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I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one who was disappointed in the state Ghazzy was released in the codex, especially given the new fluff concerning his role as a legitimate Prophet of Gork and Mork. Having only a 6+ FNP is ridiculous, how could one of the biggest baddies of Orkdom not have an invuln. save when a mercenary kaptin like Badrukk does?

As a result, I propose the following revision to his current rules:

Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka - 265 points

WS6 BS2 S6 T6 W4 I4 A5 Ld10 Sv-2+

Warlord Trait: Prophet of the WAAAGH!

Special Rules: WAAAGH!, Furious Charge, Mob Rule, Independent Character, 'Ere We Go!, Eternal Warrior, Power Klaw (removed if Gift of Gork and Mork is approved)

Wargear: Cybork Body, Mega Armour, Big Shoota, Bosspole, Stikkbombs.

Prophet of Gork and Mork: Ghazghkull is the herald of the Ork Gods themselves and thus channels as a focal point of WAAAGH! energy that crackles arounds Ghazghkull like a rippling green ectoplasmic sphere of protection. To reflect the Ork God's protection over Ghazghkull he has a 4+ invulnerable save. If Ghazghkull is your Warlord, he may call a WAAAGH! once at any time after the first game turn; in addition to its usual effects his 4+ invulnerable save becomes a 2+ invulnerable save instead for the duration of the WAAAGH!. This WAAAGH! lasts the remainder of that player turn and all the following player turn. Furthermore, all units with the 'Ere We Go! special rule count as having rolled a 6 for its run move during this WAAAGH! and any unit equipped with Mega Armour are also allowed to run regardless of the Slow and Purposeful rule's restrictions on running when Ghazghkull's WAAAGH! is in effect.

Da Biggest and Da Baddest: Ghazghkull is filled with such zealous ambition and fervour in his goal in uniting Orkdom that his own Orky resolve spreads like wildfire to those who fight in his presence. Ghazghkull and his unit as well as any friendly Ork unit with the 'Ere We Go! special rule within 12" gains the Stubborn special rule.


Here we have Ghazghkull have a slight stat boost to represent his size and stature over generic Ork Warbosses and dealing with the inadequate defences he has given his 200+ point price tag and also revising his WAAAGH! rule back to the one he had in 4th/5th ed. where it actually benefited other units besides him and Mega-Armoured equipped Orks. Furthermore, I felt that given his status as such an inspiring Orky figure that he should be more than a mere beatstick and have some sort of aura that reflected his ability to drive Orks with his own Gork n' Mork driven motivation for war. Also I'm considering giving him a Gift of Gork and Mork (always found it odd that he didn't have any sort of special weaponry given his status) which would be a power klaw without unwieldy. Given that he's only I4 I think it wouldn't be overkill since guys like Abbadon or Draigo will still attack before him and it simply levels the playing field against mundane non-initiative AP2 weaponry. If included it would look something like this.





Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Crusader's a bit too much and i'm not sure about PK at ini. I'd rather give him IWND. Otherwise, i think that's what he should have been in the first place.

Hm...it does seem Ghazghkull is a hard nut to crack, given that he managed to smash his way through a Mawlock's gullet after being swallowed whole. Maybe his Gift of Gork and Mork should be his adamantium skull plate? Which gives him IWND and Adamantium Will?

Maybe you could add something that allows you to expend Warp Charge points during the Waaagh! to increase charge distance by D3 per charge?

Either that, or during a Waaagh! you generate Warp Charge for every unit and character on the board.

I kinda feel that it would be a little bit better if it was a 5+ invulnerable save instead of a 4+ one for the special rule, because he already is as tough as he is, including the fact that he's got Eternal Warrior.

keep him like he is and just add the following special rule.

Brutal Cunning: At the end of any phase in which Ghazkull Thrakka has been reduced to 1 wound, you may remove him from play and place him into ongoing reserves (as he sneaks away cunningly). Upon returning to the field of battle the following turn he regains 1 wound and may enter as though outflanking.

Seems to me that an ork famed for his powerful headbutts should qualify for Hammer of Wrath, possibly with an extra bonus (Concussive, for example).

EDIT: I've also always found it odd that his Big Shoota isn't twin-linked despite having two barrels and two ammo drums.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Seems to me that an ork famed for his powerful headbutts should qualify for Hammer of Wrath, possibly with an extra bonus (Concussive, for example).

EDIT: I've also always found it odd that his Big Shoota isn't twin-linked despite having two barrels and two ammo drums.

Great idea with the headbutt! And fluffy. What about d3+1 Concussive HOW hits? Not super powerful cause it's ap- but d3+1 s5 concussive hits are alwayz handy. This, tl bigshoota - cause why not - and 4++ will make him totaly worthwhile. He's still gona be exceptionally expensive but at least be in the same league with Logan Grimnar and not just a regular 4-wound boss without invul that dies before striking. But do we really need a slow expensive beatstick?

I'd really want to see a buff machine and not a beatstick. Orkses are about tactix and synergy. Ghazzy is tough fluffwise, but i guess he stands no chance against anything of super-level like Abbaddon or Mary Sue Draigo. Ghazzy must buff the army. If the auto-6' charge run is back, he'd allready be fine in huge games.

T6 W4 Independent Character with 4++? He'd be the Swarmlord with 30 ablative wounds and a 2+ armour save.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
T6 W4 Independent Character with 4++? He'd be the Swarmlord with 30 ablative wounds and a 2+ armour save.

Ah, but the T6 wouldn't come into play until challenges come in given that you use majority toughness if you hide him in a group of boyz, which aren't exactly hard to whittle down in today's high volume of fire meta. Also, if you factor in FNP or KFF save from Painboyz or Big Meks then you should also factor in the potential 2+-3+ cover save from Shrouded from nearby Venomthropes for the Swarmlord and his Tyrant Guard retinue. Also keep in mind that the Swarmlord projects flat out fearless with his synapse range, is a psyker which gives him access to buffing Psychic Powers and Psychic defense which Ghazghkull lacks as well as the fact that ol' Swarmy is arguably more dangerous in most situations in CC given his higher initiative/WS and causing ID on all of his attacks. He also has an extra wound over Ghazghkull and can also gain access to FNP via Catalyst.

The main reason why I made him T6 is because he is supposed to be significantly larger and stronger than most other Warbosses, personally I thought that the Swarmlord should have been similar in having higher stats (i.e. S7 T7), and that it should be reflected from his tougher constitution rather than just wounds or EW.

I do like the previous idea of the 'eadbutt hammer of wrath ability, though it would add more points onto Ghazzy.


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 koooaei wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Seems to me that an ork famed for his powerful headbutts should qualify for Hammer of Wrath, possibly with an extra bonus (Concussive, for example).

EDIT: I've also always found it odd that his Big Shoota isn't twin-linked despite having two barrels and two ammo drums.

Great idea with the headbutt! And fluffy. What about d3+1 Concussive HOW hits? Not super powerful cause it's ap- but d3+1 s5 concussive hits are alwayz handy. This, tl bigshoota - cause why not - and 4++ will make him totaly worthwhile. He's still gona be exceptionally expensive but at least be in the same league with Logan Grimnar and not just a regular 4-wound boss without invul that dies before striking. But do we really need a slow expensive beatstick?

I'd really want to see a buff machine and not a beatstick. Orkses are about tactix and synergy. Ghazzy is tough fluffwise, but i guess he stands no chance against anything of super-level like Abbaddon or Mary Sue Draigo. Ghazzy must buff the army. If the auto-6' charge run is back, he'd allready be fine in huge games.

I agree in wanting a more "taktikul"-like SC rather than a beatstick one, but by and large Ghazzy seems to epitomize more of the Gork aspect of the Ork gods than Mork, given that most of his achievements have him leading by example. I think we'd be better off showing the Morkiness of Orkdom through someone like Nazdreg or Orkimedes himself where they utilize more sneaky aspects of war directly via Tellyportas or judicious applications of flashy gear.