Rumors of plastic sisters

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**Veteran Sergeant**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:The fact they have decided to neglect an already existing army that has been present for more than 15 years, and demote it out of the main armies, without any notice, is the problem, not the excuse.

Without any notice? lol

You didn't even need any Sisters of Battle to play with Codex: Witch Hunters. They were just shoehorned in there so you could use the models if you wanted to. This is a faction that hasn't gotten a new model from GW in over ten years.

Take heart that at the very least they've continued to publish updated rules for them. Squat players didn't even get that much consideration.

**John Rainbow**

Plastic sister models were rumoured to have been completed a long time ago...

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Anyone else remember those design sketches with the veils and stuff?

**Snrub**

pretre wrote:As much as I agree with him, this has been suggested since the GK box came out.

Oh pish posh.

I have come up with a brilliant (and completely original) idea!
They should do an all-in-one Space Marine box!
You'd get 3 marines with all the options for tactical, assault, devestator, command and veterans!
All for the low low price of your kidney. (2 kidneys if you're in Japan and 2 kidneys and your first born if you're in Australia/New Zealand.) (For kidney/first born removal we recommend using your nearest GW approved removal specialist surgeon)

**H.B.M.C.**

Achaylus72 wrote:
Meaning that if correct, once they get the go ahead to begin "Project X" it'll still be at least two years minimum before the new SoB range comes out, so that'll be mid 2016 at the very earliest.

Project X is just Sanctus Reach.

**Achaylus72**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Achaylus72 wrote:
Meaning that if correct, once they get the go ahead to begin "Project X" it'll still be at least two years minimum before the new SoB range comes out, so that'll be mid 2016 at the very earliest.

Project X is just Sanctus Reach.

Ok so Project "XYZ", it doesn't change the fact if Project XYZ got the nod today Sisters wont be released until August 2016 at the earliest, meaning it still two years away.

As I have said anyone here that has absolute ironclad proof to the diff, put it up and back that up with a release date.

**MWHistorian**

Plastic SOB? I don't believe it for a second. I've been hearing the same garbage rumors since I first bought them back in 2nd edition.

**Kilkrazy**

Gaz Taylor wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Gaz Taylor wrote:
Another reason, is that GW are really secretive now due to the rise of competitors

So, you mean that if they announce they will release, say, Sisters of Battle later in the year, then Privateer Press will be able to… what exactly?

Steal ideas? I'm sure there are other reasons but that's the easiest one my simple brain can manage today

I think what GW don't want is for a competitor to see something they are working on and come out with a very similar model but it's cheaper. Privateer Press is probably a bad example in this case but at time of writing was one of the few miniature companies I could think of

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If Privateer Press or Mantic wanted to make a set of plastic Not Sisters they could do it right now. They don't have to wait for Games Workshop to release them. The only thing to stop them is if they think GW would sue them for making something that looks like a GW product. In that respect, Sisters are one of the more distinctive armies.

**Brother SRM**

John Rainbow wrote:

Anyone else remember those design sketches with the veils and stuff?

I remember rumors of veils and the like, but that was via Stickmonkey or some other notoriously unreliable rumormonger if I recall correctly.

**BlackTalos**

Hey all, plastic sisters would sound like an idea, but from the link in the OP it seems like something else.

I personally had a word when last at a FW sales day in London. I play Sisters of Battle and told the guy "if only you had more than just that repressor" kind of comment.

He then replied i should stick on my toes because they may have something coming. Between that and these few rumors flying around, i am quite sure FW is up to something (and hence people thinking "GW products" - cause FW is still "GW").

Either Plastic sisters (Resin sisters?) or more probably "Sisters of Silence" for their current Horus Heresy focus.

Take with salt, but personal view / interaction.

**UltraPrime**

Achaylus72 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Achaylus72 wrote:
Meaning that if correct, once they get the go ahead to begin "Project X" it'll still be at least two years minimum before the new SoB range comes out, so that'll be mid 2016 at the very earliest.

Project X is just Sanctus Reach.

Ok so Project "XYZ", it doesn't change the fact if Project XYZ got the nod today Sisters wont be released until August 2016 at the earliest, meaning it still two years away.

As I have said anyone here that has absolute ironclad proof to the diff, put it up and back that up with a release date.

That's not how it works. YOU prove they ARE coming out. I can just as easily say that the 8th starter will contain Hrudd and Squats, and you just prove it doesn't! I think we know the outcome of this one.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Veteran Sergeant wrote:
You didn't even need any Sisters of Battle to play with Codex: Witch Hunters.

Do you mean, like Grey Knight in that Demon Hunter codex?

**H.B.M.C.**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Veteran Sergeant wrote:
You didn't even need any Sisters of Battle to play with Codex: Witch Hunters.

Do you mean, like Grey Knight in that Demon Hunter codex?

Pretty sure he did. I had a Witch Hunter and a Daemon Hunter army. To this day I don't own a single Sister model other than the Hospitaller that came with the Inquisitor box.

**TyraelVladinhurst**

i feel pretty bad for this thread and very bad for my dear Sisters of Battle. 80% chance they get killed off in some god awful fashion like getting eaten by Khorne or some such nonsense

**H.B.M.C.**

There's always been a Damocleasian sword hanging above the Sisters as a viable separate force in 40K. This latest news shouldn't be depressing. Hell it shouldn't even be surprising.

**TyraelVladinhurst**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's always been a Damocleasian sword hanging above the Sisters as a viable separate force in 40K. This latest news shouldn't be depressing. Hell it shouldn't even be surprising.

to you it may not be, my friend, but to me it is quite depressing. i love my gun toting girls, guess back to converting sisters of silence then

**Troike**

Achaylus72 wrote:
Please treat this as a rumour, but I may have some info on this.

My info goes like this. As of next year around July 2015 GW will hand over Sisters of Battle to Forge World and they'll be a full multi part resin kit.

However, this is only for a short as if what I am hearing is true, you see if the info is correct, GW is introducing a new Faction into 40,000 and it will be called "Children of Chaos"
this new "Chaos" faction will be basically Space Beastmen. However bringing in a new faction means the culling of an established faction and according to what I have been told there is no place for plastic SoB.

This ties in well, as Forge World will bring out a rehash GW Codex for SoB but under "Forge World" title, but they can only be fielded as an auxiliary force and not a stand alone army. As I have said this will be a short time and by the 1st Qtr of 2016
Forge World will withdraw SoB from the range, this has been done this way so that GW and Citadel Miniatures can wash their hands of SoB and the squatting of SoB will be Forge Worlds fault.

I hope this is wrong, but I have had it told to me more than once and one of those is a former games developer of GW that shall never be named.

So... GW is going to make FW spend time and resources making resin SoBs and rules to go with them, only to quickly drop them? And why is Phil Kelly going around saying that he wants to work on the SoB in the future, or GW devs dropping hints about SoB releases?

Brother SRM wrote:
John Rainbow wrote:

Anyone else remember those design sketches with the veils and stuff?

I remember rumors of veils and the like, but that was via Stickmonkey or some other notoriously unreliable rumormonger if I recall correctly.

Yes, pretty sure that was Stickmonkey.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
This latest news shouldn't be depressing. Hell it shouldn't even be surprising.

What news? The GW people mentioning them at the seminar, or the random and very questionable claim that they will go through some convoluted FW drop? Because one is good news, and one isn't all that believable.

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
i feel pretty bad for this thread and very bad for my dear Sisters of Battle. 80% chance they get killed off in some god awful fashion like getting eaten by Khorne or some such nonsense

You can't really just "kill off" all of the SoB like that. They're based on Terra and the Imperium's second holiest world. And have smaller groups spread across the Imperium. A "squatting" of the SoB would probably be more just demoting them to a background force, like the PDF or the Arbites.

**StraightSilver**

Sisters of battle are not being squatted, and they are also not being given over to FW.

FW will be doing some Sisters of Silence at some point, most likely when they do Prospero - so alongside Heresy Wolves and Thousand Sons.

However I spoke to Jes Goodwin at length a while ago and the plastics are presenting some technical difficulties.

However the new release schedule means that things can be released without a full Codex.

So the impression I got is that at some point when they are ready they could drop some Sisters models with rules or a data slate in WD without having to commit to a full Codex.

Essentially they want to re-release Sisters, more than likely in plastic, but much like the Dark Eldar they want to do them properly and feel they are worth the wait. The new release schedule allows them to drip feed them back in, but I don't think they'll be any time soon as other projects seem to be taking priority.

**Troike**

@StraightSilver
They are even reported to have hinted at Sisters getting a non-codex release, even.

+ Supplements will become more popular and replace the typical ‘new codex & new units’ cycle (though this will still happen when the time’s right). The supplements enable GW to add brand new units at a faster pace to armies without complete Codex rewrites or waiting for the conveyor belt to come round. There was a strong hint at something Sisters related in the future in this regards.

The guy in the OP of this thread seems to be saying the same thing, too.

**Kanluwen**

Troike wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:
John Rainbow wrote:

Anyone else remember those design sketches with the veils and stuff?

I remember rumors of veils and the like, but that was via Stickmonkey or some other notoriously unreliable rumormonger if I recall correctly.

Yes, pretty sure that was Stickmonkey.

It was actually before Stickmonkey but he latched onto it. I can't remember who exactly it was but I distinctly remember Stickmonkey latching on to the whole "veils" rumor and talking about how it was represented in the new rules for Sisters and units with the veils had a 2+ or some such nonsense.

**Kilkrazy**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's always been a Damocleasian sword hanging above the Sisters as a viable separate force in 40K. This latest news shouldn't be depressing. Hell it shouldn't even be surprising.

If the Sisters of Battle unexpectedly become the sole operators of an army of giant lady robot type war machines, perhaps with two variants -- a gun and a giant chainsaw -- they could become a viable army with its own codex.

There is a precedent and there are some example artwork from amazingly enough, Japan.

Giant Girl Bot attacks Tokyo.

Attack Dance Bots with Sisters crews dressed in armour.

**Erasoketa**

SoB are the new Dark Eldar. I hope they get the same treatment.

**MrFlutterPie**

I'm tired of waiting with uncertainty.

GW needs to ***** or get of the pot. Either re-do them as full proper army release ala Dark Eldar or squat them.

I'm tired of waiting and I'm tired of nearly 20 years of BS.

I just want an answer either way.

**Musashi363**

So, in almost a decade (since the supposed rumors) GW still can't figure out how to sculpt sleeves? I know the SOBs are religious but still clinging to that rumor is pure, unfounded faith.

**Kanluwen**

Actually, the initial plastic Sisters rumor might be near a decade old...but the "issue with flowing sleeves/cloth" part comes from when Dark Eldar were released.

**MrFlutterPie**

The whole "plastic sleeve problems" is BS.

Even if you were to believe in the sleeve issues, In 10 years there has been enough time to go back to the drawing board and redesign them from the ground up in a whole new aesthetics like 2ed orks to 3rd orks.

By changing the look of the Sobs completely also has the advantage to get the few sister players to buy a whole new army so it matches. If plastic sisters were ever to be released in the same style as the current metals there is no way I am wasting money to re-buy my bolter, special/heavy weapons etc. Why waste money? I would just buy the brand new units and save a ton of cash. Now there is a financial advantage for GW to change the look. Nets them a few more sales from existing players and gets around the so called robe issues.

The simple fact is GW doesn't want to.

**Kanluwen**

It hasn't been ten years at all in regards to the sleeve issue.

The earliest confirmed statement we have of Jes Goodwin actively working on Sisters of Battle is 2008-2009, the same timeframe as Dark Eldar being tooled up. The Dark Eldar stuff saw a final release in 2010.

So knock off the ten years crap.

**StraightSilver**

Yep, it was October 2010 when I spoke to Jes about Sisters, I had a long chat with him at the Dark Eldar launch at Warhammer World.

Original thread here, amongst the Dark Eldar stuff I talk a bit about the problems with plastic SoB:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?282133-Jes-Goodwin-at-Dark-Eldar-Launch&s=c337ba7292f4ac56d67c13a97bd985af

It really isn't BS, trust me, to get the type of minis Jes wants in plastic just wasn't possible then, but with the lessons learned with Dark Eldar he thought they could go back and revisit Sisters.

It isn't just the sleeves on the arms, it's also the hair funnily enough.

The point is Jes is very proud of the original SoB models and wants the refresh them in the same way they did with Dark Eldar. In other words a complete overhaul, and they won't be released until he is happy with them, or at least that's the impression I get.

**pretre**

Hey, look it's a source for that. Thanks, SS!

**StraightSilver**

No worries, it was actually really weird reading back through that thread today as there are lots of Easter eggs in that I hadn't spotted before, but with the beauty of hind sight are fairly obvious.

Jes was obvioulsy teasing me about the Eldar Wraith Knight, and the FW Heresy Ad Mech stuff, which was 4 years ago....

**Medium of Death**

I'd love to see these design sketches with veils if they exist.

Sounds like a nice change if true.