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 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Darth Bob wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
GW/FW are making airbrush paints apparantly. The colours are approved, no names yet.

That's interesting. I wonder if that means they'll make the move to dropper bottles instead of the horrible paint pots they use now.

I hope not. I like the current pots and hate dropper bottles.

As they say...

Different strokes for different folks!

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Darth Bob wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
GW/FW are making airbrush paints apparantly. The colours are approved, no names yet.

That's interesting. I wonder if that means they'll make the move to dropper bottles instead of the horrible paint pots they use now.

I hope not. I like the current pots and hate dropper bottles.

...but why?

Actually - don't tell us here - let's keep this thread on topic, and relevant, please?

Start a Dropper vs. Jar discussion in...Dakka Discussions?

Maybe P&M?

Thanks!

 Alpharius wrote:
Actually - don't tell us here - let's keep this thread on topic, and relevant, please?

Start a Dropper vs. Jar discussion in...Dakka Discussions?

Maybe P&M?

Thanks!

What if we call the dropper "Alpharius" and the pot "Omegon"? If we say which side we are on would that be more appropriate

Love those ultramarine upgrade kit, those 30K helmets i need!

Not sold on the stormbird from the stories i got that the stormbird was smaller more agile than the Thunderhawk.
That WIP version just looks like a Thunderhawk with more engines on.

With the popularity of 30K stuff GW should do a 30K tactical plastic marines squad, i would buy that!

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

Not sold on the stormbird from the stories i got that the stormbird was smaller more agile than the Thunderhawk.

I think you've got those two mixed up. Stormbirds have always been bigger than Thunderhawks, AFAIK.

+1

If anything, you'd probably be able to squeeze a THawk inside a Stormbird.

 Azreal13 wrote:
+1

If anything, you'd probably be able to squeeze a THawk inside a Stormbird.

With models like the Dreadknight and Centurions do you really want to give GW any ideas?

The Reaver weapons just seem to be lacking something.

The blade just screams lazy. It looks like the track section of a Leman Russ.

I don't know why they released it.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I don't know why they released it.

Because some people want a Titan-sized Chainfist, I'd presume.

If they're happy realising crap and people are willing to buy crap then that's fine.

I honestly think this Heresy obsession is making them lazy and less creative.

 Medium of Death wrote:
If they're happy realising crap and people are willing to buy crap then that's fine.

Please try to learn that there is a difference between something being bad, and something that you dislike.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
If they're happy realising crap and people are willing to buy crap then that's fine.

Please try to learn that there is a difference between something being bad, and something that you dislike.

Pot? Kettle?

That non argument aside. The teeth are far too small to be functional. While the setting isn't know for its realism this just looks ridiculous.

What armour is this going to be cutting through?

 Medium of Death wrote:
Pot? Kettle?

Not really. I'm not a huge fan of the chain fist, but that's my personal preference. I'm not saying it's bad/poorly designed/lazily made/causing the downfall of civillisation as we know it.

 Medium of Death wrote:
The teeth are far too small to be functional.

And you know this from your extensive real-world knowledge of working examples of Titan-sized chainfists, do you?

Oh yay! Pedantic-ism about the size of the teeth on the fictional chainsword!

The Horus Heresy models continue to be some of the best sculpts in any line, especially the character models and the Primarchs.

And that doesnt even include all the awesome originality of the mechanicus models.

 cincydooley wrote:
Pedantic-ism about the size of the teeth on the fictional chainsword!

I believe the word you're looking for is "pedantry".





See what I did there?


Oh, and speaking of being pedantic:

 cincydooley wrote:
And that doesnt even include all the awesome originality of the mechanicus models.

It's Mechanicum. The Adeptus Mechanicus does not yet exist.

 Medium of Death wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
If they're happy realising crap and people are willing to buy crap then that's fine.

Please try to learn that there is a difference between something being bad, and something that you dislike.

Pot? Kettle?

That non argument aside. The teeth are far too small to be functional. While the setting isn't know for its realism this just looks ridiculous.

What armour is this going to be cutting through?

I would guess titan armor and other super heavies they also have the field that the Titan Powerfists have so yea that is my guess on that
I want the Volcano Cannon an apoc blast D-weapon

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Pedantic-ism about the size of the teeth on the fictional chainsword!

I believe the word you're looking for is "pedantry".





See what I did there?


Oh, and speaking of being pedantic:

Dammit. I knew pedantic-ism didn't feel right. feth all.

It's Mechanicum. The Adeptus Mechanicus does not yet exist.

You're killin me smalls

 Medium of Death wrote:
The teeth are far too small to be functional.

I guess you've never looked at the size of the teeth on a real chainsaw relative to the size of the blade? If anything smaller chainswords/chainfists have teeth that are too big, due to a combination of GW's cartoonish size exaggeration and the difficulty in making distinct teeth at 28mm scale.

Looking at it, I think a biger problem may be the elbow joint. It doesn't look like it can even rotate far enough to bring the blade up as high as it's waist joint, and it isn't long enough to hit vehicle smaller than a land raider without crouching.

Actually, the titan powerfist has a similar problem, but it looks like it has a slightly better range of motion.

Titan CCWs could probably use another joint so they can raise them higher. Or at least a ball and socket joint at the shoulder rather than a perpendicular joint.

Personally, I agree with Medium of Death - the detail just seemed lack-luster. Maybe it's because its for a big model so they didn't want to bog it down with small details, but it looked like something I'd see coming out of a mediocre Kickstarter, especially the Volcano Cannon. Edit: The back end of it looks better though; I hadn't seen the other pics on FW yet

I think seeing that in the midst of all the teasers for HHW may be a factor too

 Peregrine wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
The teeth are far too small to be functional.

I guess you've never looked at the size of the teeth on a real chainsaw relative to the size of the blade? If anything smaller chainswords/chainfists have teeth that are too big, due to a combination of GW's cartoonish size exaggeration and the difficulty in making distinct teeth at 28mm scale.

I guess you've never looked at a chainsaw because the chain isn't typically constrained by the sides which negates the need for the teeth to be massive. The teeth on the Reaver arm barely clear the sides.

 Jpogfreak886 wrote:
Personally, I agree with Medium of Death - the detail just seemed lack-luster. Maybe it's because its for a big model so they didn't want to bog it down with small details, but it looked like something I'd see coming out of a mediocre Kickstarter, especially the Volcano Cannon.

The reason the Volcano cannon probably looks off is that while all the other reaver ranged weapons have a rather bulky breech area, the Volcano cannon breech is rather less bulky. It makes sense though, as it is a single barreled weapon, and all the other ones are multiple barrels. The Volcano cannon is long and slender

 Medium of Death wrote:
I guess you've never looked at a chainsaw because the chain isn't typically constrained by the sides which negates the need for the teeth to be massive. The teeth on the Reaver arm barely clear the sides.

The cutting surface being too narrow (just like the tracks on most of GW's tank designs) has nothing to do with the size of the teeth. If you're going to criticize a design as "unrealistic" then you should at least be clear about what you're criticizing.


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 Jpogfreak886 wrote:
Personally, I agree with Medium of Death - the detail just seemed lack-luster. Maybe it's because its for a big model so they didn't want to bog it down with small details, but it looked like something I'd see coming out of a mediocre Kickstarter, especially the Volcano Cannon. Edit: The back end of it looks better though; I hadn't seen the other pics on FW yet

Compare it to the detail on the other Reaver weapons (especially the laser blaster, which is the closest equivalent) and it's about the same. If you like the other guns I can't see why you'd have any problem with the volcano cannon.

So you agree that it's a crap design?

The crap design should have bigger teeth for it to work as a cutting weapon as otherwise they'd not have enough reach.

It's not believable. Which doesn't mean realistic.

 Medium of Death wrote:
So you agree that it's a crap design?

I agree that it isn't 100% realistic. The two concepts are not the same.

The crap design should have bigger teeth for it to work as a cutting weapon as otherwise they'd not have enough reach.

Making bigger teeth doesn't solve the problem, it just lets it cut a bit deeper before the side of the blade blocks it. Chainsaws don't cut by having the teeth rip apart the material by brute force, they make a rapid sequence of shallow cuts as each tooth passes over the surface. Making the teeth bigger just makes the chainsaw heavier and more complex. The actual solution (like the solution to the tank track problem) is to make the teeth wider than the blade so that the blade can go all the way into and through the material.

It's not believable. Which doesn't mean realistic.

Titans aren't realistic at all. If you can accept that a Reaver titan can exist without having paper-thin armor and fatal ground pressure issues then I don't really see why a small detail of a chainsaw blade is such a big deal.

 Crimson wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

Though I'm still not sold on them. They're wearing greatcoats over their space suits..

It is bloody perfect, FW has read my mind! I really hoped Solar Auxilia officers would get great coats. These will make an absolutely perfect Rogue Trader's landing party.

Sorry, I called psychic-dibs on using the SA commander model as a Rogue Trader when I saw it, get your own ideas

 Yodhrin wrote:
Sorry, I called psychic-dibs on using the SA commander model as a Rogue Trader when I saw it, get your own ideas

He's kinda perfect, isn't he? Just needs a fancy hat.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

Though I'm still not sold on them. They're wearing greatcoats over their space suits..

It is bloody perfect, FW has read my mind! I really hoped Solar Auxilia officers would get great coats. These will make an absolutely perfect Rogue Trader's landing party.

Sorry, I called psychic-dibs on using the SA commander model as a Rogue Trader when I saw it, get your own ideas

I've been using the Solar Auxilia as a Rogue Trader and attached elements since its release now, even had a battle in a proper Zone Mortalis last week. Yoink!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Sorry, I called psychic-dibs on using the SA commander model as a Rogue Trader when I saw it, get your own ideas

He's kinda perfect, isn't he? Just needs a fancy hat.

Mine will be getting the SM Master of Relics jowly-face head with a powdered wig sculpted on