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Manchu wrote: Nice! There's some cool stuff there. I changed the threat title to reflect this find.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Gosh I hope this isn't Luke:
I tend to think that if it walks and quacks like a duck...
Then again, we know how the director is about his movies. Some of these leaks could be "leaks" and misdirection on his part. That character could be a Vader groupie of sorts, even to the point of replacing his hand.
See, I'm ok with Luke turning evil; A person may be good at heart, and they may triumph over evil, but little by little, bit by bit, evil wears away at your soul thing until the good person is eroded into a hollow shell of a man/woman.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Given that stormtrooper type guy. And the tie, I wonder what they're going to say happened after the battle of Endor.
Did the Empire stick around in some form? If so is it basically what happened in the EU?
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
The short answer is that the EU is no more. The makers stated this awhile back when the film was announced but you still see people jump to EU connections right away anytime it comes up. They want a clean slate to make a movie.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
-Post Endor the Empire is fragmented, the Rebellion is on fire, and trying to clean up.
-Decades later the New Republic (or whatever it will be called) has stagnated and is unable to right the remaining cells of the Empire. Bureaucrats have crippled the ability to fight the empire and the people are tired of a fighting against the remains of an old empire without a visible leader.
-Luke realizes that having a powerful symbol that represents the evil of the Empire gave the rebellion focus and purpose. They knew Vader was evil, and just stopping the empire meant stopping Vader.
-Luke takes the path to become that symbol to give the rebellion renewed focus.
-Vader's helmet = Yorick's skull
-flushes out Sith apprentice in the process
-redeems himself as good at the end like his father before him.
-Post Endor the Empire is fragmented, the Rebellion is on fire, and trying to clean up.
-Decades later the New Republic (or whatever it will be called) has stagnated and is unable to right the remaining cells of the Empire. Bureaucrats have crippled the ability to fight the empire and the people are tired of a fighting against the remains of an old empire without a visible leader.
-Luke realizes that having a powerful symbol that represents the evil of the Empire gave the rebellion focus and purpose. They knew Vader was evil, and just stopping the empire meant stopping Vader.
-Luke takes the path to become that symbol to give the rebellion renewed focus.
-Vader's helmet = Yorick's skull
-flushes out Sith apprentice in the process
-redeems himself as good at the end like his father before him.
That'd work for me. I just don't want luke to die...
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
-Post Endor the Empire is fragmented, the Rebellion is on fire, and trying to clean up.
-Decades later the New Republic (or whatever it will be called) has stagnated and is unable to right the remaining cells of the Empire. Bureaucrats have crippled the ability to fight the empire and the people are tired of a fighting against the remains of an old empire without a visible leader.
-Luke realizes that having a powerful symbol that represents the evil of the Empire gave the rebellion focus and purpose. They knew Vader was evil, and just stopping the empire meant stopping Vader.
-Luke takes the path to become that symbol to give the rebellion renewed focus.
-Vader's helmet = Yorick's skull
-flushes out Sith apprentice in the process
-redeems himself as good at the end like his father before him.
That'd work for me. I just don't want luke to die...
Don't get your hopes up.
I'm of the opinion that the OT cast is there to pretty much "hand over" the franchise to the new up and comers and I don't expect to see them in any other further movies. So I think there is a pretty good chance that some of them won't be alive at the end of the movie, with Luke being at the top of that list.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
Here is some more news that just cruised through my feed:
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
The short answer is that the EU is no more. The makers stated this awhile back when the film was announced but you still see people jump to EU connections right away anytime it comes up. They want a clean slate to make a movie.
I was under the impression that that wasn't strictly true. That is, I know they said that they weren't going to be beholden to the EU, but I thought the implication was that they could still use or change parts of it if they wished, just that they weren't going to be locking themselves into following it. Basically that they'd take it or leave it as necessary.
I wouldn't be surprised if part of the Empire lived on in the form of warlords or something vaguely similar to the EU. Even though that is what happened in the EU, it's not a particularly unique concept, and makes sense that remnants of a galaxy-spanning Empire would still exist in some form in a lot of places. Even if destroying the second Death Star and killing the Emperor was essentially the killing blow, the rest of the Empire could be in its death throes for a while.
Hordini wrote: I was under the impression that that wasn't strictly true.
Thus "the short answer". They aren't using story elements from the EU but if there is something they like they may use it, but in a different way. They also got rid of the "tiers" as well as a lot other things. It is both an attempt to clean up the insanity of the EU as well as doing their own thing. I'm just saying that trying to guess what is in the film by what was in the EU probably won't work.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Hordini wrote: I was under the impression that that wasn't strictly true.
Thus "the short answer". They aren't using story elements from the EU but if there is something they like they may use it, but in a different way. They also got rid of the "tiers" as well as a lot other things. It is both an attempt to clean up the insanity of the EU as well as doing their own thing. I'm just saying that trying to guess what is in the film by what was in the EU probably won't work.
Ah, the short answer. My bad! And yes, you're certainly right about trying to guess what is in the film based on previous EU material.
Manchu wrote: Not to thrilled to hear that honestly. Ewoks are the Gungans of the Original Trilogy.
Hmm... they aren't that bad.
Plus, they have a underlying darkness to them... they were going to eat Han and company.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
The Ewoks aren't great, but they aren't as horrible as the Gungans.
Maybe he'll be like an Ewok bounty hunter or something. They could make it cool. It wouldn't be easy, but they could do it. As long as they don't go full on Teddy Bear Picnic, it might not be that bad.
I'd imagine the Ewoks are going to be back in the film for the first 10 minutes or so during the "Grave Robbing" scene in which our cybernetic Sith steals Vader's charred Helmet.
-Post Endor the Empire is fragmented, the Rebellion is on fire, and trying to clean up.
-Decades later the New Republic (or whatever it will be called) has stagnated and is unable to right the remaining cells of the Empire. Bureaucrats have crippled the ability to fight the empire and the people are tired of a fighting against the remains of an old empire without a visible leader.
-Luke realizes that having a powerful symbol that represents the evil of the Empire gave the rebellion focus and purpose. They knew Vader was evil, and just stopping the empire meant stopping Vader.
-Luke takes the path to become that symbol to give the rebellion renewed focus.
-Vader's helmet = Yorick's skull
-flushes out Sith apprentice in the process
-redeems himself as good at the end like his father before him.
I don't like it at all, because it'd mean that Luke used deceit in order to prolong war. That kinda takes a dump all over everything that the Jedi stood for.
I'm sticking with the idea that it's a red herring, and may in fact be a twist in the movie (i.e. we're led to believe that the guy in the mask is Luke, but it's not). I don't think Abrams is going to break as many eggs as some think.
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Hordini wrote: If the Ewoks had been Wookiees, as originally intended, RotJ would have been much more awesome.
Well, it also would have taken a better script, better direction, and performances that weren't mailed in to get all the way to awesome, but it certainly would have been a major improvement.
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Wait seriously? The only way that is good is if some Imperial survivors are firebombing the Ewoks from orbit, just because.
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