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2014/09/15 10:25:23
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
If games journalists are using attacks on Sarkeesian to hold up a shield of misogynism that defends against other alleged shenanigans, would it not be rather clever to stop attacking Sarkeesian, thus depriving these journalists of their shield?
This would also have the benefit of not seeming to be misogynist.
Kilkrazy wrote: If games journalists are using attacks on Sarkeesian to hold up a shield of misogynism that defends against other alleged shenanigans, would it not be rather clever to stop attacking Sarkeesian, thus depriving these journalists of their shield?
This would also have the benefit of not seeming to be misogynist.
Funnily enough that is happening on other forums. A certain someone is called Literally Who 1, and another certain someone is called Literally Who 2.
Kilkrazy wrote: If games journalists are using attacks on Sarkeesian to hold up a shield of misogynism that defends against other alleged shenanigans, would it not be rather clever to stop attacking Sarkeesian, thus depriving these journalists of their shield?
This would also have the benefit of not seeming to be misogynist.
Offcourse it would be, and if I was supreme overlord of the internet I would make that terrible vocal minority drop dead for doing it. Sadly, there is no such thing as controlling everyone on the internet and vocal minorities will always be a thing. This is not me excusing misogyny but just sharing a little fact about the internet and people being dickholes.
The industry side keeps drawing the misogyny thing into this debate, not the other way around. They are seperate and should be looked at that way. I don't think I've ever condoned it but you seem pretty adamant that we are all women haters in this topic.
2014/09/15 14:10:12
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
We can criticize what they do, but that does not make us misogynists
Its like if Critic twilight, I am attacking her work, her abilities, her thoughts, her actions and her ideals, but not her specifically.
Just because it may seem that way does not mean i a misogynist
The whole idea is that people think we are attacking them because they are woman. I am not, I am merely saying they are hypocrites and attack us without warning and use others as a shield, and their gender as one.
That is deplorable and against everything this industry stands for.
Soladrin wrote: The industry side keeps drawing the misogyny thing into this debate, not the other way around.
Mechanical Crow and all the others that keeps bringing everything back to “SJW” must be part of the industry then. I mean, I tried to get this topic about corruption, I really did (see here and here). Did I say anything about misogyny when the article quoted was criticizing a woman? No. Nor did anyone else. Did the Gamergate people follow my advice and start talking only about real corruption? No, of course not. They wanted to talk about how the journalists insulted them (that is not corruption), about how “SJW” were terrible (still not corruption), and tons of other stuff that had nothing to do with corruption. Is corruption so boring to talk about, or what?
But really, Mechanical Crow is certainly the worse offender, he makes it so obvious he does not care about corruption on the slightest and only social issues matter to him, yet all of you keep pretending you do not notice it and only the journalists push social issues. Damn. Makes you look bad.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/15 16:25:36
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
no matter what we do there always be someone attacking them.
Also on Antia
I criticize her ideas and her thesis. Using her very bias thesis is not extremely fair to any of the movement.
Mechanical Crow and all the others that keeps bringing everything back to “SJW” must be part of the industry then. I mean, I tried to get this topic about corruption, I really did (see here and here). Did I say anything about misogyny when the article quoted was criticizing a woman? No. Nor did anyone else. Did the Gamergate people follow my advice and start talking only about real corruption? No, of course not. They wanted to talk about how the journalists insulted them (that is not corruption), about how “SJW” were terrible (still not corruption), and tons of other stuff that had nothing to do with corruption. Is corruption so boring to talk about, or what?
But really, Mechanical Crow is certainly the worse offender, he makes it so obvious he does not care about corruption on the slightest and only social issues matter to him, yet all of you keep pretending you do not notice it and only the journalists push social issues. Damn. Makes you look bad.
Personally there are lots of problems in the movement. I think the SJWS have only come to the defense, and I simply ignore them and I am annoyed by it.
But I target the journalists and their corruption on both sides.
Where a journalist can threaten someones entire career, and she is also a SJW. She has specifically said she will destroy someones career and I find that deplorable and she should be removed from the industry. Her unprofessional ism is a poison to the community.
I think attacking a large community is stupid.
I think that using minorities as a shield is dumb.
I thin antia taking over the situation and just happened to post her video the same week that these events blew up was no conicendence, as she is an adviser to several SEVERAL articles and journalists.
I think Zoe Quinns actions are dumb,
I think posting someones information all over the internet is horrible. And the Journalists have been doing this. From attacking youtubers, to attacking the public for speaking out.
I think blocking people because they disagree with you is beyond stupid.
I think the out right censoring and harassment of those who speak out is deplorable and should not be allowed in this industry.
There are so many things wrong in this situation.
There is corruption and then there is immaturity. Where a writer in the games media can write their thoughts with expanding on their biases, without clearly saying this is an editorial or this is news.
I think a news reporter should not go in with an agenda in an interview.
Like that blizzard interview. I think attacking an artistic view is stupid. Oh but she is wearing revealing clothing yeah yeah. Kill La Kill all the characters wear revealing clothing and no one really raised a fuss and SJWs didn't attack it for having women in revealing clothing.
As long as it is equal on both sides for having revealing clothing for both genders, it is fine.
But saying that there are more women killed in video games or used as shock value more than male counterparts clearly shows their ignorance of video games.
There are so many examples of sexism in games that you aren't picking the right fight. Now representation of female characters, I can get behind that, where females are shown to be weak and just there.
I want strong female characters. Not some white badass guy with a gun.
I think that we have gotten to the point in games where there has to change. And so does the media, the media has to grow up. And review a game like a book, disect everything, look at it for its own merits and not to compare it to other games, unless otherwise notted to be a sequel to a game.
So far the media has gotten to the point where it attacks anyone it thinks as bad, and is over protective of females. But I think that is sexist. What you don't think this woman can defend herself. You don't think she can handle it herself.
Do you really think she needs your help? You are just making yourself look like fools.
The entire idea of calling us misogynists is false. We are not misogynists. They are. They defend this woman but attack their consumer base, which is multicultural and multicolored, and consist of many faces and genders. Just because some are bad cookies, does not mean you can attack them all and generalize them all into this one particular group. You cannot decry an entire group of people because of a few people, that is wrong, and that is so wrong. Just because one is bad doesn't mean they can all burn.
They are not there to fit your narrative. It is time for them to get off their high horse. And anyone in this thread. You are not higher or better than me, or anyone else.
You may write articles and this may be your passion, but it is our passion to play games that drives us forward. Whether you write an article on how good a game does not stop me from playing games that you rated as bad. Just because this game lacks a single feature that is among other games does not make it any worse that other games. Just because my game does not have fancy graphics or multiplayer does not mean it is worse than your game.
These articles should get rid of this stupid rating system, and just replace it with recommendations. Because what does a point scale tell us? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. If a game is good, and receives a 4/10 on igns scale because it does not have good graphics, or multiplayer. Does that make the game worse? No. It doesn't it is up to the artist and aesthic of the game.
I am tired of them ratting always on either only one thing and not multiple things. Be fair to these games, and balance your review, you can just focus on one thing. Because if you do the game will suffer because of that.
That is the same reason why people hated diablo 3, because they all focused on a single few things and it made the experience horrible for them. And yet that doesn't mean its a bad game, it was just hated because people only looked a certain number of things.
Look at the bigger picture instead of narrowing your mind. To an open mind, all doors remain unlatched. A close mind, these doors are locked.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/15 16:38:55
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
So, what about Mechanical Crow. Is he helping expose corruption, or is he pushing his own agenda? If he is diverting attention away from corruption, why not acknowledge that?
Asherian Command wrote: I thin antia taking over the situation and just happened to post her video the same week that these events blew up was no conicendence, as she is an adviser to several SEVERAL articles and journalists.
Conspiracy much? Anita said she would release a series of video about tropes on women in video game. That is exactly what she did. Whether or not you agree with her is something else entirely, but she has been totally honest about it up front, and is not linked in any way to journalists corruption.
Also will you tell me next that journalists are the only one that keeps talking about Anita? Because sure as hell I did not mention her, yet you decided to talk about her.
Asherian Command wrote: I think a news reporter should not go in with an agenda in an interview.
Like that blizzard interview. I think attacking an artistic view is stupid. Oh but she is wearing revealing clothing yeah yeah. Kill La Kill all the characters wear revealing clothing and no one really raised a fuss and SJWs didn't attack it for having women in revealing clothing.
As long as it is equal on both sides for having revealing clothing for both genders, it is fine.
I think that question was great. I think trying to defend an artist's choice to adhere to the common trend of the time and present this as if you were fighting for the right of artists to be subversive is hilariously misplaced. And I think even pretending that the clothing for male and female character are on par in HotS is abysmally wrong, and could certainly not have been stated in good faith. I also think this is totally about social issues and not at all about corruption. I think we do have a thread dedicated to female representation in video game and that you should post your concerns over there. Because I am pretty sure that journalist did not ask those questions because he was corrupted by someone else paying him to ask this question, but because he had his own opinions and wanted to make them heard. Which is not corruption.
How often did I call you, or other Gamergater, misogynists? For reference, I would like to know. Is this number above 0?
Asherian Command wrote: Whether you write an article on how good a game does not stop me from playing games that you rated as bad.
So why do you care so much?
Asherian Command wrote: Just because this game lacks a single feature that is among other games does not make it any worse that other games. Just because my game does not have fancy graphics or multiplayer does not mean it is worse than your game.
These articles should get rid of this stupid rating system, and just replace it with recommendations. Because what does a point scale tell us? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. If a game is good, and receives a 4/10 on igns scale because it does not have good graphics, or multiplayer. Does that make the game worse? No. It doesn't it is up to the artist and aesthic of the game.
I am tired of them ratting always on either only one thing and not multiple things. Be fair to these games, and balance your review, you can just focus on one thing. Because if you do the game will suffer because of that.
Okay, you realize nothing of this has any link to journalist corruption, and it all boils down to personal preference?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/15 17:14:11
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
So, what about Mechanical Crow. Is he helping expose corruption, or is he pushing his own agenda? If he is diverting attention away from corruption, why not acknowledge that?
Asherian Command wrote: I thin antia taking over the situation and just happened to post her video the same week that these events blew up was no conicendence, as she is an adviser to several SEVERAL articles and journalists.
Conspiracy much? Anita said she would release a series of video about tropes on women in video game. That is exactly what she did. Whether or not you agree with her is something else entirely, but she has been totally honest about it up front, and is not linked in any way to journalists corruption.
Also will you tell me next that journalists are the only one that keeps talking about Anita? Because sure as hell I did not mention her, yet you decided to talk about her.
Asherian Command wrote: I think a news reporter should not go in with an agenda in an interview.
Like that blizzard interview. I think attacking an artistic view is stupid. Oh but she is wearing revealing clothing yeah yeah. Kill La Kill all the characters wear revealing clothing and no one really raised a fuss and SJWs didn't attack it for having women in revealing clothing.
As long as it is equal on both sides for having revealing clothing for both genders, it is fine.
I think that question was great. I think trying to defend an artist's choice to adhere to the common trend of the time and present this as if you were fighting for the right of artists to be subversive is hilariously misplaced. And I think even pretending that the clothing for male and female character are on par in HotS is abysmally wrong, and could certainly not have been stated in good faith. I also think this is totally about social issues and not at all about corruption. I think we do have a thread dedicated to female representation in video game and that you should post your concerns over there. Because I am pretty sure that journalist did not ask those questions because he was corrupted by someone else paying him to ask this question, but because he had his own opinions and wanted to make them heard. Which is not corruption.
How often did I call you, or other Gamergater, misogynists? For reference, I would like to know. Is this number above 0?
Asherian Command wrote: Whether you write an article on how good a game does not stop me from playing games that you rated as bad.
So why do you care so much?
Asherian Command wrote: Just because this game lacks a single feature that is among other games does not make it any worse that other games. Just because my game does not have fancy graphics or multiplayer does not mean it is worse than your game.
These articles should get rid of this stupid rating system, and just replace it with recommendations. Because what does a point scale tell us? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. If a game is good, and receives a 4/10 on igns scale because it does not have good graphics, or multiplayer. Does that make the game worse? No. It doesn't it is up to the artist and aesthic of the game.
I am tired of them ratting always on either only one thing and not multiple things. Be fair to these games, and balance your review, you can just focus on one thing. Because if you do the game will suffer because of that.
Okay, you realize nothing of this has any link to journalist corruption, and it all boils down to personal preference?
I swear everytime you comment you miss the point.
I think you need to read your statements. But I will do that for you.
Conspiracy much? Anita said she would release a series of video about tropes on women in video game. That is exactly what she did. Whether or not you agree with her is something else entirely, but she has been totally honest about it up front, and is not linked in any way to journalists corruption.
Also will you tell me next that journalists are the only one that keeps talking about Anita? Because sure as hell I did not mention her, yet you decided to talk about her.
I think releasing a video during a big scandal is a bit suspicious. It may of been suspicious.
I think that question was great. I think trying to defend an artist's choice to adhere to the common trend of the time and present this as if you were fighting for the right of artists to be subversive is hilariously misplaced. And I think even pretending that the clothing for male and female character are on par in HotS is abysmally wrong, and could certainly not have been stated in good faith. I also think this is totally about social issues and not at all about corruption. I think we do have a thread dedicated to female representation in video game and that you should post your concerns over there. Because I am pretty sure that journalist did not ask those questions because he was corrupted by someone else paying him to ask this question, but because he had his own opinions and wanted to make them heard. Which is not corruption.
Its an interview yes, but why the hell are you asking those questions. The interviewer literally had an agenda the whole time, they wanted to hear it, but it doesn't relate in the slightest about the game they are there for.
I do not think it is corruption but it is unethical as a journalist do that if you are reporting on news. If you do not label the interview as an editorial then you cannot make those statements. If it is an editorial YOU CAN.
LEARN THE DIFFERENCE.
How often did I call you, or other Gamergater, misogynists? For reference, I would like to know. Is this number above 0?
Who says you are? Lots of people on twitter have been calling me one.
You need to read and not assert your dumb opinion in. Because so far your statement makes no sense, do you think I was talking to you? I quoted you, but I wasn't necessarily talking directly to you. I was addressing everyone here.
So why do you care so much?
Because I am a video game designer. I will have to deal with this clowns. So do not think I will not have to and I do not care. I will have to work with these peoples.
Okay, you realize nothing of this has any link to journalist corruption, and it all boils down to personal preference?
No It is because this media is using its powers to stop certain games from publishing because of sexy outfits, or because they don't have as many things as they want.
And they actually do a lot to damage a game's credibility. This media does have a leash on the game developers if it is a small company.
Both sides seem flawed. One side for using misogyny as a shield, and the other side for fueling the fire with 'SJW' and similar.
I disagree.
There are many heads of GamerGate, there is the anti-corruption and anti-idiot media and then there are the ant-sjws. The anti-corruption peeps, like me, really don't care about the SJW's we don't blame them for the whole mess we see the bigger picture.
WE are not using gamergate to further our careers.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/15 17:38:07
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
Asherian Command wrote: I think releasing a video during a big scandal is a bit suspicious. It may of been suspicious.
Why? How does it change anything about anything? She does not even use ads iirc!
Asherian Command wrote: Its an interview yes, but why the hell are you asking those questions.
Why, because he cares about the answer.
Asherian Command wrote: The interviewer literally had an agenda the whole time, they wanted to hear it, but it doesn't relate in the slightest about the game they are there for.
Whether or not the female character will be sexualized in Heroes of the Storm does not relate in the slightest about Heroes of the Storm?
For instance, Strife does not sexualize its female characters nearly as much as Heroes of Newerth do, and this is one of the many reasons why I like the former more than the latter. Please do note the “one among many”. So I would personally be interested in hearing if Blizzard was planning to sexualize its female characters or not. Now I know.
Asherian Command wrote: I do not think it is corruption but it is unethical as a journalist do that if you are reporting on news. If you do not label the interview as an editorial then you cannot make those statements. If it is an editorial YOU CAN.
LEARN THE DIFFERENCE.
Damn, applying your definition of “interview” to political interview would be quite horrible . He was asking questions about the game, it was an interview. An interview about the game.
Asherian Command wrote: Who says you are? Lots of people on twitter have been calling me one.
Are you hiding behind their cries to misogyny to dismiss my criticism? Are they your shield ?
Asherian Command wrote: No It is because this media is using its powers to stop certain games from publishing because of sexy outfits, or because they don't have as many things as they want.
It is about you not being happy with how critics rate your work. Damn. Deal with it, seriously.
Asherian Command wrote: This media does have a leash on the game developers if it is a small company.
And if it is a big company, it is the other way around.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, for the record, you did start the conversation on Anita, and you started the conversation on skimpy outfits too. This is pretty important to note.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/15 17:45:20
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
Are you hiding behind their cries to misogyny to dismiss my criticism? Are they your shield ?
With that single line you have completely lost your credibility and arguments in the matter. That argument is so flawed I cannot believe it was even said.
It is about you not being happy with how critics rate your work. Damn. Deal with it, seriously.
So, you think only one side has flaws?
No both sides are flawed
Also, for the record, you did start the conversation on Anita, and you started the conversation on skimpy outfits too. This is pretty important to note.
I was merely giving examples. If you don't see them as examples then thats your own fault.
These examples are very flimsy because they are the only things I could think at the time. but at the same time they are not flimsy they are relatively strong.
They show a few things.
One they show an agenda, and they show that there might be a connection how you refuse to see that connection i don't know at all.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/15 17:51:33
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
Okay, let us focus on that. When learning about a new moba, there are many things that will either make me enjoy it or not enjoy it. Sexualization of the female characters is one of them. I am therefore interested in learning about that. This journalist is getting information for me (and his or her other reader) on this new moba. Why, why on earth should he not ask this question?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/15 17:56:16
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Okay, let us focus on that. When learning about a new moba, there are many things that will either make me enjoy it or not enjoy it. Sexualization of the female characters is one of them. I am therefore interested in learning about that. This journalist is getting information for me (and his or her other reader) on this new moba. Why, why on earth should he not ask this question?
So instead of what changes it and makes it a different moba you are focused on aesthics? Instead of I don't know what changes it and makes it look different from other mobas?
That is extremely flawed.
If really want my thoughts on that. Sexualization is bad, but so is the same thing over and over again. In fact it is even worse. That is stagnation and that dries up the scene and makes it inhospitable.
I swear you have one mode and that is stay offended and not moving away from the argument and only focusing on gender misrepresentation and ignoring all counter arguments to your statements *sigh*
Que insulted poster below.
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/15 18:03:01
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
Asherian Command wrote: So instead of what changes it and makes it a different moba you are focused on aesthics?
Not focused. Focused would imply that this is the main thing I care about. I emphasized it was one among many, even though you refuse to see it.
Asherian Command wrote: Instead of I don't know what changes it and makes it look different from other mobas?
I care about that too. Who said I did not?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/15 18:04:30
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: For instance, Strife does not sexualize its female characters nearly as much as Heroes of Newerth do, and this is one of the many reasons why I like the former more than the latter. Please do note the “one among many”.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/15 18:08:36
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
Regardless of the issue of those who continue to misconstrue the argument. It does seem like at the time advertisers are pulling out of several websites.
2014/09/15 18:10:10
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Regardless of the issue of those who continue to misconstrue the argument. It does seem like at the time advertisers are pulling out of several websites.
I've been seeing that. Looks like mass emails are starting to work extremely well.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
2014/09/15 18:16:31
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
This is some discussion you started, and it is completely on-topic. It is about the issues you have about game journalism. I wanted to know about many aspects of the game, including the sexualization of female character aspect. Why was the journalist wrong for asking that information that was one of (as in not the only one) the things I wanted to know?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2014/09/15 18:48:51
Subject: The Gamergate, Scandal, Conspiracy, and Journalism Corruption
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Regardless of the issue of those who continue to misconstrue the argument. It does seem like at the time advertisers are pulling out of several websites.
I've been seeing that. Looks like mass emails are starting to work extremely well.
Its that and the massive decline in views on those sites. As vocal as they are, the people against GamerGate represent a very small portion of the interest in gaming. Plus when your demographic is gamers that buy games, not tumblr hug boxes that might buy games, it seems kind of stupid to tell the majority they are gakky people and they are dying. Its like having a warhammer page that says warhammer players are gross misogynists and they are a dying breed, how idiotic is that?
And of course, like every other "feminists ruin everything" argument presented so far, this one is laughably wrong. But I doubt there's any point in trying to explain why to you, since you'll just complain and label me a "SJW" as if that's a proper substitute for a real argument.
Right back at you. You're defending fraud, rape, racketeering, corruption, conflicts of interest, unethical practices, mass censorship, and the pushing of the agenda that would stagnate art and police thought under the misguided guise of what? White Knighting third wave feminism? You're backing something that looks more like a misandry movement and resembles a hate group with the same built in fallacies and selection bias's rather then a group interested in equality.
Im asking to stop with the intellectually dishonest articles and people profiteering from nepotism, corruption and incestuous relationships. Im also against the hypocrisy of the social justice warriors that many of the journalists claim to be or are employees for, any group that can spout racism and sexism in the same breath as calling someone else those same things doesn't deserve to be listened to.
Soladrin wrote: I'm sorry, what? All the allegations against Zoe have nothing to do with her gender.
That is quite interesting. Now explain to me how the allegation about Anita are linked to corrupt journalism?.
The quick version to your question: Anita is heavily promoted by gaming journalists, Anita jumps in on Zoe post with false death threats, gets massive attention for her new video that was faultering, Journalists run story as if death threats are real and ignore the evidence they were false nor post anything afterward the are proven false, Anita is employed by a PR company with some of those same journalists and has heavy connections to every journalist. PR company proudly shows that it pushed the "gamers are dead" articles (who use Anita as a shield) right on their website.
It shows they wont report on anything that will hurt their personal investments or relationships, or are told they will be fired if they do by people that have personal investments or relationships.
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