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2014/10/11 17:15:07
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
Did anybody else notice that Dark Mechanicum will be in HH4? And that HH5 is titled "Tempest?"
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2014/10/11 17:24:07
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
Could also be the lucifer pattern dreadnought mentioned in passing in the HH books. A few have speculated that this will be based off the space crusade dreadnought. As for the flyers, I heard a rumour that the orgus flyer is one of them. 100 internet points if you remember when the orgus flyers were first mentioned!
I hope the dreadnought isn't based on the Space Crusade Dread, that thing was awful, although looking at it I can see an updated version that would look sort of like an ED-209, but that hunched/bird positioning is already in the Vorax/Crusader. It would be neat to see a missile launcher arm for the Contemptor pattern.
Orgus Flyer FTW (maybe a Storm Talon conversion kit). I want a Hovertank made from a deodorant stick and a plastic spoon. I'm sure one of the next flyers is going to be the Ravenguard stealth flyer. Maybe they'll go big time and do the Stormbird/Warhawk.
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2014/10/11 17:27:56
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
Orgus Flyer FTW (maybe a Storm Talon conversion kit). I want a Hovertank made from a deodorant stick and a plastic spoon. I'm sure one of the next flyers is going to be the Ravenguard stealth flyer. Maybe they'll go big time and do the Stormbird/Warhawk.
I reckon the Jocasta pattern grav attack will be the updated version of the mk1 deodorant tank
2014/10/11 18:18:06
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
I reckon the Jocasta pattern grav attack will be the updated version of the mk1 deodorant tank
That would be mighty funny. I'm curious to see what other treats FW has in store for 2015 - the most recent batch of contemptors, knights, torsos, heads, and solar auxilla will probably take us through the end of the year, as far as releasing things.
Primarchs? So far we have from the traitor side
Angron
Fulgrim
Lorgar
Mortarion
Horus
We know Curze is on the way. Leaving Alpharius/Omegon, Peturabo from the first 3 books, and then Magnus from whatever series he's going to be in.
From the Loyalists, we've got
Ferrus Manus
Vulkan
Leaving Corax as the other Primarch from the Dropsite Massacre books, and Dorn from the 3rd book.
Fun times ahead!
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2014/10/11 20:11:22
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
I reckon the Jocasta pattern grav attack will be the updated version of the mk1 deodorant tank
That would be mighty funny. I'm curious to see what other treats FW has in store for 2015 - the most recent batch of contemptors, knights, torsos, heads, and solar auxilla will probably take us through the end of the year, as far as releasing things.
Primarchs? So far we have from the traitor side
Angron
Fulgrim
Lorgar
Mortarion
Horus
We know Curze is on the way. Leaving Alpharius/Omegon, Peturabo from the first 3 books, and then Magnus from whatever series he's going to be in.
From the Loyalists, we've got
Ferrus Manus
Vulkan
Leaving Corax as the other Primarch from the Dropsite Massacre books, and Dorn from the 3rd book.
Fun times ahead!
Also still missing Roboute, the Khan, the Lion, and Leman Russ from whatever series they're going to be in (poor poor neglected loyalists)
2014/10/11 20:32:13
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
The runes, daemonic elements, Chaotic stars, etc just scream Word Bearer. Whilst the Thousand Sons were into sorcery and such, they weren't overtly Chaotic.
Bronzefists42 wrote: In perfect honesty that Word Bearers Dark Apostle artwork has me worried. I absolutely LOVE the HH design flares and the more subtle signs of treachery. I'll be a bit sad if the traitors start hurtling back towards the god awful current 40k chaos aesthetic.
Honestly, I think the Chaos Aesthetic in that picture is great. I wish more of the stuff had that kind of quality to it!
Stuff like this. A gigantic distorted mess of evil cliches and spikes that make it look like it crawled off the cover of what Parent's groups think Heavy Metal albums look like. These guys are the biggest offenders IMO and honestly non space marine Chaos models usually look pretty great. Some people do a pretty good job pulling off chaos but Chaos Space marines should be extremely subtle and almost unadorned, barring cult marking carved or painted onto their armor. even the mutations are poorly handled.
2014/10/11 21:17:15
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
So, I've seen a couple people mention "Word Bearer" for this guy. And that's probably what he is with all the inscriptions all across the armor.
But part of me wants to say it's a Thousand Sons unit. Remember pre-heresy they were red and silver, as well.
They're red and gold in the one FW art piece and one painted FW model actually. And they're a lighter red. and all then chaosy marks, all the runes etc are all motifs from the WB so far. Its definitely a word bearer. Especially as it was shown with the UM stuff from the Calth book...
2014/10/11 22:42:58
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
If this is true, I'm thinking a tau titan (even more against the fluff), or some sort of giant tank or mobile command center.
against which fluff exactly? as every new tau codex keeps changing it, honestly Tau need some sort of titan to deal with other titans and super heavies (and please don't say the manta or use rail guns because that argument is well played out)
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2014/10/11 23:06:43
Subject: Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
Thanatos73 wrote: Pretty safe bet it's a Word Bearer. There's Chaos Arrow type symbols, demonic imagery and the writing that's appearing on Word Bearer armor.
And, um, a giant flaming book on his chest
2014/10/11 23:11:37
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
If this is true, I'm thinking a tau titan (even more against the fluff), or some sort of giant tank or mobile command center.
against which fluff exactly? as every new tau codex keeps changing it, honestly Tau need some sort of titan to deal with other titans and super heavies (and please don't say the manta or use rail guns because that argument is well played out)
I'd like to see a Tau Titan just for the lulz. But in WD #36 (the digital ones), there was a pic of a 'swordfish' (a bigger hammerhead), custom-made by one of the writers and using house rules. I'd go far enough to say it could be made official next year
TyraelVladinhurst wrote: against which fluff exactly? as every new tau codex keeps changing it, honestly Tau need some sort of titan to deal with other titans and super heavies (and please don't say the manta or use rail guns because that argument is well played out)
The fluff is that the Tau are too pragmatic to waste resources on idiotic ideas like giant walkers. Crisis suits fill the role of Starship Troopers style power armor, while their heaviest guns are their tanks and aircraft. The Tigershark AX-1-0 is supposed to be their big titan killer, and I'd much rather see the Tigershark get better rules than a Tau titan. But I wouldn't mind a Tau superheavy tank as long as it's a good model.
(Yes, the Riptide and its variants are incredibly unfluffy and never should have existed. But let's not make the problem even worse.)
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2014/10/11 23:33:32
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
If this is true, I'm thinking a tau titan (even more against the fluff), or some sort of giant tank or mobile command center.
against which fluff exactly? as every new tau codex keeps changing it, honestly Tau need some sort of titan to deal with other titans and super heavies (and please don't say the manta or use rail guns because that argument is well played out)
I'd like to see a Tau Titan just for the lulz. But in WD #36 (the digital ones), there was a pic of a 'swordfish' (a bigger hammerhead), custom-made by one of the writers and using house rules. I'd go far enough to say it could be made official next year
The Swordfish actually dates back to chapter approved days (AH fond memories), but if FW does make an actual model more the better
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2014/10/12 00:02:47
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
If this is true, I'm thinking a tau titan (even more against the fluff), or some sort of giant tank or mobile command center.
against which fluff exactly? as every new tau codex keeps changing it, honestly Tau need some sort of titan to deal with other titans and super heavies (and please don't say the manta or use rail guns because that argument is well played out)
The fluff that specifically stated that the tau view titans as a waste of recourses. They are too darn expensive.
I will agree that gameplay-wise, they do need to have something to deal with superhevies in non-apoc games.
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2014/10/12 00:17:45
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
The fluff that specifically stated that the tau view titans as a waste of recourses. They are too darn expensive.
I will agree that gameplay-wise, they do need to have something to deal with superhevies in non-apoc games.
You know, of all factions (barring Tyranids), Tau are the easiest ones prone to change tactics (and, by that, fluff). Maybe something came up and the 'only-flyers' approach has became not as good as it was?
The fluff that specifically stated that the tau view titans as a waste of recourses. They are too darn expensive.
I will agree that gameplay-wise, they do need to have something to deal with superhevies in non-apoc games.
You know, of all factions (barring Tyranids), Tau are the easiest ones prone to change tactics (and, by that, fluff). Maybe something came up and the 'only-flyers' approach has became not as good as it was?
Can we get a link to where this came from? And what do we know of IA 13 thus far?
2014/10/12 00:47:49
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
If this is true, I'm thinking a tau titan (even more against the fluff), or some sort of giant tank or mobile command center.
against which fluff exactly? as every new tau codex keeps changing it, honestly Tau need some sort of titan to deal with other titans and super heavies (and please don't say the manta or use rail guns because that argument is well played out)
The fluff that specifically stated that the tau view titans as a waste of recourses. They are too darn expensive.
I will agree that gameplay-wise, they do need to have something to deal with superhevies in non-apoc games.
Stupid fluff be damned. Give me my titan!!!
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2014/10/12 02:02:35
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
Vector Strike wrote: You know, of all factions (barring Tyranids), Tau are the easiest ones prone to change tactics (and, by that, fluff). Maybe something came up and the 'only-flyers' approach has became not as good as it was?
But the fluff doesn't support that. Fluff-wise the Tigershark AX-1-0 is capable of one-shotting a Warhound titan, and the Manta matches up favorably against the bigger stuff. The only problem with them right now is that their rules aren't very powerful. So it makes a lot more sense to fix the rules of the existing units than to invent entirely new units to replace them.
And of course there's no justification for a Tau titan. Titans are a stupid concept (like every other large walker), and the only reason to build one is if your insane theocracy requires you to build giant walking shrines to your machine god instead of practical weapons. Since Tau don't suffer from this problem they should never have a titan.
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2014/10/12 03:51:06
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
A giant tank or heavily armored mobile command center would be cool, and fluffier. Farsight even had a mobile command center which floated above the surface of one tau world.
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2014/10/12 06:39:58
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
Vector Strike wrote: You know, of all factions (barring Tyranids), Tau are the easiest ones prone to change tactics (and, by that, fluff). Maybe something came up and the 'only-flyers' approach has became not as good as it was?
But the fluff doesn't support that. Fluff-wise the Tigershark AX-1-0 is capable of one-shotting a Warhound titan, and the Manta matches up favorably against the bigger stuff. The only problem with them right now is that their rules aren't very powerful. So it makes a lot more sense to fix the rules of the existing units than to invent entirely new units to replace them.
And of course there's no justification for a Tau titan. Titans are a stupid concept (like every other large walker), and the only reason to build one is if your insane theocracy requires you to build giant walking shrines to your machine god instead of practical weapons. Since Tau don't suffer from this problem they should never have a titan.
Eldar and Orks don't worship machine gods. And they have titans. But thankfully GW/FW will change the fluff at their discretion to make cool models. So here's to hoping that they make a Tau titan. If your into the whole fluff thing then don't buy one and refuse to acknowlege their existence.
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2014/10/12 07:06:50
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
Regarding IA13, someone posted this on warseer yesterday. Just copying it over, though you may have already seen it.
Spoiler:
To add on to the previous poster:
From B&C (and originally from BoLS)
Details of IA13 are leaking out, thanks to Mr. Mystery on the BoLS Lounge. Here's what we've got so far (different quotes for different posts):
1. No, there are no Knights in it. Update - I spoke with the Forgeworld Knight Sculptor, Darren Parwood, about whether we might see Chaos Knights. Started off with 'I can't really talk about that', which became 'trouble is, boxed into a corner with the whole 'paragons and exemplars of Good', which turned into 'but never say never'. Make of that what you will. Just info, rather than something solid enough to become Rumour. Later conversation was about Mechanicum, and complimenting his work - he's keen to make the Dark Mechanicm even gribblier, taking the merely Darkly Gothic, and making it truly, mind numbingly horrifying, as the Adepts are no longer constrained by 'no'....
Right, here goes.....contents!
Chaos Astartes Battle Tanks
Chaos Predator Battle Tank
Chaos Infernal Relic Battle Tank (all the Heresy versions. Autocannon on that is AP3...)
Chaos Vindicator Siege Tank
Chaos Relican Sicaran Battle Tank
Chaos Astartes Assault Vehicles
Chaos Land Raider
Chaos Land Raider Proteus
Chaos Infernal Relic Land Raider Achilles (oh, and for every HP knocked off that? Bigdakkafourboom gains +1S, lowers the AP by 1 (unit entry oddly worded, but example given on Pp195), and adds -1 to enemy Pinning Tests, on top of it's base -1 for Shellshock. Example mentioned? 2 HP lost makes it S7, AP3, Pinning tests at -3...
Chaos Rhino Armoured Troop Carrier
Chaos Astartes Heavy Tanks
Chaos Fellblade Super-heavy Tank
Chaos Typhon Heavy Siege Tank
Chaos Spartan Assault Tank
Chaos Astartes Attack Craft
Chaos Fire Raptor Gunship
Chaos Thunderhawk Gunsip
Chaos Hellblade (Autocannon can be upgraded to Heavy 3, Rending which I think is new? Oh, and at the start of play, you can nominate a Flyer or Flying Monstrous Creature or Gargantuan Flappy Nasty, including those in reserve. When making AP rolls or To Wound against the chosen model, 1's can be re-rolled. Which is pretty ************ if you ask me)
Chaos Hell Talon (Again, Autocannon can be souped up)
Chaos Dreadclaw Drop Pod (does what it does. Has Assault Vehicle, and Frag Launchers. And does burninating when zipping about)
Chaos Kharybdis Assault Cloaw (biggerer version of the Dreadclaw)
Chaos Dreadnoughts & Helbrutes
Ferrum Infernus Chaos Dreadnought (Daemon Prince waiting to happen, for 25 points)
Emperor's Children Sonic Dreadnought (Warp Amp doubles the shots of it's Sonic weapons if it remains stationary in a turn, and can give all sonic weapons Rending at the price of Gets Hot!)
Chaos Contemptor Dreadnought
Daemon Engines
The Machine Daemonica (fluff stuff, but reading through the contents as printed to avoid missing gubbins off)
Greater Brass Scorpion of Khorne
Blood Slaughterer of Khorne
Chaos Rapier Weapons Carrier
Chaos Decimator
Blight Drones
Plague Hulk of Nurgle
Appendices
Appendix I - Legacies of Ruin ( I assume the Rites of War equivalent, but see below *)
Appendix II - Special Rules
- Vehicle Summary
- Weapons Summary
Appendix III: Lords of the Abyss (honking geet Daemons
There, that's what's in it.
*I'm not presently up to date on my IA collection, so sadly I can't say if something has been nerfed, buffed, zerged, zomg'd, buggered, petted, polished or pooped on. All I can give is the rule, and my opinion on it based on what is in front of me. Nor can I go comparing across Loyalist stuff, except using HH Vol 1, which may not be a fair comparison, as I don't have the Loyalist books for a three way (oooer!) comparison.
Pick of the book for me, based on what I've read so far.....
Hell Talon and Hell Blade. Not only am I a sucker for Flyers, not only are they really nice models, but they have an X-Wing style Barrel Roll in the shape of 'Baleful Aberration'....
Tainted by the vile rites performed during it's creation, this vehicle is a wound in the fabric of reality and it's presence is accompanied by visual and auditory hallucinations, as well as atmospheric disturbances, darkening the very skies as it passes. A vehicle with this special rule gains a 5+ Invulnerable Save and during the Movement Phase, before the vehicle is moved, it may be repositioned D6+2" in any direction (but may not change it's current facing, or be repositioned over another model or its base
Ace rule - though a bit concerned by the lack of 'up to' on the D6+2"....
Legacies of Ruin anyone? I shan't post points in line with posting rules. I don't want anyone to get into troub (especially me)
Veteran of the Scouring
Any Tank or Super Heavy (sep costs) - It Will Not Die, and Preferred Enemy (Space Marines). Can be taken by a CSM Walker or Super-heavy Walker - It Will Not Die, Hatred (SM)
War within the Eye
Tank and Supes (sep costs) - Adamantium Will, Preferred Enemy (CSM). Walker or Supe Walker - Adamantium Will, Hated (CSM)
Maelstrom Rider (I likes this one!)
Vehicle or Supes - Outflank and Fear
Death of Kasyr Lutien
Vehicle or Supes - Fear, and any friendly Malific powers cast within 12" can re-roll one D6 for each remaining Hull Point
Blood of Mackan
Tank or Supes - Preferred Enemy (Blood Angels), Defence Lines and Barricades do not count as Dangerous Terrain. If fitted with Destroyer Blades, when Tank Shocking, and after Death or Glorying, gains AP equal to it's remaining Hull Points (in excess of 6 being - instead)
Siege of Vraks
Vehicle or Supes - Ignores Dangerous Terrain damage on a 4+, and re=roll failed To Hits against targets located in Defence Lines
Fourth Quadrant Rebellion
Vehicles and Supes - Friendly units of Cultists within 12" are Fearless, and when down to it's last Hull Point, gets a 4+ Invulnerable
Badab Uprising
Tank and Supes - Fear and Preferred Enemy (SM). Walkers and Supe Walkers - Rage and Hatred (CSM)
Scourge of the Greenskins
Tanks only - extra D6" when Tank Shocking, and Preferred Enemy (Orks)
Last of the Forge
Vehicle with Transport Capacity only - Stunned and Shaken ignored on a 4+ (hull points lost as normal), Preferred Enemy (Tyranids), and transported unit gains Hatred (Tyranids)....*cough Kharybdis cough*
Screams of Lugganath
Vehicle or Supes - When attacked by Eldar, has Fear, and if equipped with a Dirge Caster, increases the range of it by 12"
Perdus Rift Anamoly
Vehicles and Supes - If deployed (as in, on the board, not held in reserves) at the beginning of the game, you can re-roll to seize the initiative, Preferred Enemy (Tau)
1st War for Armageddon
Vehicle or Supes - Daemonic Saves made within 6" improve by 1, to a max of 2+, and has Fear when attacked by Astra Militarum Forces
(almost there! Stay on target!)
Vessel of Akashneth of the Boiling Brass
Vehicle or Supes - Fear, and friendly units with an Icon of Wrath within 12" count as having inflicted an additional D3 wounds for the purposes of working out who wins an assault, (also counts as Daemonic Possession as per CSM book)
Vessel of Shyak The Seeker
Vehicle or Supes - Fear, enemy units within 12" of an Icon of Excess roll an additional D6 and discard the lowest on ANY Leadership based test (emphasis mine) (also counts as Daemonic Possession as per CSM book)
Vessel of Dhornurgh The Reborn
Vehicles and Supes - Fear, all friendly units within 6" with the Icon of Despair have the Gets Hot! and Rending special rules in HTH (also counts as Daemonic Possession as per CSM book)
Vessel of Tzenahk the Occluder
Vehicle and Supes - Fear. At the beginning of the game, roll a D6... 1. If this vehicle is destroyed, opponent bags an extra VP. 2-6. If it survives, you get an additional D3 VPs. (also counts as Daemonic Possession as per CSM book)
Auloth the Primordial Iterator
Vehicle and Supes - Fear, all weapons gain Pinning. All friendly units within 12" have the Fear and FnP special rules (also counts as Daemonic Possession as per CSM book)
In response to a questions about which Lords of War the Lost & the Damned army list could take:
Depends which God you follow, and who your Bossman is....
All get - Malcador, Malador Defender, Minotaur and Bandblades.
Demagogue Devotions open up...
The Bloody Handed Reaver
Lord of Skulls
Greater Brass Scorpion
Primaris-rogue Witch
All for of the big Daemons, but no more than 25% of your army's total points
Mutant Overlord
Giant Chaos Spawn
Spined Chaos Beast
Both are 1-3 per choice, but no mixy-matchy.
Master of the Horde
Nowt!
Arch-heretic Revolutionary
Macharius Heavy Tank
Macharius Vanquisher
Macharius Vulcan
Macharius Omega (IA Vol 1, 2nd Ed)
Heretek Magus (yep, you read that right!)
Valdor Tank Hnt (IA Vol 1, 2nd Ed)
Chaos Warhound
Chaos Reaver
Greater Brass Scorpion
He also detailed out that "Daemon Prince waiting to happen" Dreadnought in a different thread:
LOTS of special rules.....
Vox-Caster
Command Net Vox
Sub-flak Armour (6+ sv)
Chaos Sigil (ignore first failed Morale or Pinning test each game turn
Combat Drug Injectors - activate on charge. gains Rage, but T test at end of combat or remove D3 models, no saves at all at all.
Banner of Hate - All infantry from same Primary detachment with one or more models (Clarity!) within 12" roll 3D6 for Pinning and Morale, discarding the lowest
Banner of the Apostate - +1 to combat score, not cumulative with each other
Army Special Rules
Uncertain Worth - Random Ld - D6+4, roll when it's first used (sticks for the rest of the game, usual modifiers apply)
Curse of Mutation - before deployment, D6. 1-2, Fear and all friendly units without Curse of Mutation rule -1 Ld when within 6". 3-4, Unnatural Sense. Acute Senses and Scout, but count all Blast, Barrage and Heavy Weapons as having the Blind Special Rule. 5-6, Horns, Claws and Fangs. Hammer of Wrath, HoW +1 S, but must always declare a charge in any friendly assault phase when enemy are within 12". If multiple qualifying units, you get to choose who you declare the charge against.
Chaos Covenant (hold onto your pants, and grab the Kleenex....)
Renegades and Heretics with this may select one of the following.
Khorne - Any unit with at least one model with this re-roll ALL failed to wound in the first round of any Close Combat
Nurgle - As above, but FnP 6+
Slaanesh - As above, Fleet
Tzeentch - As above, but BS2(!) Snap Shots......
Fanatic
When determining Ld for Uncertain Worth, roll an additional D6 and ditch the lowest.
Aura of the Witch
Unit must be modelled with a pointy hat, a Parsnip nose, and a Wart. Gains 5+ Invulnerable save, and Fear, but cannot join another unit, or be the Warlord. Part of this listing is untrue. Can you spots it?
So...I'm gonna explode from excitement here. Anyone else?
Da Orks don't worship sum puny machine god! dey worship a proppa god. Dat dere is an idol of Gork (or Mork), an he is gunna stomp you flat! He he he.
As for Eldar *shrugs*, who knows? Although I seem to recall that Eldar tech is so good that their Titans are effectively just an extension of the Steersman's body, so technically doesn't that mean they're the biggest set of power armour in the 40k universe?!
Automatically Appended Next Post: But I agree, a true Tau Titan wouldn't fit with the existing fluff, however I could see them developing (and would love to buy!) a super heavy grav tank, not dissimilar to the Eldar ones.
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Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
2014/10/12 08:04:41
Subject: Re:Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : page 10 Warhamerfest pics
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