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2015/01/28 20:57:49
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
1* Unit for the IC (which is actually counted as part of the squad below but for Kill points is counted separately)
1 Unit for the Razorback
1 Unit for the squad
I know I said kill points but that was just a simplified statement earlier
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edited for correction
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2015/01/29 00:36:40
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
1 Unit for the IC 1 Unit for the Razorback
1 Unit for the squad
I know I said kill points but that was just a simplified statement earlier
I have never seen it ruled differently than above, in regards to scoring for missions/objectives.
Traditionally, an Independent Character joined to a unit counts as being part of that unit in all cases except where specified otherwise. 'Kill Points' (or whatever variation you are using of them) have traditionally specified that an IC always counts as being a separate unit for this purpose.
So a transport with an embarked unit inside that contains an IC would be two units (the transport and the unit inside), but if all were destroyed, they'd be worth 3 'Kill Points' (assuming the kill point rule you're using specifies that ICs are always counted as a separate unit).
Grey Templar wrote: I would think it would be 2 units. Because while the IC is attached to a unit he is part of that unit, not a separate unit.
That's of course assuming that units in transports count as being in the location their transport is standing of course.
It would be 2 units - the transport and the unit inside.
IC's count as part of the unit they are in.
Look at it this way. Say you have 2 objectives 12.1" apart. You have a 10-man tactical squad with Captain attached. If you spread them out so that they are in range of both objectives, can you score both objectives? No, because the IC + unit forms only 1 unit.
Note - neither units are scoring if the unit inside is in a zooming flyer transport. The flyer needs to be gliding in order for both the transport and the unit inside to be scoring.
Grey Templar wrote: I would think it would be 2 units. Because while the IC is attached to a unit he is part of that unit, not a separate unit.
That's of course assuming that units in transports count as being in the location their transport is standing of course.
It would be 2 units - the transport and the unit inside.
IC's count as part of the unit they are in.
Look at it this way. Say you have 2 objectives 12.1" apart. You have a 10-man tactical squad with Captain attached. If you spread them out so that they are in range of both objectives, can you score both objectives? No, because the IC + unit forms only 1 unit.
Note - neither units are scoring if the unit inside is in a zooming flyer transport. The flyer needs to be gliding in order for both the transport and the unit inside to be scoring.
although along those lines of thought now that you bring it up, what if you had a unit inside a transport that was large enough to be in range of two objectives (possible with a 7"long transport)
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2015/01/29 12:01:08
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Reecius wrote: Yeah, Vegas is very affordable or limitlessly expensive, depending on your tastes. You can stay 4 to a room (which at our prices makes it damn near nothing), eat cheaply and drink beer you buy at the store and it is mega cheap. Or, you can go to world class restaurants, get girls and go to clubs and spend as much money as you have! It really just depends on you.
The flight over the pond will be the biggest expense, but luckily, Vegas casinos often subsidize them to encourage travel to the city and you can often find incredible deals if you search.
Even if you club , you would be surprised how how much you don't spend after a few days in Vegas if you do it right.
2015/01/29 14:15:05
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Reecius wrote: Yeah, Vegas is very affordable or limitlessly expensive, depending on your tastes. You can stay 4 to a room (which at our prices makes it damn near nothing), eat cheaply and drink beer you buy at the store and it is mega cheap. Or, you can go to world class restaurants, get girls and go to clubs and spend as much money as you have! It really just depends on you.
The flight over the pond will be the biggest expense, but luckily, Vegas casinos often subsidize them to encourage travel to the city and you can often find incredible deals if you search.
Even if you club , you would be surprised how how much you don't spend after a few days in Vegas if you do it right.
Pfft, I'm planning on throwing my first game and then getting blackout drunk and waking up missing a kidney.
0000 - Rest Period - BUT YOU BETTER NOT SPEND FOUR WHOLE HOURS SLEEPING. IF YOU DO YOU ARE NOT ANGRY ENOUGH AND TOMORROW YOU GET THE FIRST CHANCE TO PLAY PIN THE TAU ON THE CARNIFEX.
2015/01/30 00:44:42
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Airfare and Event tickets book for DZC. I'll be coming in Wednesday due to airfare cheapness shenanagins, so if anyone wants to do any DZC gaming on Thursday, let me know!
2015/01/30 02:01:23
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Dave and Simon from the company will be there, which will be awesome to hang out with them. If I weren't so crazy busy at the event, I would totally take you up on that offer.
I have never escaped a vegas club having spent under $100, but you may have some secret Drunk-Fu techniques i do not
@Thread
As for counting units, an IC that joins a unit becomes a part of it and so that is one unit. If the IC breaks off, obviously, you have two.
A unit inside a transport does count. So you would have two.
No, I usually pay 100 and skip the line to get in lol. I was talking about spending less then 250-300 hahahaha. If you only do it 2-3 times a year ,there are way worse ways to spend money then being surrounded by friendly gorgeous wormen. (Why are west coast women so much more friendly when women on the east coast!?)
By the way Calvin Harris will be in town that Friday, so that's going to be a real good time!
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2015/01/30 07:04:32
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
(Why are west coast women so much more friendly when women on the east coast!?)
Might involve the fact we're not freezing our tootises off half the year.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Calvin Harris on Friday? Niiiiice! Might have to go check it out. love his music.
And yeah, F it, if you are going big, go big! haha.
@extremefreak17
We have a bar in the event, sir! Can't bring your own booze in, though. Anywhere else in Vegas, you can drink just walking down the street, it's awesome!
We have a bar in the event, sir! Can't bring your own booze in, though. Anywhere else in Vegas, you can drink just walking down the street, it's awesome!
Okay. Yeah I love Vegas foir that reason. Im glad Los Angeles is so close. What will the drink pricing be like at the event? Is it a cash only bar? (Just want to make sure I bring enough $$ to sustain my alcoholism )
4000 points: Craftworld Mymeara
2015/02/08 04:17:26
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
The refund period has passed (deadline to get money back on tickets was January 20th), but if you find someone that wants to purchase your ticket from you, we can transfer yours to them.
For the hotel, call booking, they'll take care of you.
@extremefreak17
We will be selling drink tickets at the event, you can pay with cash or credit!
Reecius wrote: We will be selling drink tickets at the event, you can pay with cash or credit!
Given this, I state openly to all my opponents:
If you draw me for a match, I propose a Round 3 Stretch; sorta like the 7th Inning Stretch in baseball. We'll be sure to mosey to the bar at that point, wave to acquaintances, harass the guys we see but don't wanna play and either praise Reece & Frankie for how well things are running or gripe at them (depending on mood), and repeat the process, with fresh cold ones, on the way back to Turn 4.
"You can bring any cheesy unit you want. If you lose. Casey taught me that." -Tim S.
"I'm gonna follow Casey; he knows where the beer's at!" -Blackmoor, BAO 2013
Reecius wrote: We will be selling drink tickets at the event, you can pay with cash or credit!
Given this, I state openly to all my opponents:
If you draw me for a match, I propose a Round 3 Stretch; sorta like the 7th Inning Stretch in baseball. We'll be sure to mosey to the bar at that point, wave to acquaintances, harass the guys we see but don't wanna play and either praise Reece & Frankie for how well things are running or gripe at them (depending on mood), and repeat the process, with fresh cold ones, on the way back to Turn 4.
I'm in, but lets do this more than once a game!
4000 points: Craftworld Mymeara
2015/02/08 16:40:58
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Reecius wrote: We will be selling drink tickets at the event, you can pay with cash or credit!
Given this, I state openly to all my opponents:
If you draw me for a match, I propose a Round 3 Stretch; sorta like the 7th Inning Stretch in baseball. We'll be sure to mosey to the bar at that point, wave to acquaintances, harass the guys we see but don't wanna play and either praise Reece & Frankie for how well things are running or gripe at them (depending on mood), and repeat the process, with fresh cold ones, on the way back to Turn 4.
I'm in, but lets do this more than once a game!
John, play me in Beerhammer and together we will forge your dream into reality.
Most notably, a final clarification on infiltrating (unit with cannot deploy with a character without, and a character with cannot deploy with a unit without). Is it safe to assume this will replace the ITC entry now that GW provided clarity? Just curious for list building purposes.
2015/02/10 04:18:11
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Most notably, a final clarification on infiltrating (unit with cannot deploy with a character without, and a character with cannot deploy with a unit without). Is it safe to assume this will replace the ITC entry now that GW provided clarity? Just curious for list building purposes.
Short answer is, of course, yes!
Long answer: Even if the ITC FAQ wasn't updated, the basic tenant on the first page states that GWFAQs take precedence, so the fact that they updated their FAQs means that anything that now contradicts what is in the ITC FAQ would automatically take precedence.
Most notably, a final clarification on infiltrating (unit with cannot deploy with a character without, and a character with cannot deploy with a unit without). Is it safe to assume this will replace the ITC entry now that GW provided clarity? Just curious for list building purposes.
Short answer is, of course, yes!
Long answer: Even if the ITC FAQ wasn't updated, the basic tenant on the first page states that GWFAQs take precedence, so the fact that they updated their FAQs means that anything that now contradicts what is in the ITC FAQ would automatically take precedence.
Got it - thanks much Yak! I wasn't read up enough on the ITC FAQ policy and was wondering if it would fall into a grey zone of faq vs errata and be treated at all like 2++ and Invis.
2015/02/14 06:12:44
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Reecius wrote: We will be selling drink tickets at the event, you can pay with cash or credit!
Given this, I state openly to all my opponents:
If you draw me for a match, I propose a Round 3 Stretch; sorta like the 7th Inning Stretch in baseball. We'll be sure to mosey to the bar at that point, wave to acquaintances, harass the guys we see but don't wanna play and either praise Reece & Frankie for how well things are running or gripe at them (depending on mood), and repeat the process, with fresh cold ones, on the way back to Turn 4.
I'm in, but lets do this more than once a game!
John, play me in Beerhammer and together we will forge your dream into reality.
Do you get to choose?
4000 points: Craftworld Mymeara
2015/02/14 11:18:19
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
(Why are west coast women so much more friendly when women on the east coast!?)
Might involve the fact we're not freezing our tootises off half the year.
Might also be based around not being so scared. I'll never forget some Australian comedians chasing a guy down the street in NY because he took off like a rabbit as soon as they asked him a question.
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
2015/02/14 12:19:41
Subject: Las Vegas Open 2015: Awesome prizes for Warmachine and Hordes, details in first post!
Reecius wrote: We will be selling drink tickets at the event, you can pay with cash or credit!
Given this, I state openly to all my opponents:
If you draw me for a match, I propose a Round 3 Stretch; sorta like the 7th Inning Stretch in baseball. We'll be sure to mosey to the bar at that point, wave to acquaintances, harass the guys we see but don't wanna play and either praise Reece & Frankie for how well things are running or gripe at them (depending on mood), and repeat the process, with fresh cold ones, on the way back to Turn 4.
I'm in, but lets do this more than once a game!
John, play me in Beerhammer and together we will forge your dream into reality.
Do you get to choose?
We can always request. After all, beer hammer is all about fun, not competition. And what's funner than to drink with a friend? I mean besides drinking with an attractive stranger of the opposite sex. Lol!
.....Bay Area Open GT 2013 - Best Tyranids 
.....LVO GT 2014 Team Tournament - Best Generals
4000 points: Craftworld Mymeara 
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and either praise Reece & Frankie for how well things are running or gripe at them (depending on mood), and repeat the process, with fresh cold ones, on the way back to Turn 4.
