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I know, but I had no argument because it just makes no sense.
But I passed off my hall again, yup. I'm so making friends here.

One thing the situation with the Bosnians prove is that a person should drive right through the morons in the road and not stop.

 Frazzled wrote:
Wait, WHAT???
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/12/black-activist-ferguson-supporter-issues-death-threat-to-bosnian-immigrants-video/#!

That speech reminded me of when I worked in the ER--and we had a mental health evaluation due on a patient. You'd go in to draw blood "Sir, I'm here to draw your blood..." and receive a 15 minute dissertation on why President Nixon let the aliens murder Native Americans. Just a true flight of thoughts there.

Hopefully Peter, Paul and Mary and Stevie Wonder don't sue her for plagiarism...as I heard at least 3 different direct song lyrics in there .

I liked the reverb she added to the speech, that definitely added a lot of gravitas to it.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

I'm not sure, but it always seems girls get the maddestime over race stuff.

Eldargal raged so hard on the BoLS ferguson thread they locked it. Of course, she tends to chalk up everything she doesn't like to racism and/or sexism anyways...

 DarkLink wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

I'm not sure, but it always seems girls get the maddestime over race stuff.

Eldargal raged so hard on the BoLS ferguson thread they locked it. Of course, she tends to chalk up everything she doesn't like to racism and/or sexism anyways...

Why do you think I left that forum, She was annoying.

 whembly wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, I thought I would never run into it irl. But today I got told my opinion on Mike brown cannot matter because I'm white.
I literally got told that

I'm not being facetious here... that was totally racist.

Whembly you just need to check your privilege.

 Frazzled wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Wow, I thought I would never run into it irl. But today I got told my opinion on Mike brown cannot matter because I'm white.
I literally got told that

I'm not being facetious here... that was totally racist.

Whembly you just need to check your privilege.

Nah... I'm good.

Oh no, someone was racist towards you guys? Where did they shoot you?

 Da Boss wrote:
Oh no, someone was racist towards you guys? Where did they shoot you?

Does being in a drive by count?

Was the drive by conducted by the Police? Damn those po pos!

 Da Boss wrote:
Was the drive by conducted by the Police? Damn those po pos!

No they just hovered over my apartment with a helicopter shining a light in about once a month, spiralling over the complex.

They did roust us more than once. Nothing says loving like being spread eagled on pavement.

Your relationship with Mrs. Frazzled is not a topic for these fora!

 Da Boss wrote:
Oh no, someone was racist towards you guys? Where did they shoot you?

The point is that this was a way to say, because I'm white, I can't have a meaningful opinion on the Mike Brown case.

 Da Boss wrote:
Your relationship with Mrs. Frazzled is not a topic for these fora!

Well played sir. Well played.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Your relationship with Mrs. Frazzled is not a topic for these fora!

Well played sir. Well played.

I had to give an Exalt

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Oh no, someone was racist towards you guys? Where did they shoot you?

The point is that this was a way to say, because I'm white, I can't have a meaningful opinion on the Mike Brown case.

Why would you lend any weight whatsoever to the opinion of someone so embarrassingly ignorant?

To those who thinks there's a huge racial divide... read this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/
and
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/17/5-insights-on-the-racial-tolerance-and-ethnicity-maps-from-an-ethnic-conflict-professor/

I have to thoughts:

1) while I abhor comparing metrics between countries... this is sorta eye popping. Take notice to the last Updated section.

2) that second link doesn't exactly refute the analysis in the first story, but it explains why comparing nations is extremely problematic.

 whembly wrote:
To those who thinks there's a huge racial divide... read this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/
and
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/17/5-insights-on-the-racial-tolerance-and-ethnicity-maps-from-an-ethnic-conflict-professor/

I have to thoughts:

1) while I abhor comparing metrics between countries... this is sorta eye popping. Take notice to the last Updated section.

2) that second link doesn't exactly refute the analysis in the first story, but it explains why comparing nations is extremely problematic.

I think this would be more telling if you could get a list of which races were least desired in these countries as well.

Believe those blacks who been apprehended attacking the Bosnians are being charged with hate Crimes

 Jihadin wrote:
Believe those blacks who been apprehended attacking the Bosnians are being charged with hate Crimes

As they should be, if some of the reports are true.

I don't like 'hate crimes'. The acts are already illegal. 'Hate' really shouldn't be a crime.

 Jihadin wrote:
Believe those blacks who been apprehended attacking the Bosnians are being charged with hate Crimes

Do you have a cite for that?

 Frazzled wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Believe those blacks who been apprehended attacking the Bosnians are being charged with hate Crimes

Do you have a cite for that?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/09/fbi-called-to-investigate-whether-attack-on-bosnian-woman-hate-crime/

cool we'll see if they do though. I bet good money thats a no.

 CptJake wrote:
I don't like 'hate crimes'. The acts are already illegal. 'Hate' really shouldn't be a crime.

Much like killing a police officer carries a higher penalty than killing an ordinary person, hate crimes carry a higher penalty. The reason is because they are targetting more than just the person directly affected. They are designed to intimidate groups of people. They are attacks on a group rather than just an individual.

So is your position that the attack on the Bosnian was designed to intimidate Bosnians, females, white folks, white females, female Bosnians, or what?

How would a prosecutor ever really prove the attack was designed with that intimidation in mind?

Again, I don't think 'hate' should be a crime.

 CptJake wrote:
So is your position that the attack on the Bosnian was designed to intimidate Bosnians, females, white folks, white females, female Bosnians, or what?

How would a prosecutor ever really prove the attack was designed with that intimidation in mind?

Again, I don't think 'hate' should be a crime.

Depends on how "good" the prosecutor is, and who he/she gets as "eyewitness" accounts.

I recall reading in the hammer attack that the group of people who were "supporting" the 4 dudes who killed the bosnian guy were shouting/chanting "kill the whites" or something similar.


I rather agree with you that "hate" shouldn't be a crime, but until we are well and truly beyond a racial society, it seems to be a necessary class of crime to have. But, if we have this classification of crime, it NEEDS to cut both ways.

Forgot that stupid Twitter(?) statement some idiot posted advocating harm towards the Bosnians

Personally, I think it is worse targetting someone for who they are rather than what they did.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
So is your position that the attack on the Bosnian was designed to intimidate Bosnians, females, white folks, white females, female Bosnians, or what?

How would a prosecutor ever really prove the attack was designed with that intimidation in mind?

Again, I don't think 'hate' should be a crime.

Depends on how "good" the prosecutor is, and who he/she gets as "eyewitness" accounts.

I recall reading in the hammer attack that the group of people who were "supporting" the 4 dudes who killed the bosnian guy were shouting/chanting "kill the whites" or something similar.


I rather agree with you that "hate" shouldn't be a crime, but until we are well and truly beyond a racial society, it seems to be a necessary class of crime to have. But, if we have this classification of crime, it NEEDS to cut both ways.

I don't think anybody is actually claiming that "hate" should be a crime.
Hate is a feeling, and we don't actually promote the concept of thought-crime (unless you are a member of certain particular religious beliefs).

It is when you commit crimes that are motivated or informed by hate, that we use the term "hate-crime". And we consider such crimes particular odious for the reasons that skyth brought up.