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This is one of the few releases from GW that I have been quite interested in for a long time. I missed out on the 2009 release, and didn't play board games before that, so getting a new copy instead of an overpriced used one definitely appeals to me.

I haven't purchased anything from GW in the last nine months, since I stopped playing 40K and Fantasy, because I moved to other games.
This is a self contained game that can be played in a shorter time span, requires less setup time and even includes terrain. You probably couldn't even get the miniatures for the price of the board game if you were to purchase them separately from GW.

 Grimtuff wrote:

This.

I lost count of the sheer volume of lapsed gamers that popped into my local GW (and those were the just the ones I saw) looking for a copy of Space Hulk after the news of its re-release had filtered out of wargaming circles, only to be told it was a limited run and have them walk off never to be seen again.

So now they're doing it again for a wedge of short term money and not having this as a gateway game where you can get some of that delicious nostalgia money and they'll probably stick around to expand into 40k proper.

Surely it'll bring in lapsed gamers now as well?

I'll be bringing mine to Gobstyks as soon as I have it, you are more that welcome to a game as a fellow lincolnite, I know you are a big GW fan

Yeah I bought mine for £100 in around 2010, £110 with postage. I haven't even had the heart to open the plastic yet. Not that I really planned to sell it, I guess I was kind of saving it, like a good bottle of wine. I'm not really sure how I feel about this. On one hand it should never have been a special release, I'd have been way happier to buy it from GW for regular game price in 2010, I probably wouldn't have felt so guilty about opening it either. On the other hand it was supposed to be a special edition, and this is a kick in the balls for people who bought it as such.

 Pacific wrote:
Interestingly, GameZone, the company that are relaunching 'Heroquest 25th edition', that have rights to the name in Spain, also have rights to 'Space Crusade' apparently, and are in process of working on something for it. I think a lot depends on whether this is a 'clean' launch for Heroquest 25th, and whether the game reaches the US specifically without a legal challenge, as to whether we will see a GameZone designed Space Crusade.

Yes Space Crusade was made by MB games - I believe GW had input on some of the design of miniatures, rest was MB. Rules were written by a chap who also wrote Heroquest, an American - sadly I forget his name, within boardgaming history he is something of an enigma, disappeared into the sunset after writing those games all those years ago and was never seen again..

I've always loved Space Crusade... Actually that's a lie, I always thought the miniatures were really crap; however, for the last 10 years, they've been crap in a nostalgic way. I've often thought about refabricating the whole game with all new components, but I'm way too lazy. The game play is awesome though. I like the simplicity of the weapons. The only down side is you need to have someone be the bitch and play the bad guys, which makes 2-player games boring as hell.

I can't see GameZone rereleasing Space Crusade. Hero Quest was fairly generic fantasy stuff, but Space Crusade is: Space Marines™, Ultramarines™, Blood Angels™, Imperial Fists™, Genestealers™, Chaos Space Marines™, all fighting aboard a Space Hulk™. I think it would be pretty difficult to reproduce it in an authentic way without incurring the wrath of GW.

The more I think about this the more excited I am!

I love the board-based gaming more than table I think, mainly because it's impossible to out buy and out cheese your opponent.

Just open your pristine copy of Space Hulk 2009 and play it.

The game is good, it is self-contained, and needs no extras. (IMO adding to it runs a danger of compromising the purity of the rules.)

There is nothing in the 2014 version to invalidate the earlier version. If anything, the new Boarding Torpedo tiles are just a fancied up entry point. The new missions may be interesting, but they may actually be unbalanced. (Not all the old missions are well balanced.)

I suspect the boarding torps will allow both:

1. Choice of entry point.
2. Entry during a mission.

Always wanted SH since I first played Space Crusade. (24 yrs ago! ) Too young to afford it and buy my SW back then, and I was on a break from war gaming when 3rd was released. So I'm really pleased to get a chance to buy and play it for the first time.

Just wish it wasn't on a limited run, If they had the models on their 40k base (25mm for stealers and 40mm for termies i believe ) and threw in a small booklet on the bare basic rules for 40k, then they would have the ultimate gateway game.

It's a stupid thing to complain about, but I hate the new font on the box. I guess they needed to change something, though.

And a price increase, too. Yay. I thought $99 was high when they released it before, but is Space Hulk really worth going well into triple digits for? I wouldn't mind getting another copy of it just because, but at that price I have to seriously think about it.

Also, is it seriously a limited edition again?

Alright, booked my copy at the FLGS. Can't wait!

Oh man, I remember Space Crusade- that Dreadnought used to kick my ass lol.
I wish they'd do like an add on pack for Space Hulk though so folks who bought it last time don't have to shell out.

 Sidstyler wrote:
It's a stupid thing to complain about, but I hate the new font on the box. I guess they needed to change something, though.

And a price increase, too. Yay. I thought $99 was high when they released it before, but is Space Hulk really worth going well into triple digits for? I wouldn't mind getting another copy of it just because, but at that price I have to seriously think about it.

Also, is it seriously a limited edition again?

You like me are an old timer. I won't be buying this edition because I have three sets of first edition, plus Deathwing and the original Whaite Dwarf expansion, the metal Terminators, and a set of Spulk 2009.

I still think £75 is a fair price for the game, given the detail of the figures, compared with rival boxed games such as Twilight Imperium III or Shogun. If you don't have it already.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I won't be buying this edition because I have three sets of first edition, plus Deathwing and the original Whaite Dwarf expansion, the metal Terminators, and a set of Spulk 2009.

It's a tough one. I have 1st edition, and Genestealer (and Ultra marines), and 2nd edition, and quite a lot of the white dwarf extra missions and press-outs. Not to mention a shed load of those blue terminators, and a full set of the old metal terminators (mmm hazard stripe power-fists). And obviously I've got 2009. And so many new games coming now. I backed Arcadia Quest, SDE and Zombicide 3. And Operation Icestorm turning up any day now. I need to show some restraint or I'm gonna run out of shelf space.

But then... I keep thinking if I change my mind later and decide I do want this version, it's gonna cost double what they're charging now.

How are people pre-ordering this?!

When quizzed yesterday, my FLGS just said "GW announcements are on Fridays"

I'm going in to tonight to pick up a Bastilodon so maybe they'll be more forthcoming in person... I mean, I can't afford it anyways, but like you know, what ever.

It is likely their favourite store/webstore 'promising' to order it when it becomes available for them to order.

OK that makes sense.

 monders wrote:
How are people pre-ordering this?!

When quizzed yesterday, my FLGS just said "GW announcements are on Fridays"

I'm going in to tonight to pick up a Bastilodon so maybe they'll be more forthcoming in person... I mean, I can't afford it anyways, but like you know, what ever.

I buy most of my stuff through Element Games, but this time I'm going to pre-order it direct from the GW website, just make sure I get a copy.

Ha ha, that's who I spoke to.

Yeah it might be worth paying full RRP this one time. I wonder if they'll let me wash brushes/hoover the store to pay it off?!

 monders wrote:
How are people pre-ordering this?!

When quizzed yesterday, my FLGS just said "GW announcements are on Fridays"

I'm going in to tonight to pick up a Bastilodon so maybe they'll be more forthcoming in person... I mean, I can't afford it anyways, but like you know, what ever.

Yep, talked to one of the bigger stores (retail+web) in the country, and they guaranteed me a set. Which probably means I'm the first to ask since they don't have it up for pre-order on their site. Might still try to get one from GW though since the price is exactly the same.

 monders wrote:
How are people pre-ordering this?!

When quizzed yesterday, my FLGS just said "GW announcements are on Fridays"

I'm going in to tonight to pick up a Bastilodon so maybe they'll be more forthcoming in person... I mean, I can't afford it anyways, but like you know, what ever.

We aren't really supposed to put up announcements on our websites, etc until friday. Your FLGS may be towing the line tightly.

I have no problem talking on Dakka when the thread has been up for 6 pages before i enter it.

Bug them again at 2pm on Friday, when we suddenly are supposed to "Go Loud" with the announcement.

Silly way to do business. Get told, but be quiet, Then supposed to shout all weekend, and order on Monday?

No, sold out on Friday evening, shout all weekend, rage on monday.

Thanks guys, I thought I was missing out on some really obvious shopping tactics.

Now I just need to pull £75 out of thin air!

Yeah, mine is just going to order it when it becomes available, but it's obvious when that will be so I've just gone along the lines of 'if by chance this is released Saturday can I get a copy ordered nudge nudge'

I could totally have gotten this for my birthday if I'd known a few weeks ago. Maybe I'll put money by for the 2016 edition but there's no point even looking for this come pay day.

£75 isn’t unreasonable considering what you get in there. I’m happily going to drop that much on Imperial Assault next year and the contents are comparable.

As I’ve already got the 2009 edition I think I’ll give this a miss as 4 extra missions don’t quite justify it, but if I didn’t own it I’d certainly pick this up.

Yeah, the price is OK, comparable to two boxes of Termies and a box of Stealers, and for that you get a ton of tiles, a whole game, better sculpts ect. If it weren't limited edition, GW would be dangerously close to doing something right. Alas...

We aren't really supposed to put up announcements on our websites, etc until friday. Your FLGS may be towing the line tightly.

I have no problem talking on Dakka when the thread has been up for 6 pages before i enter it.

Bug them again at 2pm on Friday, when we suddenly are supposed to "Go Loud" with the announcement.

Silly way to do business. Get told, but be quiet, Then supposed to shout all weekend, and order on Monday?

2pm you say? Thanks for the heads up

 Paradigm wrote:
Yeah, the price is OK, comparable to two boxes of Termies and a box of Stealers, and for that you get a ton of tiles, a whole game, better sculpts ect. If it weren't limited edition, GW would be dangerously close to doing something right. Alas...

You're going down a dangerous path here.

Put out this way then: I think this set represents fair value at the retail price, both for the game itself and the 40k crossover appeal. Yes, it's more expensive than last time, but cheaper than I'd see it on eBay. If I can get hold of a copy, I'll happily pay for it at GW prices.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Yeah, the price is OK, comparable to two boxes of Termies and a box of Stealers, and for that you get a ton of tiles, a whole game, better sculpts ect. If it weren't limited edition, GW would be dangerously close to doing something right. Alas...

You're going down a dangerous path here.

Yeah basically. The first Space Hulk box I bought (2nd ed) was priced such that I could just buy it with the pocket money I had saved and I treated it like a reasonably priced board game. This one is too expensive for me to impulse buy... even though now I have a job and earn significantly more money

 Paradigm wrote:
Put out this way then: I think this set represents fair value at the retail price, both for the game itself and the 40k crossover appeal. Yes, it's more expensive than last time, but cheaper than I'd see it on eBay. If I can get hold of a copy, I'll happily pay for it at GW prices.

I dunno, £75 is a fair bit of sticker shock. In the context of GW's RRP it is reasonable, but seeing as GW's stuff is overpriced to begin with it really seems like an exercise in futility to me.

This is a product that really should not be a limited run and be priced about a 1/3rd cheaper and find its way into toy shops etc. As I already said, the sheer volume of lapsed gamers that came in trying to buy it only to walk off never to be seen again was staggering.