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 Ashiraya wrote:
Which is funny, because in the WD that came along with the Stormtalon/Dakkajet/Night Scythe release, there was an Ork/White Scar battle report.

And you guessed it, the WS had a Dreadnought. They even had a bunch of fluff coming with the battle report.

I can't say that I'm surprised. I think the folks at Lexicanum are more obsessive about fluff consistency than GW is. Or frankly, Lexicanum could be flat wrong, too.

Forge World so far have been pretty good at digging up old bits of fluff, so maybe the WS will have a rule that prevents them from taking Dreadnoughts. Would stop people whining about 'yet another Contemptor' just once too.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Forge World so far have been pretty good at digging up old bits of fluff, so maybe the WS will have a rule that prevents them from taking Dreadnoughts. Would stop people whining about 'yet another Contemptor' just once too.

No offence meant, Geek, but surely you can see why people are just a little bit "over-Contemptored"?

As you note, FW are great at digging up old fluff and 40K historical references (Gyrinx and Death Ferret, next, please!)

Yes, okay, they're easy to customise to Legions / Chapters (take "template", add surface detail, voila, make money...)

But they've got 16-plus variants now, with more coming, so the huge focus on Contemptors has maybe gotten a bit much...

Now, where did I put that Ambull?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I'm curious to see what's next for the Solar Auxilia.

I think i've glimpsed something about superheavy tanks in HH4, Shadowsword or something. So maybe a pre-heresy variation of the Baneblade? Or maybe a walker? I mean, seriously, when did Forgeworld make a walker unit last time? Or, to put it more bluntly, the Solar Auxillia Contemptor ahoy!

There was that sneak peak at the Stormhammer model within HH4, so we know that is on the way.

I wonder, though, if there actually will be anything else for the Solar Auxilia not already in HH4. Of course, we still have the Imperial Army itself, as well as some more possibilities for the Mechanicum. And there are still the Custodes and the Sisters of Silence, but I suspect those two will be designed more as allied lists rather than full armies. The Custodes may even just be an "Agents of the Imperium" unit.

I think a command set is due as well; the Lord Marshal and whatnot have options well beyond a normal Solar Auxilia; I just don't see a sergeant conversion really working for that. Something to represent the Command Squad with a model suitable for a Lord Marshal, if we're lucky, it might even have like an alternate weapon option; wouldn't that be crazy!

I'd love to see them do Charonites. A command squad would be great as well.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I think a command set is due as well; the Lord Marshal and whatnot have options well beyond a normal Solar Auxilia; I just don't see a sergeant conversion really working for that. Something to represent the Command Squad with a model suitable for a Lord Marshal, if we're lucky, it might even have like an alternate weapon option; wouldn't that be crazy!

Yeah, like that awesome model for Elysian Company Commander with all the options and cool bits that made him really stand out from the rest of the range....

Since when does the Elysian company commander come with extra options? All you get is a different head, a power fist, las pistol and an optional spotting scope.

 Padre wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Forge World so far have been pretty good at digging up old bits of fluff, so maybe the WS will have a rule that prevents them from taking Dreadnoughts. Would stop people whining about 'yet another Contemptor' just once too.

No offence meant, Geek, but surely you can see why people are just a little bit "over-Contemptored"?

As you note, FW are great at digging up old fluff and 40K historical references (Gyrinx and Death Ferret, next, please!)

Yes, okay, they're easy to customise to Legions / Chapters (take "template", add surface detail, voila, make money...)

But they've got 16-plus variants now, with more coming, so the huge focus on Contemptors has maybe gotten a bit much...

Now, where did I put that Ambull?

No, I agree, and I can see that. It's just, it's obvious they're doing one for each legion, here's no point complaining every time a new one is released.

I do hope they don't do a legion specific one for every legion with the new Deredo dread though.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I do hope they don't do a legion specific one for every legion with the new Deredo dread though.

We're all hoping that. We don't need 19+ Deredo variants on top of the Contemptors. It's too much.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I think a command set is due as well; the Lord Marshal and whatnot have options well beyond a normal Solar Auxilia; I just don't see a sergeant conversion really working for that. Something to represent the Command Squad with a model suitable for a Lord Marshal, if we're lucky, it might even have like an alternate weapon option; wouldn't that be crazy!

Yeah, like that awesome model for Elysian Company Commander with all the options and cool bits that made him really stand out from the rest of the range....

Yeah, I know, Forgeworld doesn't like giving out bits for any of their Guard ranges, but at the very least, something to represent a normal human in "Artificer Armour" would be nice, even if it isn't a customizable option, something akin to the Death Korps Commander which is profoundly unique, unlike the Elysian, who is posed in such a way that you have leeway in wargear; sheathed sword, holstered pistol, arrogant-as-all-hell pose, etc.

It's just that Elysians have been treated as Forgeworld's red-headed step child.

Well, aside from all of Warhamer Forge.

Collecting Elysians is even more a pain in the ass now because sergeants MUST have a laspistol and ccw, but all the squad sets come with lasguns. GG FW, GG.

I'll agree with you there, I've just finished making a D-99 Army and the sergeants killed me, the lack of variation the Elysian range comes with is also frustrating and make building an army quite challenging. The Elysian range really does need some filling out,
They look awesome though, I plan to use mine to represent a Solor Axuilia army.

 ImAGeek wrote:


No, I agree, and I can see that. It's just, it's obvious they're doing one for each legion, here's no point complaining every time a new one is released.

I do hope they don't do a legion specific one for every legion with the new Deredo dread though.

I don't think anyone's got a problem with them doing a Contemptor for each legion, just that it feels like they dominate the marine release schedule a little bit. If you go to the new stuff tab on the FW site the last 4 marine releases before the Fists stuff the other week are 3 Contemptors and a Primarch. The rest of it's Solar Auxilia or Mechanicum. Any marine players hoping for new generic stuff they can use are being routinely disappointed and people saying 'ugh more Contemptors' are probably just letting out some impatience.


(I do realise that marine players after generic kits are pretty well catered for, but that doesn't stop us wanting more dammit!)

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


No, I agree, and I can see that. It's just, it's obvious they're doing one for each legion, here's no point complaining every time a new one is released.

I do hope they don't do a legion specific one for every legion with the new Deredo dread though.

I don't think anyone's got a problem with them doing a Contemptor for each legion, just that it feels like they dominate the marine release schedule a little bit. If you go to the new stuff tab on the FW site the last 4 marine releases before the Fists stuff the other week are 3 Contemptors and a Primarch. The rest of it's Solar Auxilia or Mechanicum. Any marine players hoping for new generic stuff they can use are being routinely disappointed and people saying 'ugh more Contemptors' are probably just letting out some impatience.


(I do realise that marine players after generic kits are pretty well catered for, but that doesn't stop us wanting more dammit!)

Yeah, fair enough. Look at it this way though, the sooner they're done, the sooner they can do other stuff?

 sockwithaticket wrote:
I do realise that marine players after generic kits are pretty well catered for, but that doesn't stop us wanting more dammit!)

I know what you mean. I am just interested in Marine models - no tanks, Dreadnoughts, Solar Auxilia or Mechanium stuff needed. But the IF stuff is pretty good, so I will not complain. Definitely looking forward to the HH Weekender in less than a month to see what is coming next.

 ImAGeek wrote:


Yeah, fair enough. Look at it this way though, the sooner they're done, the sooner they can do other stuff?

Pffft, don't you start using calm rationalisations, that's not how to play this game

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:


Yeah, fair enough. Look at it this way though, the sooner they're done, the sooner they can do other stuff?

Pffft, don't you start using calm rationalisations, that's not how to play this game

Haha my bad, I forgot this was the Internet

Plenty of new stuff ...

What's the weapon in the second robot squad?

 BrookM wrote:
What's the weapon in the second robot squad?

its called Irad Cleanser ... whatever that means

It shoots radiation and has a chance of lowering toughness, nice.

Hydras on those pads look much better than the designs from previously released ones.

Dammit Forgeworld are tempting me hard with the Mechanicum stuff. Thallax with a cool looking plasma weapon may just tip me over the edge.

'Bout time those hit. Shame that you have to get 2 regular dudes to get one special weapon.

One day I will take the plunge and do a full 30k army. When I eventually decide on a Legion.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
'Bout time those hit. Shame that you have to get 2 regular dudes to get one special weapon.

You can only take 1 special per 3 dudes so it kind of makes sense, unless you brought a ton of the normal guys when they first came out like I did. I had to do my own version of the guns as I'd brought 27 of the normal dudes.

 Thanatos73 wrote:
One day I will take the plunge and do a full 30k army. When I eventually decide on a Legion.

I'm with you there... but what legion to take?

1. DA - Green ultramarines. boring.
2. - ?
3. EC - purple's ugly
4. IW - maybe that one?
5. Scars - dunno. white doesn't strike me as exceptionally interesting.
6. SW - neither does grey
7. IF - yellow's difficult to paint
8. Lords - yeah, maybe those?
9. BA - red ultramarines
10. Hands - black's boring
11. -
12. Eaters - nice scheme, except I allready have two melee-oriented armies...
13. Ultras - ultrasmuuuurf, ultrasmuuuurf, does whatever the codex tells him
14. Death Guard - hrm... maybe?
15. 1k Sons - very maybe, but the pure red scheme doesn't seem very fancy either
16. SoH - look nice, for a change.
17. Bearers - are they grey or red in fluff, i don't really get it.
18. Salamanders - The only loyalists that are somewhat interesting
19. Raven guard - black is still boring, even with better jump packs
20. Alpha Legion - doing a 40k army of them allready. Nice fluff but somehow I miss some distinct units.

 Kosake wrote:


1. DA - Green ultramarines. boring.

Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

 BrookM wrote:

 Kosake wrote:


1. DA - Green ultramarines. boring.

Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

The ones from earth (pre primarch reunion) were black, then once the lion starts recruiting and dividing the legion green becomes a thing. Post hersey it's all green except the ravenwing and the first company are black. The first company switches to bone later when they die to a man after clearing a genestealer infected world. Then the party starts and they hook up the sound system to the landspeeders

 Theophony wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Kosake wrote:


1. DA - Green ultramarines. boring.

Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

The ones from earth (pre primarch reunion) were black, then once the lion starts recruiting and dividing the legion green becomes a thing. Post hersey it's all green except the ravenwing and the first company are black. The first company switches to bone later when they die to a man after clearing a genestealer infected world. Then the party starts and they hook up the sound system to the landspeeders

Thanks for the correction. So, in other terms:

1. DA - either green or black ultramarines. Boring (either because of ultra, or because of black).

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff

already ordered. or should i say 'Ordoed'?
Ordo Reductor FTW!


you might have more room for character with a word bearers army - nice pre-heresy colours and also different livery/honour marks for different periods.
i saw one army (might be the battlebunnies blog) where they had different vehicles from different era's of the chapter - you spend ages looking at them as each felt like it had a history to it.