08:49
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
That experiment did work real well with MR2D2 in Bagram Lord
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2014/07/11 05:45:19
Subject: "We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
This must happen!
Can we get a Kickstarter?
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Seems interesting however I am somewhat suspect that the joints will be flexible enough to allow full on martial arts while providing enough protection from edged and even blunt weaponry.
Could be pretty cool. Watching martial arts is interesting, throw in weapons and the greater variety that brings and you've got something pretty damn cool going on here.
So, when are they starting the rebuild of the Colosseum?
2014/07/11 11:50:37
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"
I'm not impressed honestly. Watching the video on their site looked rather boring. They have no real fear of being hurt at all, and their scores are kept by computer. So they have no real care of skill and the will to not get a sword in the gut, so they just kinda wail on each other till the clock counts down.
Nope, not for me at all.
2014/07/11 11:53:31
Subject: Re:"We who are about to die, salute you.... CRIKEY!"