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 ClockworkZion wrote:
With FW doing a book roughly every 6 months, I wouldn't expect Prospero to be 2 years out.

Well the next book may turn into a trilogy, and then there's Calth which may be 2 books, so.

I'd be kind of disappointed if every book is a trilogy. Well at first at least. I'd probably warm up to it in time.

Well they didn't say they definitely were, they just said they may do.

Curze has the potential to be the raddest looking of the primarch models. Batman with giant hooked lightning claws and liberal amounts of Dark Eldar styling? Possibly with a scenic base that has him brooding on top of a building? Man, sign me up for that nonsense.

Isn't there a big fight in the books where he gets trashed by Lion'el Johnson? I'd say there's a decent chance of them getting a combined base and a back to back release.

Maybe Curze and Corax, from Istvaan? I think Curze could definitely be the coolest Primarch model.

id love Magnas, in a duel base with Leman Russ.

aaand id also like a daemon prince model of him too haha.

I'm looking forward to the final Horus Heresy book that contains rules for The Emperor.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
I'm looking forward to the final Horus Heresy book that contains rules for The Emperor.

9s in every stat save for leadership (which would be a 10) with a 2+, 3++, and with telekinesis, telepathy and biomancy as his powers. Probably cost about 700 points and have armor that causes blind tests everytime he's hit, even if he fails his save. Naturally he'd have that massively wicked claw which is likely an AP2 Power Claw that has a nasty list of rules, and is generally a mix of all the Primarch's core strengths in one BAMF of a character.

And only available in Loyalist armies.

Sounds about right. I don't really want him for him, but to see the impact it would have. I imagine it won't stop the obligatory "Stats for The Emperor" threads in Proposed Rules, but they will shift to be even more powerful and get filled alternatively with people complaining about the FW Emperor rules and people supporting them.

It would be cool to finally have a model for him, though, just so that it exists. The Primarch I am anticipating the most is Sanguinius, as he is bound to be gorgeous. I'm interested to see what size they will settle on for Alpharius, also.

In response to the actual question, I imagine Konrad Curze (why do people keep mixing that up?) to be next. They aren't showing Loyalist favouritism, unlike GW main. If they don't do Konrad, it'll probably be Rogal Dorn either before or after Perturabo. Since they're in the same book and their rivalry is famous, it would make sense to do them close together.

I imagine that the Daemon Primarchs and the Empowered Horus will be more of a match for the Emperor than they are now. I mean I think they'll be a decent chance as is (I mean Logar can get a decent chance being invisible, Angron has a fair chance if he can pour on enough attacks, ect), but I definitely can bet he'll be a high points cost to ensure he has to contend with Titans and the like (thanks to FW's HH LoW rule of "no more than 25% of the army's points, and only at 2k+) as well.

I don't see the Emperor having anything truly ridiculous in terms of stats. He was the professor X of 40k, godlike psychic power, but that doesn't mean he was any better than a primarch when it came to a fight. Heck he almost got choked out by an ork.

That's what I mean. FW will most likely give him stats a little better than the Primarchs (which I agree with), but this won't be enough for some people. It'll cause yet another schism in the community. I also predict that the obligatory "Stats for the Emperor" threads will propose Emperors more powerful than ever before just to distance themselves from the FW one.

 Badablack wrote:
I don't see the Emperor having anything truly ridiculous in terms of stats. He was the professor X of 40k, godlike psychic power, but that doesn't mean he was any better than a primarch when it came to a fight. Heck he almost got choked out by an ork.

I predict he'll be the amalgamation of the best stats of all the Primarchs, if not their best stats +1, since they are all aspects of him. Also that was supposed to be one BIG damn ork. I really kind of wish that FW eventually do some of those pre-heresy Xenos and things just to hand out some options for Orks and Eldar just to give them some options for playing against HH armies. I know they don't have a serious intent to do so, but it'd be nice if they did eventually as a collective Great Crusade expansion of some kind.

Having "the best of each" emperor seems like the logical path, if he will indeed be made.
I suspect he will never be made though, too much of an explosive casket.

After the heresy books are done......time to move away from the IoM.
As for pre-heresy xenos, why orks and eldar? we got plenty of these. I'd rather see xeno subfactions-new small races with a very small "codex" that lends himself to a specific fighting style, as a specialized list. (by small I mean like 1 generic HQ, 1 named, 1 troop and 1-2 HS/elite/FA, some of being "modfied troop" like dominions or devestators are)
Tiny races, ones not deserving a whole big release to themselves-but just there to add some more spice into the world of 40k, designed mainly as allied forces, but can work stand-alone if you really like them.
Kroot will be a good candidate for the first minirace, but FW canceled their lines due to poor sales (resulted by god-awful rules)

I say Orks and Eldar (of both flavors) because with all this Marine love they really could use some love too. So could Daemons. Sadly Nids and Tau aren't there yet so are exempt, as are Necrons who don't show up until post-Sisters. But at least the armies that existed at the time should get some love.

I mean who doesn't want to see a Primarch sized Warboss anyways?

Maybe FW should spend the next twenty years making sleeping/hibernating Tyranid and Necron models along with a full range composed only of various stages in Tau evolution.

EDIT: But really I'd prefer them to go back to making interesting 40k content after they're done with 30k.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Maybe FW should spend the next twenty years making sleeping/hibernating Tyranid and Necron models along with a full range composed only of various stages in Tau evolution.

EDIT: But really I'd prefer them to go back to making interesting 40k content after they're done with 30k.

It's not like they're completely neglecting 40k (they are Fantasy at the moment though) as IA12 was a good book (I love the "create your own SC for campaigns" rules in it, even if they're pretty simple they're cool), and IA13 is coming soon with an update to Chaos (and hopefully new stuff). And they've updated a number of the older IA books as well to make the rules inside compatible with the current system (IA4 got an update not too long ago for example). So they're still putting regular IA books out at the same rate as before it seems, but have an accelerated HH release schedule. Once the Heresy is done with I hope that accelerated schedule will apply to the IA books.

Maybe after HH has been well and truly milked they could make soke GC era stuff. Specifically Xenos like the Laer and the Interex for example, and the world from the beginning of Horus Rising for those who know what I'm talking about.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Maybe FW should spend the next twenty years making sleeping/hibernating Tyranid and Necron models along with a full range composed only of various stages in Tau evolution.

EDIT: But really I'd prefer them to go back to making interesting 40k content after they're done with 30k.

It's not like they're completely neglecting 40k (they are Fantasy at the moment though) as IA12 was a good book (I love the "create your own SC for campaigns" rules in it, even if they're pretty simple they're cool), and IA13 is coming soon with an update to Chaos (and hopefully new stuff). And they've updated a number of the older IA books as well to make the rules inside compatible with the current system (IA4 got an update not too long ago for example). So they're still putting regular IA books out at the same rate as before it seems, but have an accelerated HH release schedule. Once the Heresy is done with I hope that accelerated schedule will apply to the IA books.

Don't get me wrong, I love HH. I'd just prefer more cool 40k xenos stuff rather than 30k xenos stuff.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Maybe FW should spend the next twenty years making sleeping/hibernating Tyranid and Necron models along with a full range composed only of various stages in Tau evolution.

EDIT: But really I'd prefer them to go back to making interesting 40k content after they're done with 30k.

It's not like they're completely neglecting 40k (they are Fantasy at the moment though) as IA12 was a good book (I love the "create your own SC for campaigns" rules in it, even if they're pretty simple they're cool), and IA13 is coming soon with an update to Chaos (and hopefully new stuff). And they've updated a number of the older IA books as well to make the rules inside compatible with the current system (IA4 got an update not too long ago for example). So they're still putting regular IA books out at the same rate as before it seems, but have an accelerated HH release schedule. Once the Heresy is done with I hope that accelerated schedule will apply to the IA books.

Don't get me wrong, I love HH. I'd just prefer more cool 40k xenos stuff rather than 30k xenos stuff.

Like this guy who came out with the updated IA4?


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Also the Riptide teased in this image from the new FW newsletter (along with another Knight):

ImAGeek wrote:
Maybe Curze and Corax, from Istvaan? I think Curze could definitely be the coolest Primarch model.

It can show Corax putting the beat down on Curze before Logar saved him

 Ustrello wrote:

ImAGeek wrote:
Maybe Curze and Corax, from Istvaan? I think Curze could definitely be the coolest Primarch model.

It can show Corax putting the beat down on Curze before Logar saved him

Er, wasn't it the other way around? From what I recall correctly from the First Heretic, Lorgar charged in against the counsel of Kor Phaeron against Corax because he was slaughtering the Gal Vorbak and almost died in this engagement before Kurze popped in and cock-blocked Corax's finishing blow.

 Grimskul wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:

ImAGeek wrote:
Maybe Curze and Corax, from Istvaan? I think Curze could definitely be the coolest Primarch model.

It can show Corax putting the beat down on Curze before Logar saved him

Er, wasn't it the other way around? From what I recall correctly from the First Heretic, Lorgar charged in against the counsel of Kor Phaeron against Corax because he was slaughtering the Gal Vorbak and almost died in this engagement before Kurze popped in and cock-blocked Corax's finishing blow.

Pretty much that way, yes.

 Grimskul wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:

ImAGeek wrote:
Maybe Curze and Corax, from Istvaan? I think Curze could definitely be the coolest Primarch model.

It can show Corax putting the beat down on Curze before Logar saved him

Er, wasn't it the other way around? From what I recall correctly from the First Heretic, Lorgar charged in against the counsel of Kor Phaeron against Corax because he was slaughtering the Gal Vorbak and almost died in this engagement before Kurze popped in and cock-blocked Corax's finishing blow.

yeah you are right I got it mixed up. They should of done a logar corax battle scene then like fulgrim and manus

I didn't say that they aren't making any xenos stuff, I just want more! Maybe not like the Dimachaeron, though. I'm not a fan, but the conversion from Tervigon bits is pretty good.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
I didn't say that they aren't making any xenos stuff, I just want more! Maybe not like the Dimachaeron, though. I'm not a fan, but the conversion from Tervigon bits is pretty good.

Fair enough on all counts. I wouldn't mind more Xenos stuff, but I'm dying for some real Sisters support.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
I didn't say that they aren't making any xenos stuff, I just want more! Maybe not like the Dimachaeron, though. I'm not a fan, but the conversion from Tervigon bits is pretty good.

Fair enough on all counts. I wouldn't mind more Xenos stuff, but I'm dying for some real Sisters support.

If FW did a Sisters line like their DKoK, money would leave me so quickly that I might die.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
I didn't say that they aren't making any xenos stuff, I just want more! Maybe not like the Dimachaeron, though. I'm not a fan, but the conversion from Tervigon bits is pretty good.

Fair enough on all counts. I wouldn't mind more Xenos stuff, but I'm dying for some real Sisters support.

If FW did a Sisters line like their DKoK, money would leave me so quickly that I might die.

I would sell six kidneys to fund that army and at least 5 of them wouldn't be mine.

Wait you guys havent started doing that yet? How do you think I was able to afford my death korps...I mean I worked hard yeah thats it

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
I didn't say that they aren't making any xenos stuff, I just want more! Maybe not like the Dimachaeron, though. I'm not a fan, but the conversion from Tervigon bits is pretty good.

Fair enough on all counts. I wouldn't mind more Xenos stuff, but I'm dying for some real Sisters support.

Wait, we still have hope for that?