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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Sold out before white dwarf goes on sale in GWs? Many angry customers ahoy!

Well I've got my copy ordered wonder if these are up on eBay yet?

Yep there is one listing for £200 already and that was just first one I found.

PLUS 15 quid for delivery, that's hilarious, but he is throwing in a brand new copy of this weeks WD, so fair play to him

Watching to see If there is two people in the world daft enough...

Call me crazy but it looks a lot like what PP did with their Level 7 game.....

Why does GW think its worth $100+ and make it stupidly limited?
Cuz honestly I have not bought anything from GW in over 3 years but this had me interested right up until I got to see the price

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's kind of annoying that they let folks buy 3 copies at a time. All they're gonna do with it is bung it on eBay and jack the price up.

Guilty as charged

Seriously, though, don't blame people like me - blame GW's idiotic sales policy that puts a hugely popular game on a limited sale.

I'm doing the same thing I did with dreadfleet: buy a few copies, paint them up, sell them on some time next summer, make some cash.

Well at least you're putting some effort into it.

Lol I just checked my Wayland account and it seems like I already placed an order last night, or at least I started an order. Never think about buying stuff at 2am folks!

Glad I decided to pull the trigger and pre-order mine.

There was people complaining that they wish they still sold Space Hulk in stores, and if it ever came back they'd buy it.

Then there was groans for this coming back. The people who scored a box through ebay or whatever, and paid more than full retail.

Now it's sold out and there are more groans.

I see lots of questions trying to make sense of GW's business strategies, and suggestions to do things better.

What I find funny, is all the fans ( customer base here ) who love to do the groaning, complaining, armchair quarter backing, day after day, year after year. It's not GW guys, it's all of you. Nothing will make you happy. GW could give away free minis, paints, or whatever, and you'd all still find a way to complain ( yes it's true! I can hear the argument of "It's way over due, shoulda done this a long time ago!" ).

Learn how to be happy fella's. Then ya'll might start enjoying the hobby again.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's kind of annoying that they let folks buy 3 copies at a time. All they're gonna do with it is bung it on eBay and jack the price up.

Guilty as charged

Seriously, though, don't blame people like me - blame GW's idiotic sales policy that puts a hugely popular game on a limited sale.

I'm doing the same thing I did with dreadfleet: buy a few copies, paint them up, sell them on some time next summer, make some cash.

Actually, I do blame 'people' like you.

UltraPrime wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's kind of annoying that they let folks buy 3 copies at a time. All they're gonna do with it is bung it on eBay and jack the price up.

Guilty as charged

Seriously, though, don't blame people like me - blame GW's idiotic sales policy that puts a hugely popular game on a limited sale.

I'm doing the same thing I did with dreadfleet: buy a few copies, paint them up, sell them on some time next summer, make some cash.

Actually, I do blame 'people' like you.

Its a free market. Suck it up.

If GW didn't artficially inflate demand by under supplying the market with a pitifully small production run, price gouging ebay touters wouldn't be a problem.

 Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:

The one valid criticism is that Space Hulk makes a great starter game to help recruit new players.

It really doesn't. It presents a misleading idea as to what the game is. It would be like using HeroQuest as the "starter game" to recruit new players for Fantasy.

Does it get them interested in the background of the game universe? Possibly.
Does it get them excited about the models included? Possibly.
Does it actually help them start an army? Not a chance.

Dark Vengeance is tired, we know their recruitment must suffer from the high price of entry, so they really need to pull something special out for the starter set. I can see box sets like Storm Claw doing well for them, if they produce more along those lines, but they still need a starter.

Right...but Storm Claw was not really a "starter". It was a campaign themed box set.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's kind of annoying that they let folks buy 3 copies at a time. All they're gonna do with it is bung it on eBay and jack the price up.

Guilty as charged

Seriously, though, don't blame people like me - blame GW's idiotic sales policy that puts a hugely popular game on a limited sale.

I'm doing the same thing I did with dreadfleet: buy a few copies, paint them up, sell them on some time next summer, make some cash.

Actually, I do blame 'people' like you.

Its a free market. Suck it up.

If GW didn't artficially inflate demand by under supplying the market with a pitifully small production run, price gouging ebay touters wouldn't be a problem.

Exactly. GW must be the only company on earth that thinks, hmm, we've got a popular product that's flying off the shelves. Let's stop making it

We've all heard of Reaganomics, so here's a new word for the English dictionary: KIRBY-NOMICS!

The reason it is flying off shelfs is nostalgia and artificial scarcity. I agree this will not grow the brand, but most corporations are more worried about short term profits. How many board members will still be with GW in 5 years? In ten?

Children are not buying $125 board games either. Its current adults like myself that grew up on GW games. Like it or not the table top market competes directly with video games. So you could buy 2 brand new peasant box games for the price of 1 x Space Hulk. Hope your Dad is a wargamer kid.

I can only imagine what a updated release of a long oop title like Blood Bowl, Warhammer Quest, Mordhiem or Necromunda would bring in.

I hope at the very least this will show GW there is a place in the market for specialist games again beyond very limited releases every few years.

I'll rail on GW for price a lot, but this is $125 (US) for $110 worth of terminators, $20 Libby, $20 Broodlord, $70 genestealers, and all with superior sculpts to what is currently on market, as well as the game board stuff. So it's about half off what everything would be individually. As far as price goes, this is fairly reasonable. I don't think it's over priced at all. I do think keeping it secret and making it so only those of us who regularly have $100+ to blow at the drop of a hat can get it is daft, but price isn't a big deal. If they gave a month heads up...it would be totally fine.

And first person calling me a white knight A. doesn't know me, and B. gets the clamps.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's kind of annoying that they let folks buy 3 copies at a time. All they're gonna do with it is bung it on eBay and jack the price up.

Guilty as charged

Seriously, though, don't blame people like me - blame GW's idiotic sales policy that puts a hugely popular game on a limited sale.

I'm doing the same thing I did with dreadfleet: buy a few copies, paint them up, sell them on some time next summer, make some cash.

Actually, I do blame 'people' like you.

Its a free market. Suck it up.

If GW didn't artficially inflate demand by under supplying the market with a pitifully small production run, price gouging ebay touters wouldn't be a problem.

Exactly. GW must be the only company on earth that thinks, hmm, we've got a popular product that's flying off the shelves. Let's stop making it

We've all heard of Reaganomics, so here's a new word for the English dictionary: KIRBY-NOMICS!

We have a donut store in my town that is only open 4 days a week. There is always a line and once they sell out thats it for the day. I have a friend that designs and prints t-shirts. He purposely does not keep all designs in stock. Stock sitting in a warehouse actually is costing a retailer money. Artificial scarcity to create demand is a well known sales tactic that works, short term.

I think GW's sculpts and casting quality is are very good. I love the designs,art, and background fluff. But I rarely buy new GW products because they are over priced to me compared to other games/minis. If Zi buy GW stuff it isn't direct and rarely new. I picked up a copy of Bolt Action starter set with 40 minis, a ruined farm house terrain piece, rule book, dice for $77 USD shipped.

 tgmoore wrote:
Children are not buying $125 board games either. Its current adults like myself that grew up on GW games. Like it or not the table top market competes directly with video games. So you could buy 2 brand new peasant box games for the price of 1 x Space Hulk. Hope your Dad is a wargamer kid.

I bought the 2nd edition Space Hulk game with money earned from doing chores and such as, ummm, I guess I would have been 11. It took me a while to earn the money to get it... but luckily it wasn't on the shelves for 30 seconds before selling out and GW prices were more reasonable so I could actually save up and get it

AH well, it is pretty crappy that they let you buy three copies at a time, i bet a good chunk of GW sales was the resellers with this game.
Must admit, I was very tempted to buy six or nine !

Excellent, find out about this, count my lucky stars, sold out already.

At least there will be a new influx of the Terminators on ebay.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'll rail on GW for price a lot, but this is $125 (US) for $110 worth of terminators, $20 Libby, $20 Broodlord, $70 genestealers, and all with superior sculpts to what is currently on market, as well as the game board stuff. So it's about half off what everything would be individually. As far as price goes, this is fairly reasonable. I don't think it's over priced at all. I do think keeping it secret and making it so only those of us who regularly have $100+ to blow at the drop of a hat can get it is daft, but price isn't a big deal. If they gave a month heads up...it would be totally fine.

And first person calling me a white knight A. doesn't know me, and B. gets the clamps.

The key problem is not the price, but the fact that it sold out in less than a day.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'll rail on GW for price a lot, but this is $125 (US) for $110 worth of terminators, $20 Libby, $20 Broodlord, $70 genestealers, and all with superior sculpts to what is currently on market, as well as the game board stuff. So it's about half off what everything would be individually.

The problem with that assessment, is that it is based off of what GW themselves tell you those models are worth. Just because GW sells Terminators for $50 a box, doesn't mean they really are worth that much.

Folks, do not completely despair over the fact that it is sold out from their website. This has been their tactic for some time with limited products: only very small number is reserved for direct order, which predictably sell out quickly, this causes people to panic and rush out to any other source to find a copy and buy it.

Even Dreadfleet sold out pretty quickly from their webstore. Then unsold copies languished out in gaming stores for months...and Stormclaw, which sold out super-quick, my FLGS has like six unsold copies.

 Davylove21 wrote:
Excellent, find out about this, count my lucky stars, sold out already.

At least there will be a new influx of the Terminators on ebay.

wander in to your local GW next week and I'm sure there will be a fair number in stock (and probably in independents that don't do online too)

Backfire wrote:
Folks, do not completely despair over the fact that it is sold out from their website. This has been their tactic for some time with limited products: only very small number is reserved for direct order, which predictably sell out quickly, this causes people to panic and rush out to any other source to find a copy and buy it.

Even Dreadfleet sold out pretty quickly from their webstore. Then unsold copies languished out in gaming stores for months...and Stormclaw, which sold out super-quick, my FLGS has like six unsold copies.

I think my area must have an over abundance of enthusiasts because I very often see things sell out within a day of release. I never even saw a copy of Stormclaw despite going to my FLGS and my local GW store the day after it was released, they both sold out on the first day. The Imperial Knight was gone within minutes of opening on Saturday morning.

The only reason I hold any hope for Space Hulk is that it costs $190AUD which may put it out of the reach of some impulse buyers. But then I myself am not sure I'm willing to pay that much for it anyway

My store still has 2 copies of Stormclaw and it draws the largest 40k crowd I've seen in a lot of stores.

I'm glad to see "blame the fans, not the company" is still alive and well. Remember, the fans pay the bills, not the other way around. The latest financial details aren't "armchair investors" talking but pretty easy to follow sets of data that say GW ain't doin' so hot.

 TheKbob wrote:
My store still has 2 copies of Stormclaw and it draws the largest 40k crowd I've seen in a lot of stores.

The funny thing is... I never see a lot of people in my local GW and the local FLGS has a lot of people but it's mostly non-40k players, so I don't know who's going out and buying up all this junk But I asked the owner of the local GW and he had several copies of Stormclaw and they all sold out super fast... he bought 2 himself. He also bought 4 Knights himself (though only 1 at launch). So maybe that's the problem, the store owner is an addict who buys all his own stock

This game looks so cool! Almost seems like the perfect way to fill that 40K lust if you don't have time for a full game etc.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's kind of annoying that they let folks buy 3 copies at a time. All they're gonna do with it is bung it on eBay and jack the price up.

Guilty as charged

Seriously, though, don't blame people like me - blame GW's idiotic sales policy that puts a hugely popular game on a limited sale.

I'm doing the same thing I did with dreadfleet: buy a few copies, paint them up, sell them on some time next summer, make some cash.

Actually, I do blame 'people' like you.

Its a free market. Suck it up.

If GW didn't artficially inflate demand by under supplying the market with a pitifully small production run, price gouging ebay touters wouldn't be a problem.

What's pitifully small the o' great seer? By my rough estimation thats over 500 pallets of games which is a big commitment of resources and space.

The last run they made of Spulk was 70,000 units.

I would assume that this one is the same or maybe a bit more.

No other manufacturer will make similar speciality games in these numbers. The only ones that will come close are Kickstarter backed games with the capital up front. Zombiecide 3 had 12,000 backers for example.

No not artificial scarcity but massive popularity vs the need to keep risk of further cost exposure to a minimum.

That this happen while turnover is dropping is commendable as it does represent a risk, something that GW have been shying away from with their products.

Just about got an order in on time. The set will probably go away for Christmas, but Icestorm will tide me over until then. Do glad to have managed to get a copy after 5 years of wanting it.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


wander in to your local GW next week and I'm sure there will be a fair number in stock (and probably in independents that don't do online too)

Yeah. That 60 mile round trip to the store that's closed on the day of the week I get chance to go.

#Reasons-for-shopping-online

No SH for my son for xmas then. Whatever miniature game set he gets now certainly won't be from GW.

Garukadon wrote:
Glad I decided to pull the trigger and pre-order mine.

There was people complaining that they wish they still sold Space Hulk in stores, and if it ever came back they'd buy it.

Then there was groans for this coming back. The people who scored a box through ebay or whatever, and paid more than full retail.

Now it's sold out and there are more groans.

I see lots of questions trying to make sense of GW's business strategies, and suggestions to do things better.

What I find funny, is all the fans ( customer base here ) who love to do the groaning, complaining, armchair quarter backing, day after day, year after year. It's not GW guys, it's all of you. Nothing will make you happy. GW could give away free minis, paints, or whatever, and you'd all still find a way to complain ( yes it's true! I can hear the argument of "It's way over due, shoulda done this a long time ago!" ).

Learn how to be happy fella's. Then ya'll might start enjoying the hobby again.

Personally it's not a groan. I truly would like to own a copy of this game. It looks cool and would probably have gotten me back into the universe of 40k for a bit anyway. At the price they are asking I will have to say no thanks, at the sheer stupidity of a limited release I won't even have the time to talk myself info it and save up some cash.

I guess I'll get something like Super Dungeon Hero's for $35 less.

Saw it was unable to pre order online so swung by my local GW after work today, turns out he can't even put one aside for me because demand has been so high, guess I'll just wait another 5 or so years before it's re re released.

This "limited edition" malarkey they have going on is just plain ridiculous, why not make a special limited edition on with added bonuses and release the standard one for long term sales like they did with DV?

Misery loves company has never been truer as it is here on this site. "Please let me gripe and complain, even though it won't change much, but it'll make me feel better..." . And it's in the hopes that others who are down and depressed like them will join them in their misery and cry in their beers.

GW is not a perfect business, yes they can do better. If they never do, oh well, it's not worth tirelessly complaining about. If your so hell bent on change, do something about it besides coming on here and trying to prove your points over and over and over and over... We get it, your not happy. Guess what, find something that does make you happy.

Try this. The next time you make a purchase, try to recognize if it causes remorse, guilt, or dissatisfaction. If your purchase doesn't make you feel good about your decision, than something is wrong. Like I said, go find something that makes you happy. Continuing to do something and expecting a different result.. "One day this hobby will make me happy..." . And if you find yourself constantly coming back to this site to complain... Well guys, it's time to move on. I speak for myself and maybe others if they want, but I get the message. I got it like last year.

No one cares if your dissatisfied. I"m just trying to enjoy my hobby, come here to enhance it, learn something new, see what other hobbyists are doing. It's not GW that is ruining my experience, it's the constant complaining and oh poor is me attitudes. Time to get it together fellas, really.

Garukadon wrote:
Misery loves company has never been truer as it is here on this site. "Please let me gripe and complain, even though it won't change much, but it'll make me feel better..." . And it's in the hopes that others who are down and depressed like them will join them in their misery and cry in their beers.

GW is not a perfect business, yes they can do better. If they never do, oh well, it's not worth tirelessly complaining about. If your so hell bent on change, do something about it besides coming on here and trying to prove your points over and over and over and over... We get it, your not happy. Guess what, find something that does make you happy.

Try this. The next time you make a purchase, try to recognize if it causes remorse, guilt, or dissatisfaction. If your purchase doesn't make you feel good about your decision, than something is wrong. Like I said, go find something that makes you happy. Continuing to do something and expecting a different result.. "One day this hobby will make me happy..." . And if you find yourself constantly coming back to this site to complain... Well guys, it's time to move on. I speak for myself and maybe others if they want, but I get the message. I got it like last year.

No one cares if your dissatisfied. I"m just trying to enjoy my hobby, come here to enhance it, learn something new, see what other hobbyists are doing. It's not GW that is ruining my experience, it's the constant complaining and oh poor is me attitudes. Time to get it together fellas, really.

Which would be a valid point on most of the "antiGW" threads on GW, but this thread seemed to be people full of enthusiasm for a GW product - it's just been made in such short supply, they can't get it.

Surely a company with a brain would happily sell out then make another much smaller production run, followed by another if there was still demand. In that run up to xmas it would make an excellent present. Shame they won't. Such poor sighted management.