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Bounding Assault Marine





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Why don't space marines carry wire cutters of any sort or anything for breaching doors or anything of that sort or even equipment to cut locks, plasma cutters for bigger doors Amy kind of gear for getting through things without just punching them cause they are space marines. I mean when you look at actual special forces military gear they have all sorts of awesome gear on them not just some extra ammo clips and grenades and one melt a bomb mag locked on...
Am I the only one this bothers??
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





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You have answered your own question there old chap, special forces carry that gear to get through dooors, barbed wire etc. A space marines armour is heavy enough and has enough protection just to walk through barbed wire, and can easy just go through a wall or door without fear of injuring itself, us normal humans can tear ligaments, pop knees and break bones trying to kick doors in, and barbed wire would rip us apart.

   
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And if you meet a door that can resist punching, power fists or thunder hammers can work miracles on opening them.

That or a dreadnought with ccw weapon :-)

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To get through a particularly large door, modern breaching techniques involve destroying the lock, hinges or doorframe. Something to make the door not a door anymore. A Bolter round is a shaped charge, every single bullet. If there's a door that a Space Marine can't go through, they shoot it. If the Bolter isn't enough, they use a bigger gun.

If you ask about stealth, well, it's a powered suit with a generator backpack, they aren't going to sneak through silently cutting wires. The Codex even states that stealth is for lesser soldiers and that an Astartes proudly marches to war in his Chapter's colors. Stealth isn't big on the list of priorities.
   
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If that doesn't work, Orbital Bombardment lol

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Chainfists are extremely effective for opening doors.
And if all else fails, they still carry that melta charge, don't they?

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Yeah I don't think superhuman megamen who wear crazy armor that augments their already insane strength really need a dems expert or some wire cutters.

Someone will have a set of Lightning claws, I reckon they could do a better job anyway!

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 RileyJessup wrote:
Why don't space marines carry wire cutters of any sort or anything for breaching doors or anything of that sort or even equipment to cut locks, plasma cutters for bigger doors Amy kind of gear for getting through things without just punching them cause they are space marines. I mean when you look at actual special forces military gear they have all sorts of awesome gear on them not just some extra ammo clips and grenades and one melt a bomb mag locked on...
Am I the only one this bothers??

Be aide a space marine could probably spit through anything that would need a plasma cutter.
   
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 P4Painting wrote:
If that doesn't work, Orbital Bombardment lol


If the space marines have been called in, orbital bombardment has already failed.
   
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Is there anything to say that they don't? You could easily fit a load of small tools into compartments built into their power armour or weapons. They might even be built into parts of the armour. I expect that marines carry enough stuff to handle basic electrical repair just to maintain their armour.

I don't think marines are likely to need hammers or rams; anything that can't be knocked down by a marine kicking it is likely to require krak grenades or power weapons. Their combat blades should be able to handle anything you would want a knife, machete or axe for. Most squads will have at least a chainsword for cutting through really tough stuff and krak grenades or melta bombs for demolitions work. The only large tools I can think of which they seem to need are shovels.

   
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 Perfect Organism wrote:
Is there anything to say that they don't? You could easily fit a load of small tools into compartments built into their power armour or weapons. They might even be built into parts of the armour. I expect that marines carry enough stuff to handle basic electrical repair just to maintain their armour.

I don't think marines are likely to need hammers or rams; anything that can't be knocked down by a marine kicking it is likely to require krak grenades or power weapons. Their combat blades should be able to handle anything you would want a knife, machete or axe for. Most squads will have at least a chainsword for cutting through really tough stuff and krak grenades or melta bombs for demolitions work. The only large tools I can think of which they seem to need are shovels.
Not really. Have you ever looked at a Space Marine's hands?

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 Formosa wrote:
You have answered your own question there old chap, special forces carry that gear to get through dooors, barbed wire etc. A space marines armour is heavy enough and has enough protection just to walk through barbed wire, and can easy just go through a wall or door without fear of injuring itself, us normal humans can tear ligaments, pop knees and break bones trying to kick doors in, and barbed wire would rip us apart.



They don't even need doors, they can just run clean through concrete. Astartes enter buildings Bad Company style.

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What do you think Chaos Marines have those horns for? They make excellent multi-purpose tools.

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Bounding Assault Marine





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I'm just saying tho a marine can still become tangled in barbed wire if there is enough of it and if its made to hold marines.. And tthey would definitely need to use some form of stealth especially scouts! A special forces squad that is sent in on fast strikes would need to move with speed and stealth so running around kicking down doors and fences and running through walls is probably going to put a damper on their mission
   
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Meltabombs are the 40k universe's answer to breaching doors.

Most of the doors the Marinese will have to break through are closer to Vault Doors than the standard rod-and-pin locks most military stealth gear is designed to get through.



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 RileyJessup wrote:
I'm just saying tho a marine can still become tangled in barbed wire if there is enough of it and if its made to hold marines.. And tthey would definitely need to use some form of stealth especially scouts! A special forces squad that is sent in on fast strikes would need to move with speed and stealth so running around kicking down doors and fences and running through walls is probably going to put a damper on their mission


Scouts are already depicted with additional pouches for "stuff". Marines are in powered armour and are therefore much faster than unaugmented humans and require stealth much less. As soon as you can shrug off light weapons fire the need to prevent getting hit drops off quite quickly.

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