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2014/09/04 21:17:13
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
So was the painting of a vagina-flower-thing drawn by a woman who used nothing but her menstrual blood.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2014/09/04 21:20:26
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2014/09/04 21:28:23
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
I do not feel any obligation to respond seriously and deeply to a post that calls me a gak-faced hard-liner.
Indeed, are you actually able to respond to anything without twisting it to suit your petty agenda? Where have I call you specifically a name? I do believe that quote you've so typically purloined was aimed a movement. Considering the way you conduct yourself I guess it's really hardly surprising that you would align yourself with such a cult.
What's ironic about your post, in keeping with most fanatical movements, you people will find any and every excuse to be insulted. Which indicates that, no matter what the video game (and any other industry) does to try to appease your whining, you'll always find some displeasure, some minor slight with which to launch your next crusade......once a victim, forever a victim.
Anyway, good luck, I trust the video games industry will do much the same as me, and simply place you and your "movement" where you belong.....on the ignore list!
Man down, Man down....
2014/09/04 21:29:40
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2014/09/04 21:31:43
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
I think the gender of your character is often secondary to the game itself. The gender of a protagonists (or a group of protagonists) should flow naturally from the story being told. One should inform the other.
Talizvar wrote: The better games let you play any class with any sex.
That's a strikingly colossal generalisation. What determines how good a game is is often, y'know, the game itself (gameplay, mechanics, story, music, graphics), not which gender you can choose.
We are altogether too focused on gender when it's one of the least important aspects of games. To quoteAmy Henning, the writer on everything from the Legacy of Cain series to the Uncharted series:
"You just write people, honestly. It's not any different. I think that if you're over-focused on the gender, you're probably writing a pretty one-dimensional character. Gender's not that huge of a component of personality, I don't think. At the end of the day, I think our humanity is the bigger component. I try to just write everybody like...genderless in some ways. Which I think is what makes them interesting."
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The issue is just that we keep buying the stuff, same with GW, people are complaining but are still buying the stuff, so the developers go, why make different games they keep buying our crap.
Oh and X-blade is bad, one of the few games i stopped playing because it was that bad (and i am a trophy nut) lately i got blades of time which is basically the same game with better graphics.
H.B.M.C., I am not sure how the gender of the protagonists inform the story. Especially since you (rightfully so, imo) how gender is not a big part of personality.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/05 08:59:51
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
Sorry for the confusion, I mean that the story should inform what characters show up. If a female character fits into the story being told, then it should have a female character. If the half-bear/half-falcon blind transexual possessed by the spirit of a Latino war-veteran fits the story... then that is the character that should be there.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/05 09:17:50
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
That's not to say you can't come up with a great character and then write a story around that, but, again, the gender of that "great" character is an aspect of that character, not their reason for being. A character isn't interesting because they're a man or a woman. They're interesting because of their back-story, their attitude, the way they interact with people and so on.
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As a gay man, I require all females be removed from games and all males be highly sexualised for my pleasure.
On a more serious note, I had great enjoyment reading a certain users posts and thinking to myself "How the feth can you think that way when it's been pointed out repeated times how wrong you are by multiple people?". Great fun!
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2014/09/05 09:35:02
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
H.B.M.C. wrote: If the half-bear/half-falcon blind transexual possessed by the spirit of a Latino war-veteran fits the story... then that is the character that should be there.
Not going to lie, I would play the gak out of that game. It shall be called...Bearmanbird : Revengence
H.B.M.C. wrote: If the half-bear/half-falcon blind transexual possessed by the spirit of a Latino war-veteran fits the story... then that is the character that should be there.
Not going to lie, I would play the gak out of that game.
It shall be called...Bearmanbird : Revengence
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's called "Dragon Age: Inquisition."
2014/09/05 09:38:46
Subject: Re:What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
H.B.M.C. wrote: If the half-bear/half-falcon blind transexual possessed by the spirit of a Latino war-veteran fits the story... then that is the character that should be there.
Not going to lie, I would play the gak out of that game. It shall be called...Bearmanbird : Revengence
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's called "Dragon Age: Inquisition."
Will you able to romance a pigeon? If not, I will be very disappointed. I mean, Hatoful boyfriend did it.
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
2014/09/05 09:40:01
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
Holy gak, she has high heels without the fething heels.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2014/09/05 09:42:32
Subject: What problems do gamers have with how women are represented in games?
CthuluIsSpy wrote:Apparently, magic makes you weightless.
The lack of heavy armour allows the warrior to make full use of her agility instead of being burdened (= dragged down) by weight. Don't you see? It's science!
Speaking of Dragon Age, I have to say that those games had some cool nice and bulky armour designs.
H.B.M.C. wrote: If the half-bear/half-falcon blind transexual possessed by the spirit of a Latino war-veteran fits the story... then that is the character that should be there.
Not going to lie, I would play the gak out of that game.
It shall be called...Bearmanbird : Revengence
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's called "Dragon Age: Inquisition."
Will you able to romance a pigeon? If not, I will be very disappointed.
I mean, Hatoful boyfriend did it.
If not, you can rest assured that David Gaider will show up at the next PIGEONROMANCEGAMERCON to apologize and promise to do better.
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