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Its a pretty sweet model, but its not $105 cool.

 Arthas367 wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
I'm interested to see all the special character in the book. We know of:

-Nagash
- Arkhan
- Mannfred
- Neferata
- Krell (WD battle report)
- Valten
- Krom

And we can safely assume:
- Archeon

Who else??

I haven't heard a thing about Archaon being in the book, and the fact their is going to be multiple end time books, lead me to believe he will be in another one of the series' s books, more than likely a chaos united one

More books!? That could potentially lead to a lot more massive figures! I'd love to see Archaon on some epically sized chaos monstrosity. Karl Franz with a new pet, or some HUGE contraption. Skaven, orcs, dwarves all getting cool new centerpiece models! That would be awesome!

I kind of like that better than just adding a few items to every army each 5+ years (10+ for some). I also love story lines where two massive evil powers are at war. Good vs evil just gets boring sometimes.

 skullking wrote:

 Arthas367 wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
I'm interested to see all the special character in the book. We know of:

-Nagash
- Arkhan
- Mannfred
- Neferata
- Krell (WD battle report)
- Valten
- Krom

And we can safely assume:
- Archeon

Who else??

I haven't heard a thing about Archaon being in the book, and the fact their is going to be multiple end time books, lead me to believe he will be in another one of the series' s books, more than likely a chaos united one

More books!? That could potentially lead to a lot more massive figures! I'd love to see Archaon on some epically sized chaos monstrosity. Karl Franz with a new pet, or some HUGE contraption. Skaven, orcs, dwarves all getting cool new centerpiece models! That would be awesome!

I kind of like that better than just adding a few items to every army each 5+ years (10+ for some). I also love story lines where two massive evil powers are at war. Good vs evil just gets boring sometimes.

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Karl Franz on his dragon, perhaps?

I can't really say I know a lot of history about Nagash but he looks too big IMHO and for £65 he's a bit steep I think I'll stick to my Nids and Skaven.

I'm not sure if it has been discussed or not, and I don't have the patience to scroll through almost 30 pages to find out:

Does the WFB community think that the 'End Times' tagline might be an allusion to this being the last edition of WFB?

Well it looks like Nagash hates being bored, and so always brings along something to read.

 puma713 wrote:
I'm not sure if it has been discussed or not, and I don't have the patience to scroll through almost 30 pages to find out:

Does the WFB community think that the 'End Times' tagline might be an allusion to this being the last edition of WFB?

No.

And it wouldn't be a problem otherwise, as this edition is solid.

 puma713 wrote:
I'm not sure if it has been discussed or not, and I don't have the patience to scroll through almost 30 pages to find out:

Does the WFB community think that the 'End Times' tagline might be an allusion to this being the last edition of WFB?

People have joked about it, and the rumourmonger who predicted the Nagash book two months before anyone else thought it might be, but the general feeling seems to be "no".

 Restless Zeal wrote:
I can't really say I know a lot of history about Nagash but he looks too big IMHO and for £65 he's a bit steep I think I'll stick to my Nids and Skaven.

Plays Fantasy. Doesn't know Nagash. Do people ever care about lore?

^^ that being said (in response to Alex's statement) does seem to be an actual advancement of the timeline, rather than a SoC dream sequence.



Also, for you Lizzie players out there, what is the significance of Lord Mazdamundi waking up? Is that unusual? 'Cause it mentions that happening in white dwarf.

 godswildcard wrote:
^^ that being said (in response to Alex's statement) does seem to be an actual advancement of the timeline, rather than a SoC dream sequence.



Also, for you Lizzie players out there, what is the significance of Lord Mazdamundi waking up? Is that unusual? 'Cause it mentions that happening in white dwarf.

That's...

Well, imagine Merlin. Now imagine him as a frog that can blow up continents.

So yeah, not very significant at all...

 godswildcard wrote:
^^ that being said (in response to Alex's statement) does seem to be an actual advancement of the timeline, rather than a SoC dream sequence.



Also, for you Lizzie players out there, what is the significance of Lord Mazdamundi waking up? Is that unusual? 'Cause it mentions that happening in white dwarf.

Yes. He's the oldest and most powerful second generation Slann. That makes him the oldest living Slann. He's roughly Nagash-tier in terms of power.

Edit: Found his rules posted on1d4chan.

He automatically knows Ryze - The Grave Call and generates 8 other spells from the schools he knows. s8 6 attacks with d3 multiple wounds He can also use up to 4 stored power dice as additional attacks with HKB rule.

 skullking wrote:

 Arthas367 wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
I'm interested to see all the special character in the book. We know of:

-Nagash
- Arkhan
- Mannfred
- Neferata
- Krell (WD battle report)
- Valten
- Krom

And we can safely assume:
- Archeon

Who else??

I haven't heard a thing about Archaon being in the book, and the fact their is going to be multiple end time books, lead me to believe he will be in another one of the series' s books, more than likely a chaos united one

More books!? That could potentially lead to a lot more massive figures! I'd love to see Archaon on some epically sized chaos monstrosity. Karl Franz with a new pet, or some HUGE contraption. Skaven, orcs, dwarves all getting cool new centerpiece models! That would be awesome!

I kind of like that better than just adding a few items to every army each 5+ years (10+ for some). I also love story lines where two massive evil powers are at war. Good vs evil just gets boring sometimes.

I so hope there is going to be a with Deamons, WoC and Beastmen as an unified Chaos army. Would be awesome! And then Archaeon and Nagash can have a battle over who gets to rule the world

 AlexHolker wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
I'm not sure if it has been discussed or not, and I don't have the patience to scroll through almost 30 pages to find out:

Does the WFB community think that the 'End Times' tagline might be an allusion to this being the last edition of WFB?

People have joked about it, and the rumourmonger who predicted the Nagash book two months before anyone else thought it might be, but the general feeling seems to be "no".

That rumor makes a lot of sense. I guess we'll see.

Mazdamundi is also the Slaan who rides to battle on the back of a stegadon (which has always been a totally awesome concept), so he could make a pretty awesome plastic kit.

Its apparently going to mess up the Warhammer world big time
like, continents shifting, realms getting destroyed, new alliances
Rumor is the old army books system will go - we may see combined Chaos and Undead again for example

Chad Warden wrote:
Its apparently going to mess up the Warhammer world big time
like, continents shifting, realms getting destroyed, new alliances
Rumor is the old army books system will go - we may see combined Chaos and Undead again for example

I could see that train of thought... WHFB sales are down? Let's shake everything up and make it a completely new game; everyone will have to buy everything all over again!

WayneTheGame wrote:

Chad Warden wrote:
Its apparently going to mess up the Warhammer world big time
like, continents shifting, realms getting destroyed, new alliances
Rumor is the old army books system will go - we may see combined Chaos and Undead again for example

I could see that train of thought... WHFB sales are down? Let's shake everything up and make it a completely new game; everyone will have to buy everything all over again!

It's not like you won't have to buy everything again with their current staggered release system anyway. Completely rebooting the system is something I've never really been opposed to. I'd much rather have the system rebooted than have to spend another $50 on a new army book + $75 on a new rulebook which amounts to nothing more than a few tweaks to the ones I had previously.

Though 40k needs a reboot more than WHFB IMO.

Well with half the range going to direct only it stands to reason that GW will ram books together.

I cant open that free extract for the rise of nagash on black library but reading what it says on natfka, god damn things are going to get EPIC!

I wonder who is gonna be the ones left standing.

Read the preview from Black Library. Some stuff revealed and some races might get punched in the nuts, looking at you Wood Elves.

Given GW's experiments with allies, I have this dreadful feeling we'll see Forces of Order and Forces of Chaos mashups if they ever decide to do away with the current system.

Empire State Troops led by a Slann, supported by some Treemen vs Skavenslaves with a Chaos Lord and some DE Witches.

Sounds awesome, right?

Right?

There was a rumor some months ago about Wood Elves, Bretonnia and Tomb Kings going away. The fluff bits seem to lean towards that.

Interesting to see what exactly they do, it seems like they're going to do a near complete devastation of the Old World, but the question is going to be what comes after it?

Would they do away with an army that just got an updated army book and new models this year?

I wish he wasn't floating. I don't like it on small models like wardancers, and I like it even less on large ones.

I'm not an undead kinda guy, but my VC and TK friends can't get past that price.

 Ghaz wrote:
Would they do away with an army that just got an updated army book and new models this year?

Yes.

Following the CHS case, GW management has been in a tailspin trying to figure out how to make everything into an unassailable wall. The more generic the army - the more likely it is to get axed. Haven't bothered to press for details, but that is where they have been saying they are going.

As a result, there are more silly changes coming to 40K and although we hadn't talked about it (WFB hasn't had a pulse anywhere I have been for 10 years now) I would not be surprised if they tried to move WFB away from the generic fantasy that it is into something that is completely different from what it is now (though, to be honest - there really isn't much new ground for fantasy settings...).

Oh snap!

That Black Library preview has a snippet of Gilles Le Breton taking off the mantle of the Green Knight and reclaiming his throne! There are so many little tidbits of what's to come in the first few pages, it's crazy.

 trexmeyer wrote:

 Restless Zeal wrote:
I can't really say I know a lot of history about Nagash but he looks too big IMHO and for £65 he's a bit steep I think I'll stick to my Nids and Skaven.

Plays Fantasy. Doesn't know Nagash. Do people ever care about lore?

Enough of that garbage.

There's exactly NOWHERE that states you have to read a -ton of lore to play a game.

You just play the game and have a great time.

If you have a question, it shouldn't be too much to ask it without someone looking down their nose at you for doing so.

 nels1031 wrote:
Oh snap!

That Black Library preview has a snippet of Gilles Le Breton taking off the mantle of the Green Knight and reclaiming his throne! There are so many little tidbits of what's to come in the first few pages, it's crazy.

That's insane. Big bad frog man. the uniter of Bretonnia, and of course Nagash himself!


Who else will be making a come back? Anyone got money on Sigmar? How about Aenerion? Is Alcidizzar confirmed dead, or is he MiA? Because I would love a way to make TK NOT auto-Nagash followers.

Wasn't part of the TK fluff that they only had independence because Nagash was no longer around? I'd imagine with his return they'd all fall in line, willingly or otherwise.