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**Uriels_Flame**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
pretre wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Good God. Someone took the time to use the spray paint tool in MS Paint to spray out the rules.

Which is stupid since they already leaked. /facepalm.

Almost as inane as saying things like "A Land Raider minus 35!" for points costs.

Notice they didn't spray out the point cost of the unit though...

**Kid_Kyoto**

Sidstyler wrote:
Funny story, I saw Kid_Kyoto's fake rumors thread in 40k General earlier where he posted the White Dwarf cover, calling it a bad photoshop job, and thought "Thank god, I thought that was real for a second."

What? you mean it is real?

**Kal-El**

Panic wrote:
yeah,

Makes sense.

Panic...

I thought this made it all make sense LOL. I don't like the model. Sure it looks like the space barges, but it just doesn't look right.

**AllSeeingSkink**

His Master's Voice wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
This happens to be the most SM looking flier ever made by GW proper and people are complaining. Kinda funny.
I'm not sure what makes it "the most SM looking flier ever", to me it just looks ugly as hell. FWIW, I also think the other SM fliers are ugly as hell, just in a different way. The only half decent ones are the Stormeagle and Thunderhawk.

This is literally the exact same design pattern the Hawk and Eagle have.

They all have the same aerodynamic functionality too.

Consistency, yo. Angled plates and curves have no place in SM vehicle, unless they're heresy era.

It's the same design pattern in the sense it's angled, but there's more to looking good than having angles vs curves. Hell, my favourite 40k fliers are the Marauder and the Thunderbolt, they don't have any curves at all.

FWIW, I don't like the FW Assault Ram as a flier either (looks ok as a space based assault ram, but it looks silly as an atmospheric flier to me).

So what does make this "the most SM looking flier ever" anyway?

**Paradigm**

New pics convince me a little more. Still no way I'll be getting one, but I think it looks pretty cool in a sort of flying-brick-with-immense-firepower sort of way.

'Ancient Warriors of Fenris'? Possible SW Dread kit, or jumping to conclusions?

**Anpu42**

Kosake wrote:
The new flyer... is a brick. Did anyone actually modell that thing? Looks like they took a brick, glued on some spare bits and called it a day.

Just like the F-4 Phantom?

**Kid_Kyoto**

Ragnar69 wrote:

Helfrost - If a model suffers one or more unsaved wounds from this weapon, it must pass a separate Strength test for each wound suffered or be removed from play

New weapon?

Crazy new mechanic?

The only thing that could make it better (by which I mean stupider) would be a d100 table!

76-81 Left arm/limb frozen, model may not use any weapon or equipment held in that hand
82-84 Right leg/limb frozen, movement is halved, model must pass both a strength check and a toughness check to free himself. If the model fails the toughness check then he has succeeded in breaking off the frozen leg and immediately takes one wound with no save possible. Alternately a model with a flamer may use it to free himself but must roll to wound himself with the flamer, normal armour saves apply.
85-87 Left leg/limb frozen...

**Mr Morden**

So how much do we reckon this will cost in actuall money

**Kosake**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Kosake wrote:
Looks like they took a brick, glued on some spare bits and called it a day.

It looks like they looked at a couple other things from 40K and based its form on that, which is more than they ever did for the Chibi-Hawk.

I know about the Caestus. That twin-door design is also quite blocky but shows a bit of work put into the desing process and is decent enough. The Flywolf here is really just a block with a couple of missile racks taped on.

**A Town Called Malus**

Mr Morden wrote:
So how much do we reckon this will cost in actuall money

The equivalent of a kidney and a half.

Two livers if you're in Australia.

**Uriels_Flame**

$75 is what I'm guessing.

On par for Land Raider/Flyer kits.

**H.B.M.C.**

pretre wrote:
You beat me to it. I think it is an established shape and looks great for boarding actions.

Which is why the non-assault ramp one looks stupid.

pretre wrote:
Also, I noticed that the rumors have been spelling Hel with one L. That makes me so happy.

Not rumours. Even with the hasty application of Iron™ Curtain™ Red™ spray to that picture you can see it has one L.

**His Master's Voice**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Hell, my favourite 40k fliers are the Marauder and the Thunderbolt, they don't have any curves at all.

They're also very clearly not SM in terms of aesthetic.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
So what does make this "the most SM looking flier ever" anyway?

Take a Thunderhawk. Look at it. Then look at this model. If you can't see the startling similarity, no words will make a difference.

**dragqueeninspace**

Anpu42 wrote:
Kosake wrote:
The new flyer... is a brick. Did anyone actually modell that thing? Looks like they took a brick, glued on some spare bits and called it a day.

Just like the F-4 Phantom?

Important difference the one of the spare bits added to the phantom was wings.

Still it is faintly reminiscent of the old ford transit Thunderhawks.

**Daveh**

Uriels_Flame wrote:
$75 is what I'm guessing.

On par for Land Raider/Flyer kits.

£65 on par with the MorkaGorka. GW have lost their minds when it comes to pricing.

**Vaktathi**

That flyer looks worse than I could have imagined...

It's a chibi lovechild-abortion of a Stormtalon and a Caestus ram.

Who on earth thought that was a good idea to let out the door?

**Uriels_Flame**

Daveh wrote:
Uriels_Flame wrote:
$75 is what I'm guessing.

On par for Land Raider/Flyer kits.

£65 on par with the MorkaGorka. GW have lost their minds when it comes to pricing.

That's not part of the debate, that's a given.

**Bulldogging**

Anyone else notice next WD after that one has

"Ancient Warriors of Fenris"

and "More Rules"

Wonder if it's another unit, or just random article.

**Anpu42**

dragqueeninspace wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:
Kosake wrote:
The new flyer... is a brick. Did anyone actually modell that thing? Looks like they took a brick, glued on some spare bits and called it a day.

Just like the F-4 Phantom?

Important difference the one of the spare bits added to the phantom was wings.

Still it is faintly reminiscent of the old ford transit Thunderhawks.

True, but they did not need them sometimes.

I like the story a crew F-4 chief friend of mine told me about a F-4 landing with only 6"of one wing left.

To me the new flier reminds of an old F-4 joke:
MD Exec: No you can't make a Brick fly!
MD Designer: I bet you we can!

**Bolognesus**

BrookM had it as €64 - I'm pretty sure that would make it less than GBP 65?

Also: wow. just, wow. Completely stopped playing 40k for a long while now, yet I might have to get more than one of these. This really is what a space marine flier ought to look like. Sure, there's always something that could be done better, but this thing really is seven shades of awesome.

**pretre**

**Happygrunt**

I like it, it is a shame thought that only SW will be getting what amounts to an assault boat, at least for now...

Urge to make SW viking raiders army raising...

**Bulldogging**

Oh gak, check out the pilot. Nice!

Hint: Iron Priest.

That makes me wonder if the plastic Iron Priest kit is also real now. Since they have the helmet design etc.

**Hydrapup**

This is the best thing they have done since the knight... its not flawless but it is way above my expectations. I'm tempted to run a couple beside a caustus for my Pre heresy EC. Good times.

**Vaktathi**

He's packed in there so tight he can't turn around...

**A Town Called Malus**

Vaktathi wrote:
He's packed in there so tight he can't turn around...

Someone should model some wingmirrors on the sides so he can see what's coming up alongside/above/behind him.

**Looky Likey**

I love my Caestus, this doesn't look as good at all, think I will get another Caestus and use that with the new rules instead, I don't play anybody who would complain.

**streamdragon**

I really, really hope the skull on top of the brick isn't molded in place.

Not because I don't want it there, but because I want a bunch to put on everything.

**VanHallan**

Am I the only one that wishes GW would have left flyers out of 40k altogether? This look like something straight out of looney tunes.

**Hulksmash**

I think I can manage the skull molded on since I play Iron Warriors and I could just paint it gold. I'm less sure about the work involved in removing stuff from the ramps and the sides of the flyer. I can't wait to see the sprues!!!!!!