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I don't want to double-up on game types, and so have been reluctant to get involved in this one. I've pledged a fair amount (something of a gamble) on Gamezone's Heroquest 25th anniversary edition, but this does seem very nice and I'm not entirely convinced about that other game actually ever arriving!

The hero and undead-type monsters look amazing for this, and liked the sound of Ronnie Renton's description for the game. Also, free P&P to the UK. Descisions, arrghh!

Ouch. Looks like there was some copyright stuff with the chick from Dr. Horrible. They took her out (for now) and gave us two new free heroes. Hopefully they're able to work with the studio to bring her back in. Also, Blaine for the fething win!!

Didn't know the random femwiz was a parody/homage or whatever. The dwarf and dog add more than a second member of an existing class anyway.

Dryuid is cool enough, was hoping for a wider snapshot of the expansion though.

100.00 bucks for all that?

Call me the Dungeon Mastah!!!!

Now they're saying the expansion will rank less than fifty bucks... drat... that will be tempting.

 GrimDork wrote:
Now they're saying the expansion will rank less than fifty bucks... drat... that will be tempting.

Grim, don't bother fighting it. You know you're in.

I didn't know that the female wizard was based on anything so no big loss, though I preferred her to a dog throwing dwarf.

The dogs like it, they're too slow to close otherwise.

Nobody tosses a dwarf... dog...

...erm... :S

How about alternate gender version of the basic heroes?

 Grot 6 wrote:
100.00 bucks for all that?

Call me the Dungeon Mastah!!!!

Saturday Morning cartoon fail. You have posted Mumm-ra arch nemesis of the Thundercats.

This is Dungeon Master.

I wasn't going to call him on it...but I'm glad you did!

In light of recent popular books.... I'm a little hesitant to even search for dungeon master.

I want a stretch goal for a live action intro video like Dragonstrike had!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8LBpMuSTrQ

I'm not sure how to feel about KS's with little to no tiers and basically are just the retail price but you get extras. Yes it is a good deal, but it seems more like a shop with a long wait than investing in a start up.

 Ahtman wrote:
I'm not sure how to feel about KS's with little to no tiers and basically are just the retail price but you get extras. Yes it is a good deal, but it seems more like a shop with a long wait than investing in a start up.

I hadn't quite thought of it like that, but now that you mention it, it does kind of feel like that.

And August 2015 is a long ways away...

decker_cky wrote:
I want a stretch goal for a live action intro video like Dragonstrike had!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8LBpMuSTrQ

You've seen the one for Wildspace right? Wildspace was unfortunately never released :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHGz5r-b1do

I like the driad.. probably one of the first tree man ever that didn't look dumb

I actually prefer that the pledge levels are so simple. They might add one or two really expensive ones for the folks with lots of disposable income who want to name a character or have themselves as a hero, etc.

But Mars Attacks had *30* pledge levels. That one was just silly complicated. I guess they want to try the other extreme now?

Seems the new big greenskin expansion will be mostly add on. From their new update:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/dungeon-saga-the-dwarf-kings-quest/posts

...Kapoka heralds in the first expansion for the game, which has a working title of Dungeon Saga: The Warlord of Galahir. It will see new monsters, new Dungeon tiles, new scenarios, cards, counters and more, in a low-cost Optional Add-on that allows you to go beyond the Undead and play through an all-new adventure with your heroes!

However, we’re not done with The Dwarf King’s Quest boxed game yet and as the funding becomes available, there are some components that we would love to upgrade to plastic. There is also some new stuff that could become possible to add-in....

pancakeonions wrote:
I actually prefer that the pledge levels are so simple.

I'm not sure I would count a only having a $1 reach-around and MSRP as 'levels'; there would need to be more than "get or no get" options for there to actually constitute having levels I think. I agree that it can get to complicated, but this is to far the other way. In the end they are just using Kickstarter as more of a pre-order venue than as a small start up capitol raiser. It might be a fine distinction but, I think, an important one. As I said it is a good deal and I begrudge no one for pledging, but it also seems to circumvent the spirit of KS, making it more of a store front that a place for unknowns to get their projects out there.

I am surprised there aren't a couple of 'design your own adventurer' high level pledges.

Looking forward to the 'Moonkin' form for the Druid!

They seemed to work for dreadball, did we ever hear about anything for the similar slots in deadzone or mars attacks?

 Ahtman wrote:

pancakeonions wrote:
I actually prefer that the pledge levels are so simple.

I'm not sure I would count a only having a $1 reach-around and MSRP as 'levels'; there would need to be more than "get or no get" options for there to actually constitute having levels I think. I agree that it can get to complicated, but this is to far the other way. In the end they are just using Kickstarter as more of a pre-order venue than as a small start up capitol raiser. It might be a fine distinction but, I think, an important one. As I said it is a good deal and I begrudge no one for pledging, but it also seems to circumvent the spirit of KS, making it more of a store front that a place for unknowns to get their projects out there.

Wait, we went from "This feels like a store" to "This is a store" pretty quickly there. If it feels like it's a pre order, then then that's your thing, but that's a far cry from being one.

After MA, they wanted to keep things very simple for both the warehouse and the pledgers. So they're trying this version out. You get the core box, which gets better with stretch goals providing more funding. It's still Kickstarter; just with less pledge levels.

 sukura636 wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

pancakeonions wrote:
I actually prefer that the pledge levels are so simple.

I'm not sure I would count a only having a $1 reach-around and MSRP as 'levels'; there would need to be more than "get or no get" options for there to actually constitute having levels I think. I agree that it can get to complicated, but this is to far the other way. In the end they are just using Kickstarter as more of a pre-order venue than as a small start up capitol raiser. It might be a fine distinction but, I think, an important one. As I said it is a good deal and I begrudge no one for pledging, but it also seems to circumvent the spirit of KS, making it more of a store front that a place for unknowns to get their projects out there.

Wait, we went from "This feels like a store" to "This is a store" pretty quickly there. If it feels like it's a pre order, then then that's your thing, but that's a far cry from being one.

After MA, they wanted to keep things very simple for both the warehouse and the pledgers. So they're trying this version out. You get the core box, which gets better with stretch goals providing more funding. It's still Kickstarter; just with less pledge levels.

And there have been a lot of Kickstarters where the sweet spot was so visible that they effectively only had that one pledge level.

The Auld Grump

 Necros wrote:
I like the driad.. probably one of the first tree man ever that didn't look dumb

I actually disagree. Well, somewhat. I think it looks good, but that the robe is redundant.

Ahtman - oh no, for feth's sake no. Not that old argument again. And in honesty, I don't see how having one pledge level makes it any more or less a pre-order than a start-up funding raiser than having eleven pledge levels. It just seems like it's going to be many times easier logistically.

 tgmoore wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
100.00 bucks for all that?

Call me the Dungeon Mastah!!!!

Saturday Morning cartoon fail. You have posted Mumm-ra arch nemesis of the Thundercats.

This is Dungeon Master.

Theres the Master, then theres THE MASTAH!!! In case you didn't notice, the dungeon in question is full of Undead...

Mumm-ra more then likely ate that little guy. It was between Mumm or Skeletor, BTW.

But for a hundred bucks for all that stuff, if you want, you can keep using that one, I'll roll with the ever living.


Roll those 20's!!!


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 GrimDork wrote:
They seemed to work for dreadball, did we ever hear about anything for the similar slots in deadzone or mars attacks?

It was yes to both. Sweet spot was at a 150 or so.

150 for dreadball.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/dreadball-the-futuristic-sports-game

150 for Mars Attacks.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/mars-attacks-the-miniatures-game?ref=nav_search

Oh no I'm sorry, I was trying to ask about the special pledge levels for getting your own merc or martian/human hero created. I saw the dreadball ones got realized, but I've never heard about the other two kickstarters.

Heh, I can't believe they tried to do a homage figure of Felecia Day/Codex without contacting her first for the OK. Her, Will Wheaton, etc are at our level of the radar and involved in the tabletop hobby.

Riquende wrote:I am surprised there aren't a couple of 'design your own adventurer' high level pledges.

GrimDork wrote:They seemed to work for dreadball, did we ever hear about anything for the similar slots in deadzone or mars attacks?

Speaking from experience, they can be troublesome/stressful to do; but they can also produce some fantastic results.


If you're sitting on a pile of money, and want a custom Fantasy Adventurer designed by Heath Foley (and don't mind a scale difference), shoot me a PM. I had a backer's payment fail for the Create-a-Character of the previous Endless: Fantasy Tactics KS.

 Azazelx wrote:
Heh, I can't believe they tried to do a homage figure of Felecia Day/Codex without contacting her first for the OK. Her, Will Wheaton, etc are at our level of the radar and involved in the tabletop hobby.

I know, right?

Personally, you would have thought that Ronny would have been on the phone with them in the space of five minutes of discussing the concept. Would have been better all around, especially in light of her Dragon Age work AND her being in on the Tabletop game discussion online. I found it a little in bad taste by Mantic to not have done a little discussions first. Might have been a true riot to have the whole Guild crew in miniature, then we could have gone on to do a side party of the Axis of Evil.

In hindsight, I still wouldn't mind seeing some of that D and D cartoon party on in miniature. I completely forgot about it until our esteemed colleague posted the Real Dungeon Master up there.

I'd maybe even throw out some extra coin for a make your own party/ character team.