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 judgedoug wrote:

Perhaps the Mantic rallying cry will change from Mantic... almost! to Mantic... alright! haha.

I'd be all for that.

Was there any confirmation of base sizes anywhere? It would be disappointing if they went 25mm/50mm instead of 20mm/40mm.

 Da Boss wrote:
Was there any confirmation of base sizes anywhere? It would be disappointing if they went 25mm/50mm instead of 20mm/40mm.

the Dwarf King Hold are 25mm square tiles, and Dungeon Saga use same tiles & compatible tiles with DKH according ronnie

Short goal, free character, new rules, new equipment and ability cards for her... not bad.

Mantic mentioned in the comments that double sided tiles will be something that will come up as an eventual stretch goal.

I'd love to see some outdoor terrain to fight the orcs in, or maybe some caves with lava flows and cave ins to fight the abyssals (dwarfs and maybe even the demon ones while we're at it).

Box continues to shape up nicely.

That's very disappointing then. It would have been easy to keep the base sizes compatible with KoW, I don't see the point in making them bigger. Ah well. Perhaps the overall sculpts are bigger too.

Good to see the switch to small increments between goals.

Really like the new stretch goal. The fact that its only 10k is even better. Mantic... alright!

 Da Boss wrote:
That's very disappointing then. It would have been easy to keep the base sizes compatible with KoW, I don't see the point in making them bigger. Ah well. Perhaps the overall sculpts are bigger too.

maybe the bases are replaceable to KoW base

I'd like clarity on that, but it is a fairly minor issue I suppose. I asked a question in the KS comments, but they move so fast I'm not sure I'll be able to find the answer if it even gets answered!

 Da Boss wrote:
I'd like clarity on that, but it is a fairly minor issue I suppose. I asked a question in the KS comments, but they move so fast I'm not sure I'll be able to find the answer if it even gets answered!

looking at this pictures of heros without base, it seems that the bases could be remplaceable bases

 Da Boss wrote:
I'd like clarity on that, but it is a fairly minor issue I suppose. I asked a question in the KS comments, but they move so fast I'm not sure I'll be able to find the answer if it even gets answered!

I'm 99% sure I read that the dungeon textured bases are separate pieces. I'm going to bet that the $15 add on pack is gonna be fairly popular with undead KoW players.

I thought the textured bases are already on the models in the boxed game, but they are selling additional ones for KOW models if you want to base your existing models that way.

Unfortunately Guru those are all sculpts and prototypes. I think the integral dungeon cobblestone bases are damn cool. But I would prefer if everything matched KoW with the round plug bases that slot into 20mm and 25mm square bases.

There has been talk of a cobblestone base topper from Mantic to convert KoW type bases but that would require you using a hobby saw to remove the miniature from its moulded on plug base, then glueing it to the cobblestone base topper.

 squall018 wrote:
I thought the textured bases are already on the models in the boxed game, but they are selling additional ones for KOW models if you want to base your existing models that way.

What, oh that sucks. I thought the figures plugged into the base, like a peg into a hole.

 judgedoug wrote:

 squall018 wrote:
I thought the textured bases are already on the models in the boxed game, but they are selling additional ones for KOW models if you want to base your existing models that way.

What, oh that sucks. I thought the figures plugged into the base, like a peg into a hole.

It might well they haven't said for certain how they go together and I can't see the 50mmx50mm bases and the troll all being one piece that's not practical for a mold plus Mortibris has that skeleton raising out of the base which is probably a plug in piece. What we do know is that they will be attached to the base in the box whether it's all one piece or glued in the factory. jake mentioned in the interview last night that several of the MA minis are more than 1 part but the factory assembles and glues them and the DS figures will be similar. All that said I wonder why they can't do a load of the bases separately rather than this resin topper idea.

guru wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
That's very disappointing then. It would have been easy to keep the base sizes compatible with KoW, I don't see the point in making them bigger. Ah well. Perhaps the overall sculpts are bigger too.

maybe the bases are replaceable to KoW base

These are cast on, right?

 DaveC wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 squall018 wrote:
I thought the textured bases are already on the models in the boxed game, but they are selling additional ones for KOW models if you want to base your existing models that way.

What, oh that sucks. I thought the figures plugged into the base, like a peg into a hole.

It might well they haven't said for certain how they go together and I can't see the 50mmx50mm bases and the troll all being one piece that's not practical for a mold plus Mortibris has that skeleton raising out of the base which is probably a plug in piece. What we do know is that they will be attached to the base in the box whether it's all one piece or glued in the factory. jake mentioned in the interview last night that several of the MA minis are more than 1 part but the factory assembles and glues them and the DS figures will be similar. All that said I wonder why they can't do a load of the bases separately rather than this resin topper idea.

the marts attack miniature are similar to zombicide miniature

the marts attack I think the arms are multipart, but the base and body are all one



Mantic would have to clarify this point on Dungeon saga

Sooooooooo, these models don't have integral cobblestone bases? Can they please stop showing them as having them then?



When I see this... with colored plastic models, on cobblestone bases without that little circle in the middle, why should I assume that they will come with mantic-style base inset circles and plain bases? And if that was the case, then why are the bases the same color of the model if the bases would clearly be black if these were regular mantic-style?

Can someone confirm what is going on? They have portrayed these as integrated cobblestone bases from day 1. That sucks if they are not.

It has already been stated by Mantic that the cobblestone dungeon bases are integral. I am trying to find where it was said.

And the arms on the Mars Attacks figures do not need to be glued on. The only assembly is the clear helmets onto the Martians.

For the 25mm bases absolutely I can see them being integral but not for the 50mm bases I suspect they will be separate with a small plug under the foot that fits a small hole in the base so all hidden when glued (not the current disc inserts). The troll (or large mini) will be glued to it's base in the factory

"The Dungeon Saga miniatures are made in multiple pieces, but provided fully assembled (unless stated otherwise), and made from highly detailed coloured plastic."

 tgmoore wrote:
It has already been stated by Mantic that the cobblestone dungeon bases are integral. I am trying to find where it was said.

I looked as well. Pretty sure its not it the updates. I think they just stated it in the comments. They DID state it though. Now, they might not be tooled that way, but they will be that way in the box. I would assume that means glued at the factory if they are not molded that way.

Myles Hunt 2 days ago
Not sure if it's already been mentioned but is there any chance the cobblestone bases will be sold separately? For use with other miniatures you add in yourself

Creator Mantic Games 2 days ago
@ Myles - we're putting something together for this actually. A pack of resin Cobblestone base toppers that can be glued to blank plastic bases. A little modelling skill will be needed to remove the 15mm integrated circular disks from the Kings of War models, but should look great when you're done!

 tgmoore wrote:
Myles Hunt 2 days ago
Not sure if it's already been mentioned but is there any chance the cobblestone bases will be sold separately? For use with other miniatures you add in yourself

Creator Mantic Games 2 days ago
@ Myles - we're putting something together for this actually. A pack of resin Cobblestone base toppers that can be glued to blank plastic bases. A little modelling skill will be needed to remove the 15mm integrated circular disks from the Kings of War models, but should look great when you're done!

Ugh.

I wish they'd just do away with the 15mm aggravating integrated base.

 Alpharius wrote:

 tgmoore wrote:
Myles Hunt 2 days ago
Not sure if it's already been mentioned but is there any chance the cobblestone bases will be sold separately? For use with other miniatures you add in yourself

Creator Mantic Games 2 days ago
@ Myles - we're putting something together for this actually. A pack of resin Cobblestone base toppers that can be glued to blank plastic bases. A little modelling skill will be needed to remove the 15mm integrated circular disks from the Kings of War models, but should look great when you're done!

Ugh.

I wish they'd just do away with the 15mm aggravating integrated base.

Well they can't retroactively removed the circle bases from pre-existing KoW minis.

So it sounds like 100% the stonework bases are part of the Dungeon Saga minis, period.

The stonework bases are definitely part of the miniatures, though with a fairly soft plastic it wouldn't be difficult to cut them off.

guru wrote:

the Dwarf King Hold are 25mm square tiles, and Dungeon Saga use same tiles & compatible tiles with DKH according ronnie

Wait, what? That is some flimsy construction paper-like material, if they're using the same tiles, value just went down on this set.

I think he means the same sized tiles, one thing they have been adamant about is the quality will be a lot higher on these tiles.

Also Guru may not be writing in his native tongue, so to speak, so there may be the odd error. I am trying to imagine having written all that in Spanish, but I doubt the country could cope with my butchery of the language.

 Alpharius wrote:


I wish they'd just do away with the 15mm aggravating integrated base.

I'd vote no for that on KoW, they're very useful for multibasing models into pre-cut large bases.

 agnosto wrote:

guru wrote:

the Dwarf King Hold are 25mm square tiles, and Dungeon Saga use same tiles & compatible tiles with DKH according ronnie

Wait, what? That is some flimsy construction paper-like material, if they're using the same tiles, value just went down on this set.

I think he means compatible, not the same.

 endtransmission wrote:
In some of the interviews they have talked about much thicker quality tiles, similar in print quality to the limited release Space Hulk or Descent.