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RIP, He will be sorely missed.

My wife Aura did this earlier.. her own tribute to him.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
My wife Aura did this earlier.. her own tribute to him.

Surely provoking so many feels is against forum rules?

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
My wife Aura did this earlier.. her own tribute to him.

The feels right here

 Avatar 720 wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
My wife Aura did this earlier.. her own tribute to him.

Spoiler:

Surely provoking so many feels is against forum rules?

It wouldn't be right to Bane anyone under these circumstances.


Sad news.

It's especially sad to see people expressing their repugnant views on suicide in this thread.

I'm sorry for dragging the thread off topic with my post. Suicide is a touchy topic.

He seemed like a nice guy from interviews and so on that I've seen with him. It's a shame that he couldn't beat depression.

 kronk wrote:
The only celebration here is what he did for other people. He was an active fund raiser for local (SF area) arts, he did a lot for the homeless, and he made tons of people laugh.

Not to mention he did a ton of USO stuff, as well as in the mid 2000s, some charity bike riding with the now "infamous" Lance Armstrong.

Totally sucks. It's sad for his family that he chose suicide.

I was talking earlier about seeing him on stage in his days before Mork and Mindy.
He was opening for some singer whose name escapes me, but I remember Robin vividly dancing around the stage singing "Rawhide" at the top of his lungs and mocking the campus cafeteria.
It got to the point where he had to stop for a bit because people were laughing so hard he couldn't be heard.

 Deadshot wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
My wife Aura did this earlier.. her own tribute to him.

The feels right here

I'm man enough to shed a few tears... @Morathi's Darkest Sin: Thank your wife for me, this is fantastic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2723742/Robin-Williams-daughter-forced-Twitter-internet-trolls-post-fake-photograph-claiming-dead-father.html

Robin Williams' daughter has been forced off Twitter after internet trolls posted a fake photograph claiming it was her dead father.
Zelda Williams, 25, made an appeal to her 169,000 followers to report two users on Twitter who sent the image to her account.

.. as you do

nkelsch wrote:

Lots of people don't 'die' of cancer... they die of complications of the chemo.

You have no idea what you are talking about, either with cancer or mental health. Please please please go out and educate your self on both cancer and depression before talking any more about either. You are the reason both illnesses are so stigmatized.

I have known many strong people I know battle with depression, mental health problems and addiction. Attitudes like yours are toxic, both poisoning others so people do not seek help for fear of being seen as weak, and making them feel they have failed when they read attitudes like that. People do seek help every day for depression and addiction, but even with the best help it does not always work, any more than cancer treatments always work.

Sorry this is off topic, but knowing people with metal health problems and addictions I feel that every single person who points out the stupidity of attitudes like nkelsch's helps fight the ignorance and pain.

 reds8n wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2723742/Robin-Williams-daughter-forced-Twitter-internet-trolls-post-fake-photograph-claiming-dead-father.html

Robin Williams' daughter has been forced off Twitter after internet trolls posted a fake photograph claiming it was her dead father.
Zelda Williams, 25, made an appeal to her 169,000 followers to report two users on Twitter who sent the image to her account.

.. as you do

Stay classy, social media.

Hopefully these people's identities get revealed and they receive the gakstorm they deserve.

 Steve steveson wrote:

nkelsch wrote:

Lots of people don't 'die' of cancer... they die of complications of the chemo.

You have no idea what you are talking about, either with cancer or mental health. Please please please go out and educate your self on both cancer and depression before talking any more about either. You are the reason both illnesses are so stigmatized.

How is cancer stigmatized?

 Hordini wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

nkelsch wrote:

Lots of people don't 'die' of cancer... they die of complications of the chemo.

You have no idea what you are talking about, either with cancer or mental health. Please please please go out and educate your self on both cancer and depression before talking any more about either. You are the reason both illnesses are so stigmatized.

How is cancer stigmatized?

Cancer is still treated as taboo. You don't talk about it, you don't mention it. People fear getting tested and see it as a death senescent. Many people find that they are either treated as being "unclean", inappropriately disabled, weak, unable to make choices about there treatment or blamed for having it, especially with cancers that sometimes have a lifestyle link, such as skin, lung and bowel cancer.

http://www.livestrong.org/pdfs/3-0/LSGlobalResearchReport

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7454/1470

http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/content/23/suppl_3/66.full

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

nkelsch wrote:

Lots of people don't 'die' of cancer... they die of complications of the chemo.

You have no idea what you are talking about, either with cancer or mental health. Please please please go out and educate your self on both cancer and depression before talking any more about either. You are the reason both illnesses are so stigmatized.

How is cancer stigmatized?

Cancer is still treated as taboo. You don't talk about it, you don't mention it. People fear getting tested and see it as a death senescent. Many people find that they are either treated as being "unclean", inappropriately disabled, weak, unable to make choices about there treatment or blamed for having it, especially with cancers that sometimes have a lifestyle link, such as skin, lung and bowel cancer.

http://www.livestrong.org/pdfs/3-0/LSGlobalResearchReport

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7454/1470

http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/content/23/suppl_3/66.full

I wonder if that's a more common attitude in the UK. Multiple close friends and family of mine have had cancer (some survived it, some died from it) and I have literally never experienced what you are talking about.

 Hordini wrote:

I wonder if that's a more common attitude in the UK. Multiple close friends and family of mine have had cancer (some survived it, some died from it) and I have literally never experienced what you are talking about.

No idea. I have only know a few people with cancer, and of the people close enough to actually talk to them about it one was lung and two were throat, both seen as "smoking diseases", even though only one was a smoker, so I know I don't have much experience to draw on, just what I have seen and heard in the media. Mostly it is down to a fear that cancer is a death sentence and treatment is not about recovery, but staving of the inevitable, neither of which are true any more.

As someone who battles with depression as well, it is a shame that someone with as many resources as he had could not find the right support group/friends/family to help him through it.

Depression is scary when it is treated, it is terrorizing when you have it and cant find the solution.

This might be one of the best pictures I have seen regarding mental health awareness:

 d-usa wrote:
This might be one of the best pictures I have seen regarding mental health awareness:

I find it amazing (in that weird way scary things can be amazing) that a man with such a marvelous sense of humor and who so often seemed so jovial could be so sad on the inside. I've never followed him outside of film so most of this stuff about his long battle with depression is new to me. Its a bizarre thing to learn about, and reinforces all the things I've learned about how hard it is for common people to rectify themselves with mental illness. Robin Williams strikes me as the last man on earth who would battle depression, but he did.

He's apparently getting a NPC in World of Warcraft.

Anytime a person becomes so overwhelmed with depression they take their own life it is a true tragedy.

I was very sad to hear the news that he had lost his fight to an isidious illness.

By all accounts a talented man, loving husband, devoted father and a great loss in his passing.

The world could use more like him.

Rest In Peace.

 Hordini wrote:

I wonder if that's a more common attitude in the UK. Multiple close friends and family of mine have had cancer (some survived it, some died from it) and I have literally never experienced what you are talking about.

the ONLY kind of cancer I've ever come across in the US that is remotely stigmatized by society in any way is Lung cancer, as Steve pointed out, it's still seen as a "smoker's" disease

Cervical Cancer is somewhat stigmitized by the religious right as a "slut disease".

We don't tend to stigmatize cancer that much in the US so I find that a bit odd. I've known a lot of people with cancer as well as cancer survivors and I don't recall anyone having a poor attitude toward them. Must be a cultural thing.



Also, this is why we can't have nice things.

Summary: People trolling/harassing Williams' kids on social media

It sucks that people are doing that, but at least she has the good sense to not engage the trolls, for her own sake.

I think you guys are looking at it the wrong way, we don't stigmatize having the disease (cancer, depression) in the United States necessarily, but we do see stigma and criticism and against how people react to that. Telling people with depression to just "get over it" and the like is terribly common (been there, heard that) and cancer patients cop a surprising amount of flak if they don't put on some bs smile or brave tragic hero figure type thing.

 LordofHats wrote:

I find it amazing (in that weird way scary things can be amazing) that a man with such a marvelous sense of humor and who so often seemed so jovial could be so sad on the inside. I've never followed him outside of film so most of this stuff about his long battle with depression is new to me. Its a bizarre thing to learn about, and reinforces all the things I've learned about how hard it is for common people to rectify themselves with mental illness. Robin Williams strikes me as the last man on earth who would battle depression, but he did.

As someone who has dealt with depression for nearly his entire life, you learn to put on masks. The fact of the matter is that most people don't want to be around someone who is outwardly depressed, and that isolation only makes the depression worse.

 dogma wrote:

As someone who has dealt with depression for nearly his entire life, you learn to put on masks. The fact of the matter is that most people don't want to be around someone who is outwardly depressed, and that isolation only makes the depression worse.

A friend of mine (who suffers from depression) sent me this as a kind of "thank you" because I never rejected her when she was feeling really bad and didn't take offense when she would cancel things at the last moment because she couldn't face the world:



Just a shame she didn't feel she could pass it to her friends who did reject her. I did post it on facebook though, where many of them could see it (With her permission as long as I didn't attribute it to her in any way).

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I think you guys are looking at it the wrong way, we don't stigmatize having the disease (cancer, depression) in the United States necessarily, but we do see stigma and criticism and against how people react to that. Telling people with depression to just "get over it" and the like is terribly common (been there, heard that) and cancer patients cop a surprising amount of flak if they don't put on some bs smile or brave tragic hero figure type thing.

Moreover, cancer often leads to depression and severe anxiety because you have cancer and are facing, minimally, a series of painful treatments. Its like how people avoid you when you're sick turned up to 11.