Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P99 Bulletin #50

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**Veteran Sergeant**

Frozen Ocean wrote:
With modern design, I doubt they'd just go with the silly batwings. That's like saying they should never have made Daemon Angron because his model in Epic was ludicrous..

Everything back then was ludicrous.

It's why I chuckle when people try to rationalize the actions of a guy named Angron, daemon primarch of the Chaos god of being really angry, or Mortarion, daemon prince of the Chaos god of death decay and disease who wears a hooded robe and carries a scythe. These are cartoon characters. I don't care how good you think ADB is as a wwriter, Angron still doesn't make any sense because he's flatter than three day old soda water as a character.

**Zuul**

Fango wrote:
STC_LogisEngine wrote:

The Deathwing (40k) did however have a distinct native american flavour for much of 3d/4th/5th ed. that (thankfully) have been supressed heavily and as good as extinguished in todays miniatures and publications, it was always an ill-fit with the 1st legion.

I actually liked the Native American influence in the Deathwing (which originates from the fluff in the 1st edition Space Hulk expansion 'Deathwing'). I'm not sure why it's an ill-fit. I plan to convert my Deathwing terminators to showcase that. I figure some of the space wolf heads and marauder horsemen heads would work with a bit of converting/minor sculpting.

Deathwing Fiction

They can retcon all they want, that doesn't change the fact that the fluff in that expansion explains why the Death Company have white armor, instead of the original First Legion color's (Black).

One of my favorite illustrations in that book was the three helmet-less terminators walking down that narrow hive city street.

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On a more Forgeworld related note...with the massively insane prices on these primarch model kits, I won't be considering a purchase until we see Lion El Johnson, Russ or Sanguinius.

I'm not saying that they are cheap, but they aren't much more than a new land raider. They have more cool factor than one as well though.

**Frozen Ocean**

Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Frozen Ocean wrote:
With modern design, I doubt they'd just go with the silly batwings. That's like saying they should never have made Daemon Angron because his model in Epic was ludicrous..
Everything back then was ludicrous.

It's why I chuckle when people try to rationalize the actions of a guy named Angron, daemon primarch of the Chaos god of being really angry, or Mortarion, daemon prince of the Chaos god of death decay and disease who wears a hooded robe and carries a scythe. These are cartoon characters. I don't care how good you think ADB is as a wwriter, Angron still doesn't make any sense because he's flatter than three day old soda water as a character.

That was my point. Things being silly then doesn't mean that the re-imagining has to be silly. I've never read ADB, but I do know that all of the Primarchs have the personality of extremely petty 13 year olds. That doesn't mean the models aren't allowed to be cool, though.

**sonofruss**

Frozen Ocean wrote:
Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Frozen Ocean wrote:
With modern design, I doubt they'd just go with the silly batwings. That's like saying they should never have made Daemon Angron because his model in Epic was ludicrous..
Everything back then was ludicrous.

It's why I chuckle when people try to rationalize the actions of a guy named Angron, daemon primarch of the Chaos god of being really angry, or Mortarion, daemon prince of the Chaos god of death decay and disease who wears a hooded robe and carries a scythe. These are cartoon characters. I don't care how good you think ADB is as a wwriter, Angron still doesn't make any sense because he's flatter than three day old soda water as a character.

That was my point. Things being silly then doesn't mean that the re-imagining has to be silly. I've never read ADB, but I do know that all of the Primarchs have the personality of extremely petty 13 year olds. That doesn't mean the models aren't allowed to be cool, though.

You guys are aware the Primarch names existed long before the HH series right? I am eagerly waiting for Russ

**Ashiraya**

I am actually curious, how old are the Primarchs?

Not as in the first mention, but when were their names, legions etc. first listed?

**BrookM**

Some of the legions had other names prior to meeting with their primarchs. The Death Guard were at first the Dusk Raiders, Word Bearers were the Imperial Heralds and the World Eaters were first the War Hounds.

**Goatmoerser**

Contemptor Friday today!

ALPHA LEGION CONTEMPTOR DREADNOUGHT

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ALPHA_LEGION_CONTEMPTOR_DREADNOUGHT.html

WORD BEARERS LEGION CONTEMPTOR DREADNOUGHT

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/WORD_BEARERS_LEGION_CONTEMPTOR_DREADNOUGHT.html

That's it...all covered Legions of the Heresy books have their own Contemptor now. But I think we'll see an Ultramarines Contemptor soon enough anyway

**zedmeister**

Hydra Dominatus!

Really like that Alpha Legion Contemptor.

Really hope they do a Sabateur model for them...

**BrookM**

That Alpha Legion model is gorgeous, it misses something though.. Where are the moustache and hat?

**Kosake**

Hydra Dominatus indeed. The contemptor model looks pretty ace I must say...

**Snrub**

That shimmery blue/turquoise they've got on that dread is absolutely gorgeous. That combined with the silver makes for a stunning paint job.

**Padre**

Ashiraya wrote:
I am actually curious, how old are the Primarchs?

Not as in the first mention, but when were their names, legions etc. first listed?

To my knowledge, at least 1992, if not earlier...

**STC_LogisEngine**

Well, the primarchs (but the weren't primarchs quite yet) or at least their names pop up for the first time in WH40K Rogue Trader, released in 1987. The first mestion of the horus heresy is from the game Adeptus Titanicus released in 1988, the precursor of Epic 40k, that was set in the era of the Heresy and featured exclusive warlord-on-warlord titan action though subsequent releases in white dwarf and other publications added a range of units and other factions.

**Haighus**

That Alpha Legion Contemptor is pretty ace, I would love to face one of those with my Imperial Fists.

**warboss**

I do like the Alpha Legion contemptor, especially the chest embellishments.

**Azreal13**

It's OK everybody!

I'm sure you'll all be glad to know that there is still time to order FW stuff for Christmas delivery!

Just thought I'd let everyne know, because it isn't like FW are sending out multiple emails a day to tell everyone.

What? They are? Oh, in which case I'm unsubscribing, I signed up for a newsletter, not to authorise spam.

**TyraelVladinhurst**

*shrugs* Still waiting on Imperial Army Bikes and Jetbikes and the Vanus Temple, Venenum Temple, and Assassin special Characters

**the_Armyman**

Goatmoerser wrote:
Contemptor Friday today!

ALPHA LEGION CONTEMPTOR DREADNOUGHT

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ALPHA_LEGION_CONTEMPTOR_DREADNOUGHT.html

The paint on that thing is beautiful. Very subtle blue and green transitions. Looks deceptively simple, but I'm sure there's a fair few steps involved. Transparent glazes over a metallic basecoat? Tinted metallic medium? Not easy to pull off at this scale since metallic pigments can be "chunky". The rest of the paint is very stark with almost no extraneous colors. Takes a bit of courage and confidence to choose a scheme like this.

**Azreal13**

If I had to speculate, yes - something like the Minitaire Ghost Tints, or some other candy colours, airbrushed over a bright silver base.

It could, of course, have been achieved with conventional brush and ordinary paints, but I'm fairly confident that you'd get a reasonable approximation with the above for mere mortals.

**Lockark**

I remember someone speculating it was pearlescent pigment powder and medium used to make that effect. Like a green and blue mix.

**angelofvengeance**

That Alpha Legion dread looks AWESOME

As does that twin Autocannon toting Word Bearer dread for that matter..

**Fango**

Why is there not a Dark Angels Contemptor yet? As far as I can recall, they were the First Legion....and were definitely around during the Heresy...

**Fireball**

Fango wrote:
Why is there not a Dark Angels Contemptor yet? As far as I can recall, they were the First Legion....and were definitely around during the Heresy...

Well, Forgeworld produced 4 Horus Heresy Books and no one featured the Dark Angels. They now have made Contemptors for the 12 Legions which were featured in the books as well.

**kartofelkopf**

Man, now that contemptor is one I'd buy a painting guide for. Gorgeous.

**Kirasu**

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
*shrugs* Still waiting on Imperial Army Bikes and Jetbikes and the Vanus Temple, Venenum Temple, and Assassin special Characters

I hope you have a backup plan ...

**Theophony**

Kirasu wrote:
TyraelVladinhurst wrote:
*shrugs* Still waiting on Imperial Army Bikes and Jetbikes and the Vanus Temple, Venenum Temple, and Assassin special Characters

I hope you have a backup plan ...

Contemptor Jetbikes

, white scars need them

**Azreal13**

After nearly 8k posts.

Wrong thread

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Just email FW they'll give you the step by step for their AL.

**Zuul**

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Just email FW they'll give you the step by step for their AL.

For real?? Awesome!

**Alpharius**

And feel free to then post the details here - thanks!