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Almost always give all my Sargents Veteran status. Not entirely codex-compliant, and progression goes battle brother -> veteren -> seargent -> 1st company vet seargent -> command.

Also, I usually have the 'Voice of Dawn' on a Tac Sarge (a Power Fist, lorewise, it's a chapter relic of 7th company).

I also almost always take 2x10-man Tac squads (at least). I try to do an Assault and Dev squad as well.

For my Eldar, I only take 1 of each Aspect squad (aside from DAs), and I try to upgrade Serpent to Falcons if they're for a squad with 6 or fewer (don't always have the points though). I also avoid using Wraithnouns and non-Craftworlders (not even Rangers).

Bharing, Rangers are Craftworlders. They are just on the Path of the Outcast, and as such more likely to be found in the company of Corsairs.

Oh, certainly. But odds are, Rangers are long dead/broken by time the Craftworlders are boned hard enough to risk their honored dead. Or at least, I would think so.

Except for Iyanden, of course. They're dicks.

We as a group stated using a slightly modified FOC set up, mostly as balancing factor. We did not as much "Imposed" it as asked everyone to use it and for the most part everyone did unless they did not have something to fill the slot.

HQ: 1-2
Elite: 1-3
Troops: 1 per 250 points
Fast Attack: 1-3
Heavy Support: 1-3

With 7th though we may drop that or add it as a home brew FOC.

Myself: I am very hard on myself when it comes to WYSIWYG, but as long as I can tell what you have I don't care about my opponent. I also will not field a model that has not been at least primed, but I prefer at least a 3 color scheme.

 Jeeves wrote:
Does anybody have any self-imposed limitations they use for their army for fluff or any other reason?

If I bring my eldar (even to local tournies) everyone b**ches. So I impose self limits to bring space marines.

I know the feeling, Ninjafire. I get complaints about Banshees and Rangers, even. Even when neither inflict a wound in the game.

I also refuse to run Ravenwing bike spam. Even though they struggle, I love the idea of Triwing DA, and I usually bring in some Tac marines with some deepstriking DW buddies.

Yeah sounds like everyone else is enjoying the spirit of competition bar you. If you are tweaking your list to make it weaker, and they are making theirs stronger, just don't allow this and play armies as is.

I will only use Daemons of Tzeench and Chaos Marines with the Mark of Tzeench or unmarked.

Also, my group has a rule where we threw away the allies chart, we don't field Super Heavy's outside of APOC, we field flyers at 1000pts+

When the riptide shenanigans came up I basically made it a rule to myself that I can include one MAX. I dont want to make others roll their eyes or complain that I am cheesin.

sand.zzz wrote:
I always try to bring a balanced list, based on what my opponent has. Problem is, when we exchange lists before the game - as I try to make my list fair and beatable for my opponent - the people I play against try to tweak their list to guarantee a win.
I always lose, pretty much done playing the game itself and just painting/modeling now. My entire community is WAAC.

Eh???
Just bring a big stomping net list every once and a while to keep them guessing (get the drop on those "tweakers").
If you meet someone new, ask them to play you on your "fluffy" nights.
My friends are great but cannot help "tweaking" a bit as well, doing the "bait and switch" makes for much "You !!!".
All in the name of fun of course...

My Sons of Antaeus immediately come to mind.

The Sons of Antaeus used to have rules back at the ass-end of 3rd Edition. They were included in the Chapter Approved rules for the Cursed Founding Chapters. For five points per marine and 10 points per character they could bump their toughness up by one point. Similar to the Mark of Nurgle but with access to loyalist stuff. However these aren't legal or viable anymore (they also used a modified force organization chart which doesn't work very well any more). But the Sons of Antaeus within the GW canon were never really given much in the way of fluff or even a paint scheme to call their own so I was really left to my own devices.

In Greek and North African mythology the figure known as Antaeus was a descendant of Gaia and had an affinity for wrestling. So long as he kept his feet on the ground he could not be bested and he even bested Hercules once. The son of zeus eventually came back and figured out that he could be defeated by lifting him off the ground though.

So my army has a major focus towards close combat. Furthermore I don't take anything that flies, hovers, or soars. No Stormtalons, Stormravens, Landspeeders, or Jump Packs. Nothing that leaves the ground. Forgeworld's Siege Vanguard list has actually been extremely useful due to the ability to take foot-slogging assault squads as troops and the preposterous amount of Centurions but it still means that it's not a totally conventional force.

No bikes. For either SM or Eldar. Surprising how much +1T changes things. Let alone the speed.

I've created a hombrew supplement based of the CSM fluff for the Scourged, and placed some limits (as well as benefits).

-If your primary detachment is a Scourged detachment, it must include either Daemon Prince Gallus Herodicus or Inquisitor Quintillius Varus as its warlord.
-Scourged Detachments cannot include the following HQs: Abaddon the Despoiler, Huron Blackheart, Kharn the Betrayer, Ahriman, Typhus, Lucius the Eternal, Fabius Bile, or a Daemon Prince other than Daemon Prince Gallus Herodicus.
-Scourged Detachments cannot include units of Chosen (these guys all get the axe quick).
-All units in a Scourged detachment must take the Mark of Tzeencht if they are able to do so.
-No units in a Scourged detachment may take the Veterans of the Long War special rule.
-If a Scourged detachment includes Daemon Prince Gallus Herodicus or Inquisitor Quintillius Varus, Scourged units count as Troop Choices.
-If a Scourged detachment includes Daemon Prince Gallus Herodicus, the Scourged detachment can include one unit of Scourged Terminators.
-If a Scourged detachment includes Inquisitor Quintilius Varus, the Scourged detachment can include one unit of Scourged Terminators.
-All Champions of Chaos in a Scourged Detahcment have the Zealot special rule.
-When attempting to summon Daemons of Tzeentch, Scourged Psykers suffer Perils of the Warp as though they were manifesting any other Pychic Power (double 1s only).
-When attempting to summon Daemons of Nurgle, if Scourged Psykers suffer Perils of the Warp, they receive a -1 modifier to their Perils of the Warp roll.

Probably not too kosher playing against purists, but my gaming group has 'reviewed and approved', and I have a separate army list with the normal CSM rules and points and so forth in case I ever get any guff over it.

I play WYSWYG, so that’s one limit.

I try to have something from every FOC slot.

Depending on the list, I sometimes have more restrictions. I’ll sometimes play an armored coloum, where everyone is in a transport/on a bike/some kind of vehicle.

I don’t ally.

 Nevelon wrote:
I play WYSWYG, so that’s one limit.

That's not a limit, that's an actual rule. I mean if it's just a friendly game and you're trying to test-out something you've never ran before then I could see the need to proxy but in every other situation your models should be represented correctly

 Jeeves wrote:
Does anybody have any self-imposed limitations they use for their army for fluff or any other reason?

For example if I ever do Salamanders again and run a Chapter Master, it will absolutely be Tu'Shan:

Artificer armour, thunder hammer, shield eternal/ storm shield in the form of a drakescale cloak and so on. On foot or in a redeemer.

Also the fast attack choices 0-1 each and obviously loads of flamers and meltas.

No Vulkan. Whatever the rules, I can't stand the character. He's ok in the Tome of Fire series but the model he's always taken but meant to be all alone. Even with comandeering chapter assets for his little quest he's seen way too much on the table - the fluff doesn't match the game is my point.

And if I do Flesh Tearers again (I probably will do both again), it's back to the limited resources rule and lots and lots of choppy goodness.

So what limitations do you impose on your own army?

I have been a staunch "No Forge World BS" guy from the word go. So that's my self imposed limitation. But they continue to foist the stuff on us anyways.

 Jancoran wrote:


I have been a staunch "No Forge World BS" guy from the word go. So that's my self imposed limitation. But they continue to foist the stuff on us anyways.

The recent rules created by Forgeworld have not only been fully endorsed by GW but they're more balanced and in step with the fluff than most of the recent codex additions.

 Dust wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
I play WYSWYG, so that’s one limit.

That's not a limit, that's an actual rule. I mean if it's just a friendly game and you're trying to test-out something you've never ran before then I could see the need to proxy but in every other situation your models should be represented correctly

It’s a rule that’s played fast and loose at my FLGS and among my friends. So for me, it’s a limit. YMMV, but not everyone enforces it.

On a similar vein I forgot to add: if it’s not painted, it’s not on the table.

 Nevelon wrote:

On a similar vein I forgot to add: if it’s not painted, it’s not on the table.

That's awesome! I love fully-painted games. It's what wargames supposed to look like.

 Dust wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:


I have been a staunch "No Forge World BS" guy from the word go. So that's my self imposed limitation. But they continue to foist the stuff on us anyways.

The recent rules created by Forgeworld have not only been fully endorsed by GW but they're more balanced and in step with the fluff than most of the recent codex additions.

Let's not get into this discussion ITT. Jancoran lives in Washington, and you live in the Midwest. I doubt either of you will ever bump into each other to have to worry about it

For my main army, Emperor's Children, I only use models with the Mark of Slaanesh or Daemon of Slaanesh. (Vehicles are the obvious exception). And yes, I do waste three points when I buy the Mark of Slaanesh for my obliterators, but that's how I roll.

To follow this, all models I put on the table are painted and have at least some part covered in pink paint.

I only take rune priests or Ulrik as HQ, the only troops I take are GH, I only take meltas for my special and combi weapons, I only take drop pod transports, and the only squad I attach tigurius to is grav cents. Am I doing this right?

 the_Armyman wrote:


Let's not get into this discussion ITT. Jancoran lives in Washington, and you live in the Midwest. I doubt either of you will ever bump into each other to have to worry about it

[Buys ticket to Seattle and prepares to wrestle in the nude]

LETS DO THIS

But no, I understand that there's very different schools of thought on the matter. It cane be a very philosophical and contemplative matter especially when factoring in the access and availability of the rules blah blah blah. I won't weigh down the thread with that.

But if anyone wants to meet up and wrastle I'm totes down.

 Dust wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:


Let's not get into this discussion ITT. Jancoran lives in Washington, and you live in the Midwest. I doubt either of you will ever bump into each other to have to worry about it

[Buys ticket to Seattle and prepares to wrestle in the nude]

LETS DO THIS

But no, I understand that there's very different schools of thought on the matter. It cane be a very philosophical and contemplative matter especially when factoring in the access and availability of the rules blah blah blah. I won't weigh down the thread with that.

But if anyone wants to meet up and wrastle I'm totes down.

Its called VASSAL. Doesnt matter where ya live if you use it. Takes a little prep to get used to but once you are...