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Jihadin wrote: I did..I use acronym and spelled it out for you all....now use your Google Fu.
But what the does that mean sir!
Is it foreshadowing that The Boots™, despite what Obama said in the past, will be stomping back in the mideast?
Means the frame work is or going back to being emplaced.
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Pentagon/DoD do not take it upon themselves to move a Division HQ unit to another country.
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1) American tax payer funded missiles are being used to destroy stuff that American taxes paid for (equipment captured by ISIL) The last time America destroyed its own stuff was the civil war
2) Assad, the greatest threat to the world , is now not the greatest threat to the world. Technically, we're on his side.
3) The rebel groups that we supported, are now the bad guys
I'll address a few of these.
1: I really don't think there's anything really confusing about this one. If our own stuff falls into the hands of our enemies, I think it's better to destroy our own stuff then just let our enemies have it and use it. It's not like, "Oh, our enemies have stolen some of our stuff, but we shouldn't destroy it now because it's our stuff!" Especially when the stuff we are talking about it military vehicles and weapons.
2: We're only on his side in the sense that we're both fighting ISIS. There are more than two sides here though.
3: This isn't really true. Although I believe McCain made a comment about wanting to arm ISIS, there are quite a few other more moderate, secular militias such as the Free Syrian Army that some Americans wanted to support. These militias still exist and still oppose both Assad and ISIS. We've still been discussing arming the FSA, who are not our enemies. Some people keep acting like ISIS is the only group opposing Assad, which isn't correct and never has been.
From what I've been reading, the FSA is down to its last 3 men, and 2 of those have got leg injuries! I exaggerate, of course, but they really have hit rock bottom, and can't be relied on as a serious fighting force.
That may be true, and if it is, that's unfortunate. They were making some pretty serious gains and could have been our best hope for an ally in the region.
I've heard that they're not in the fighting shape they were awhile back, but last I knew they were still holding some territory, they had just stopped gaining it. I guess we'll see what happens with them.
Let the Arabs sort it out themselves. It's not our problem. They aren't a national threat to us or the US. Tighten up home security, like we did in the IRA years. If you're a Western who feels the morale need to go out and help the innocents, that is a noble choice, but it is your choice. You know what could happen.
Sir Simon Jenkins pointed out on Channel 4 news last night that the Saudis have around about 700 jets that the West sold them, but are hardly contributing any to this conflict. They are happy to let the Western forces take the risks. We should stay out of it and say, you're mess, you sort it out. It's easy to say that West is to blame, but the Muslims of that region have never liked each other, all that his happened is that the masses now have access to tech & weapons that they never had before.
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Jihadin wrote: HQ unit from the 1st Infantry Division are moving into place CentCom and Iraq..frame work for a GLOC and ALOC to move combat troops in
Ground Logistical Operation Center
Aviation Logistical Operation Center
Having 1st I.D. HQ heading over there we are told not to put much stock into it. They are right now just going to assist the Iraqi Army in doing there job. 1st I.D. has been working in the region for a minute now so it wasn't that surprising. Obviously having something in place just in case is a pretty sound strategy. I don't feel like I'm going to be taking an all expenses paid vacation to Iraqistan so nobody else should either. The President is pretty adamant on the no boots on ground.
I also thought this was a big secret until it showed up all over my damn facebook feed. WAY to go Army... -___-
The topic was they were discussing was a female fighter pilot, not "bewbs"; at least until he reduced her and her accomplishments to a set of tits. No, it's not OK.
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Ouze wrote: The topic was a female fighter pilot, not "bewbs"; at least until he reduced her and her accomplishments to a set of tits. No, it's not OK.
I wasn't defending him. He did apologize as he should've, especially since it shows in that segment of the world, women can be fighter pilots. (even tho her own family disowned her?).
"The government has said it would seek separate Parliamentary approval for the extension of air strikes to Syria but reserved the right to act without consulting MPs in the event of a humanitarian emergency."
"Even though what he said was incredibly racist he preceded it with 'I'm not racist but...' so it's totally ok." If it had been a male fighter pilot there would have been zero jokes and no need for an apology to begin with.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
"Even though what he said was incredibly racist he preceded it with 'I'm not racist but...' so it's totally ok." If it had been a male fighter pilot there would have been zero jokes and no need for an apology to begin with.
Racist or sexist?
Want to be sure here because it sounded "sexist" to me. There is now a price on her head.
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Medium of Death wrote: It's a good thing the UK has so much money lying about to be sticking its nose in to another conflict.
We're about 93 years too late to start worrying about the cost.
Oil was not that big of an issue back then
We're popping the refineries to put a hurt on their finance. I'm hoping ISIS doesn't starting blowing oil well heads like the first Gulf War
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replace starting with "start"
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No, but we still stuck our big British Empire oar in, and have continued to do so ever since, so we do have a moral obligation to help sort out the mess rather than walk away. Wether or not we are helping in the right way is a different matter, but we can't just walk away from the shitstorm we started and have continued to be involved in ever since.
insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
No, it's that we owe a responsibility to the innocent civilians of Iraq to do what we can to help protect them from the mess we started and continued every time we stuck our oar in for our own gain.
insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
Also it's amazing how annoyed we are at IS in Iraq considering we destabilised the country and let Sunni Muslims face discrimination which allowed IS to garner support.
Lets not pretend this is a humanitarian effort.
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Last time I checked the intent was to bomb IS positions, not randomly bombing the whole country. Prior to that it was stable, but not exactly safe given Sadams thing for bombing and gassing Shias, marsh Arabs and any other group he didn't like. We can't just walk away and say "oh well. Sort it out yourselves"
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
Also it's amazing how annoyed we are at IS in Iraq considering we destabilised the country and let Sunni Muslims face discrimination which allowed IS to garner support.
Lets not pretend this is a humanitarian effort.
I'm sure the Nazi Empire would have been quite a stable place if they had won WW2. Totalitarian governments tend to be stable.
Doesn't mean we were wrong to rip the Nazi's a new one and that seeing the Iraq war through till the affair is actually done isn't a good idea. Its leaving early that really causes destabilization.
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"Even though what he said was incredibly racist he preceded it with 'I'm not racist but...' so it's totally ok." If it had been a male fighter pilot there would have been zero jokes and no need for an apology to begin with.
Racist or sexist?
Want to be sure here because it sounded "sexist" to me. There is now a price on her head.
That was the first thing I thought. She has a lot of courage to be willing to take that much risk, since she is more highlighted than her male counterparts.
Steve steveson wrote:Last time I checked the intent was to bomb IS positions, not randomly bombing the whole country. Prior to that it was stable, but not exactly safe given Sadams thing for bombing and gassing Shias, marsh Arabs and any other group he didn't like. We can't just walk away and say "oh well. Sort it out yourselves"
Assuming that they're just standing out in the desert with big "drop bomb here" signs then we'll be fine. You're also forgetting that we already walked away. Why walk back in and stoke future hatred? I see value in offering humanitarian aid, rather than nothing at all.
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I'm sure the Nazi Empire would have been quite a stable place if they had won WW2. Totalitarian governments tend to be stable.
Doesn't mean we were wrong to rip the Nazi's a new one and that seeing the Iraq war through till the affair is actually done isn't a good idea. Its leaving early that really causes destabilization.
does that mean sir!
I exaggerate, of course, but they really have hit rock bottom, and can't be relied on as a serious fighting force. 
