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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/05 08:07:15
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
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I have one squad of command squad, one battle tank, 2 platoons of guard mans, 2 squad of stormtrooper and few heavy team total worth about 500 pts.
I feel it is too few and I still have 5 grey knight terminator lay around.
How can I reuse it into new 7th ed codex and what I need to buy?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/05 08:13:15
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/05 09:15:10
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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You've got the makings of a solid allied detachment there, actually. Especially if you play an elite, low model count any like GK or SM, 500 points of Guard is enough to bring another few dozen Objective Secured scoring models and some dangerous AV14. Here is my standard 'plug in' Guard allied detachment:
Lord Commissar, power sword (could just as easily be a CCS)
Priest
Platoon Command Squad, 4 flames (great defensive unit)
2-3x Platoon Infantry Squads with Lascannons (can sit back and shoot well enough)
20 Conscript (add the priest here, you get 21 Fearless woyndswounds for 85 points, making a great Tarpit/objective holder/mobile cover unit)
Vanquisher with LC/PC
In total, this adds 45-55 extra Objective Secured troops, a tough and dangerous tank and some neat firepower for just under 600 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/05 09:40:53
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
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Thank! That mean my guardman will stay as allied detachment, I guess it is good too.
Look like I need astra militarum codex...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/05 14:01:45
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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You can always start an AM force with GK allies. Since you already have 5 GK termies lying around, all you need is an HQ for them to be an allied force.
edit: btw. dear god, do you type like this on purpose? I checked your posts and had to sift through well over a third before I could come across one that didn't contain a spelling mistake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/05 16:18:46
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
UK
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Sir Arun wrote:
edit: btw. dear god, do you type like this on purpose? I checked your posts and had to sift through well over a third before I could come across one that didn't contain a spelling mistake.
Yes, I always type too fast... And hit submit button too quick before check for spell correct or missing word... Silly me!
Yeah why not? Because I was thinking about wipe off the grey knight logo using sandpaper and made them Librarians in terminator armour... Erm... 5 Librarians? Keep Grey knight is better idea then!
Wish there are mini-codex like rulebook where you can get codex for cheaper(!) heh
Right... Which grey knight HQ shall I get? For allies with guardsman I already have, and what else to add?
( this time I've double check before I hit submit button  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/05 18:24:12
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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ML3 Librarian is the only competitive choice now.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/05 18:24:23
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/06 22:06:53
Subject: Re:What I do with my guardman?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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That librarian will also give you some psychic denial against psychic armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/06 22:54:40
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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a ML3 Lib is certinly one of the gems of the codex, but I'm not sure I'd call it the ONLY choice. the GK brother-captian/Grandmaster's not a BAD choice eaither. particualrly if you're running an IG gunline and are planning on using your GKs as melee beatsticks.
That said I'd reccomend a Libby as well as they're gonna be cheaper,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 03:48:37
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
In Warp Transit to next battlefield location, Destination Unknown
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Since you are going to add in a GK Librarian, why not put him in Terminator armor? That way he can deepstrike in with the rest of the GK terminators all in the same turn. Talk about a hard hitting reserve force.
As to what you might want to add in next, towards your IG forces. What do you primarily face against you across the battlefield?
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Cowards will be shot! Survivors will be shot again!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 03:57:14
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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GK Librarians come with TDA. Always have.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 09:37:40
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
UK
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Is this one suitable for Grey Knight Librarian? Any recommend model that was suitable for Grey Knight Librarian?
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Librarian-in-Terminator-Armour
Update:
Just found Grey Knights Paladins box set. I think it is better choice.. Anyone have better recommend please share.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 10:17:33
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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that one is perfectly suitable. GW uses it as their Librarian in all their photos. I'm honestly not sure why GW doesn't have it listed in the GK HQ section of their website.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 10:30:42
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
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Yeah, either are good idea.
I can take Grey Knights Paladins box set and pick one model to conversion.
Or
Space Marine Librarian in Terminator Armour.. Just a paintwork to made him a special.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/08 12:16:57
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Need a behhhnblaaaaadeee!
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" $@#& YOU! There are 3 things I want in a guy: Tall, Handsome, and plays Dark Eldar!"-every woman since
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 15:26:44
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
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Behnblade? I can't read what you said? It just give me a headach to read that long word I don't understand.
Need a - what?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 15:35:32
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Baneblade.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 15:45:03
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
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Ah! Yeah baneblade look good and I had been looking at it since it first out.
Is it worth to get one for high point to get kill-point back?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 16:03:34
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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500 points + a baneblade.
Really?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 16:17:56
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
UK
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Company command squad, one battle tank, 2 platoons of guard mans, 2 squad of stormtrooper and few heavy team , valkyrie ( or vendetta) and baneblade.
Ally - Libby in terminator armour and 5 grey knight terminator
How was that sound?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 16:45:39
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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It's the BEEEEEEEEHNBLAAAAAAAAAAADE.
No seriously, your opponents will probably refuse to play you if you bring it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 18:06:22
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
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Sir Arun wrote:It's the BEEEEEEEEHNBLAAAAAAAAAAADE.
No seriously, your opponents will probably refuse to play you if you bring it. 
Really? Is that because 'overpower' ? Or not? What the reason..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 19:51:34
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Solidcrash wrote: Sir Arun wrote:It's the BEEEEEEEEHNBLAAAAAAAAAAADE.
No seriously, your opponents will probably refuse to play you if you bring it. 
Really? Is that because 'overpower' ? Or not? What the reason.. 
Not at all. They're not hard to kill. Just tougher than a normal tank.
Four guys with meltaguns have a decent chance of oneshotting it.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 21:00:16
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Sir Arun wrote:It's the BEEEEEEEEHNBLAAAAAAAAAAADE.
No seriously, your opponents will probably refuse to play you if you bring it. 
Anyone who would refuse playing against a baneblade is a care bear. You don't wanna play against those people anyway man...
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" $@#& YOU! There are 3 things I want in a guy: Tall, Handsome, and plays Dark Eldar!"-every woman since
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/10 22:14:01
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
UK
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Haha! True.
I guess I'll focus on those two model to buy.
Libby and Baneblade to compete my AM armies to equal with rest of my armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 07:20:55
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
UK
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Just got quick peek at astra militarum from my club. No time to read whole book so I just peek at armies list and pts.
What the different between Elysian drop and astra militarum?
Elysian drop I've managed to add up the pts.
It is 935 pts without buy anything or add grey knight to Elysian drop rooster.
Lord commission with power fist
Two storm trooper squad with 2 x flamer / 2 x frag launcher
Two platoon squad
(Command squad and 2x Ten men per platoon.)
Vendetta
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 07:35:06
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Elysian units are generally five to ten points more expensive to pay for their Deep Strike and Iron Discipline rules, replace all mentions of the word "chjmera" with "valkyrie", don't get psykers, abhumans or special characters, and get some extra toys.
Oh, and no heavy weapons in infantry squads. Also, you need Imperial Armour 3 Second Edition as well as Codex: Astra Militarum to use them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 07:47:29
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Sir Arun wrote:You can always start an AM force with GK allies. Since you already have 5 GK termies lying around, all you need is an HQ for them to be an allied force.
edit: btw. dear god, do you type like this on purpose? I checked your posts and had to sift through well over a third before I could come across one that didn't contain a spelling mistake.
+1 to this, I can't help but read it in this guy's voice:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 08:24:20
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
UK
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Furyou Miko wrote:Elysian units are generally five to ten points more expensive to pay for their Deep Strike and Iron Discipline rules, replace all mentions of the word "chjmera" with "valkyrie", don't get psykers, abhumans or special characters, and get some extra toys.
Oh, and no heavy weapons in infantry squads. Also, you need Imperial Armour 3 Second Edition as well as Codex: Astra Militarum to use them.
Oh no.... That is why he have a paper of Elysian Drop armies list.. I thought it was a short cut!
Is Storm Trooper dead in Astra Militarum? Because I cannot find storm trooper in elite list..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 08:45:17
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Hallowed Canoness
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They're renamed Militarum Tempestus.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/12 09:16:44
Subject: What I do with my guardman?
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Audacious Atalan Jackal
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Thank!
990 pts
Lord commission with power fist
Two Militarum Tempestus squad with 2 x flamer / 2 x frag launcher
Two platoon squad
(Command squad and 2x Ten men per platoon.)
Vendetta
Leman Russ - battle tank
Wow. The point are more pricey than imperial guard codex!
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