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 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 namiel wrote:
So for my 1000th post I am going to climb up on my



Until you raise your right hand, take an oath, and back that oath up with your actions. STFU

The end.

Huh? Wadda ya mean?

If you have no personal experiance as to who, what, where, when, why, and how of the military you have NO place to comment on it. Dirty civilians think they have a clue when all it is, is speculation and what they hear on the f'ing news. So if you havent been there/done that. Keep remarks to yourself and stay out of the conversation.

Those of you with an active page 2 or a dd214. Feel free to comment

This is why people hate the military often. Im sorry, but just becaused you served does not mean you are inherantly better then someone. It does not give your opinions more weight or more gratidude and it should not give you a free pass to be a duece.
Im sorry, but this annoys me, Veterans should not be untouchable like so many think they are. They can be asses just like anyone else. And should be called out on it.

I think I have to agree here.

 curran12 wrote:
Remember when being in the military involved that 'honor' thing? Yeah, thanks for crapping all over that, namiel.

This is something my Gramps said
"There is no Honor in the Military, Because there isnt Honor in killing ever. You do your duty, So you know that you will have a family to come home to and not a smoking wreck. The Military is duty, that is all really"

 -Shrike- wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 namiel wrote:
So for my 1000th post I am going to climb up on my



Until you raise your right hand, take an oath, and back that oath up with your actions. STFU

The end.

Huh? Wadda ya mean?

If you have no personal experiance as to who, what, where, when, why, and how of the military you have NO place to comment on it. Dirty civilians think they have a clue when all it is, is speculation and what they hear on the f'ing news. So if you havent been there/done that. Keep remarks to yourself and stay out of the conversation.

Those of you with an active page 2 or a dd214. Feel free to comment

This is why people hate the military often. Im sorry, but just becaused you served does not mean you are inherantly better then someone. It does not give your opinions more weight or more gratidude and it should not give you a free pass to be a duece.
Im sorry, but this annoys me, Veterans should not be untouchable like so many think they are. They can be asses just like anyone else. And should be called out on it.

I think I have to agree here.

Very much so.

 Frazzled wrote:

And no one asnwered MY question. WHat qualifies you to judge if wanting to kill Nazis is bad? In other cultures there would be no problem with that.

I think that my post did try to answer that.

Which one, can you restate?

hotsauceman1 wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 namiel wrote:
So for my 1000th post I am going to climb up on my



Until you raise your right hand, take an oath, and back that oath up with your actions. STFU

The end.

Huh? Wadda ya mean?

If you have no personal experiance as to who, what, where, when, why, and how of the military you have NO place to comment on it. Dirty civilians think they have a clue when all it is, is speculation and what they hear on the f'ing news. So if you havent been there/done that. Keep remarks to yourself and stay out of the conversation.

Those of you with an active page 2 or a dd214. Feel free to comment

This is why people hate the military often. Im sorry, but just becaused you served does not mean you are inherantly better then someone. It does not give your opinions more weight or more gratidude and it should not give you a free pass to be a duece.
Im sorry, but this annoys me, Veterans should not be untouchable like so many think they are. They can be asses just like anyone else. And should be called out on it.

Actually it does make my opinions and EXPERIANCE more weight when it comes to the military topic.

Platuan4th wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 namiel wrote:

If you have no personal experiance as to who, what, where, when, why, and how of the military you have NO place to comment on it. Dirty civilians think they have a clue when all it is, is speculation and what they hear on the f'ing news. So if you havent been there/done that. Keep remarks to yourself and stay out of the conversation.

Those of you with an active page 2 or a dd214. Feel free to comment

My Active Duty wife told me to pass on a message to you:

*ahem*

Shut the feth up, you're making the rest of us service members look bad.

*ahem* "wookies to the kitchen"

Yeah, that explains everything I need to know about you. Enjoy your yellow triangle of friendship and trip to the ignore list.

Good

Frazzled wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 namiel wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 namiel wrote:
So for my 1000th post I am going to climb up on my



Until you raise your right hand, take an oath, and back that oath up with your actions. STFU

The end.

Huh? Wadda ya mean?

If you have no personal experiance as to who, what, where, when, why, and how of the military you have NO place to comment on it. Dirty civilians think they have a clue when all it is, is speculation and what they hear on the f'ing news. So if you havent been there/done that. Keep remarks to yourself and stay out of the conversation.

Those of you with an active page 2 or a dd214. Feel free to comment

This is why people hate the military often. Im sorry, but just becaused you served does not mean you are inherantly better then someone. It does not give your opinions more weight or more gratidude and it should not give you a free pass to be a duece.
Im sorry, but this annoys me, Veterans should not be untouchable like so many think they are. They can be asses just like anyone else. And should be called out on it.

True that EXCEPT, if the thread itself is actually about why people would join the military. Then they are indeed more quallified to answer.

And no one asnwered MY question. WHat qualifies you to judge if wanting to kill Nazis is bad? In other cultures there would be no problem with that.

This is where experiance comes in handy. In the grand scheme of things wanting to kill or not doesnt make a bit of difference because its not up to you. Those who join because they have the hopes of killing someone wont last. If you join the military you better PRAY that you never have the displeasure of having to kill someone. No one joins to kill, those people end up becoming mass murderers.

At least 50% of the population is "mentally ill." Probably more. This just in, people are poor at handling their emotions.

 Frazzled wrote:
Which one, can you restate?

Here is the post:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/615468.page#7209522

In a nutshell:

Joining just because you want to kill people, even if killing them would result in good, is bad.
Joining because you want to do something good, even it it involves having to kill people, is okay.

I make no guarantee about how solid that logic is, but there it is

 namiel wrote:


Actually it does make my opinions and EXPERIANCE more weight when it comes to the military topic.

Is that like experience?

"Dude, you can't know how to spell. You've, like, not been there, man."

Not seeing why you're saying its bad, just that you're saying its bad.

 daedalus wrote:

 namiel wrote:


Actually it does make my opinions and EXPERIANCE more weight when it comes to the military topic.

Is that like experience?

"Dude, you can't know how to spell. You've, like, not been there, man."

FML its over, i can never post again because i spell for gak. Guess i better go back to killing people for fun............

MAybe it is the fact you said "Dirty Civilians?" or something like that.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 curran12 wrote:
Remember when being in the military involved that 'honor' thing? Yeah, thanks for crapping all over that, namiel.

This is something my Gramps said
"There is no Honor in the Military, Because there isnt Honor in killing ever. You do your duty, So you know that you will have a family to come home to and not a smoking wreck. The Military is duty, that is all really"

Your gramps is wrong.

 namiel wrote:

FML its over, i can never post again because i spell for gak. Guess i better go back to killing people for fun............

I'm just saying that I find your argument a nonsensical one along the lines of "You can't criticize art until you've been an artist."

Of course I find the premise of the OP a nonsensical one too. I'm really just here for the hate. The delicious, delicious hate.

 Frazzled wrote:
Not seeing why you're saying its bad, just that you're saying its bad.

It's bad for the same reason that it is bad to kill a 1 year old baby. "I want to kill [whatever]" is bad if you want to kill just because you want to kill.

If somebody is trying to attack you and you shoot them in self defense did you kill them because you wanted to kill them, or did you kill them because you were trying to stop an attack?

So my opinion is that "I want to kill [whatever] because I don't like them or what they did" is no valid reason that killing them is okay. Killing, especially in war, as a means to an end is different than having killing just to kill.

 daedalus wrote:

 namiel wrote:

FML its over, i can never post again because i spell for gak. Guess i better go back to killing people for fun............

I'm just saying that I find your argument a nonsensical one along the lines of "You can't criticize art until you've been an artist."

Of course I find the premise of the OP a nonsensical one too. I'm really just here for the hate. The delicious, delicious hate.

Just ike I cant critiize a movie until I made one or a video game until I made one Right?

 namiel wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 namiel wrote:


Actually it does make my opinions and EXPERIANCE more weight when it comes to the military topic.

Is that like experience?

"Dude, you can't know how to spell. You've, like, not been there, man."

FML its over, i can never post again because i spell for gak. Guess i better go back to killing people for fun............

Listen, I have 17,000+ posts. Unless you are willing to put in the time to get that kind of posting experience you need to leave the posting and the talking about posts to those who are willing to let the keyboard do the talking!

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
MAybe it is the fact you said "Dirty Civilians?" or something like that.

When people who have no idea of what is required of someone in the military and they like to speculate and elude to the fact that they are mentally ill for being willing to kill, kinda grinds my gears. So until someone has an idea of why we did what we did, what we had to do to survive then someone should keep their trap shut. Until you have stood there you truly have no idea why its done but to say we were mentally ill is a bit extreme. Help pack up your friends belongings as they are loaded into the back of a cargo plane in a metal box, then question why he/she did it.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 namiel wrote:

FML its over, i can never post again because i spell for gak. Guess i better go back to killing people for fun............

I'm just saying that I find your argument a nonsensical one along the lines of "You can't criticize art until you've been an artist."

Of course I find the premise of the OP a nonsensical one too. I'm really just here for the hate. The delicious, delicious hate.

Just ike I cant critiize a movie until I made one or a video game until I made one Right?

Well, more like a video game you have to pay for, yet can't criticize despite it constantly reminding you what an amazing game it is but you totally wouldn't understand.

On the plus side this is a dumb thread that Namiel like, really slammed forward the throttle on to the eventual threadlock.

WELL DONE EVERYONE