Necron rumors [update: Oct 21] Dynastic army generation (Destroyer centric, Immortal centric, etc.)

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**Slayer-Fan123**

godswildcard wrote:
I could see either/ or happening, really.

Either they streamline everything into the brb spec rules or they start a 'new' 7th edition trend and inject super special everything into the Necrons codex to make it super special. Remember: when things change, there's always a first book that does it!

This would effectively make IG, Orks, GK, and DE players hate life to the fullest extent possible.

So sounds a bit more realistic all the time now that I think about it...

I can understand someone not liking the GK codex, though most of their junk that people miss went to the Inquisition. Needing multiple sources sucks.
HOWEVER, I can't understand people not liking the other ones. DE lost Vect, but gained a MUCH more powerful codex from basic playtesting from what I find.

**godswildcard**

@ Slayer-Fan

I completely agree. I'm loving my new dark elf codex and my flesh circus list, but the DE lost a lot of the things that made them more unique. WWP changed, mass-removal of special characters, etc...

Not all of these changes are bad. But some people would rather play a very unique army over a very powerful one. Really my comment was more referring to if (and its a BIG if) the Necron codex bucks the current trend and maintains lots of unique and special rules that exist outside the brb, other armies are going to feel a bit left out. This is neither here nor there, but is rather just the way things go, but folks would still be upset about it.

**adamsouza**

Grey Knights kept their flavor, their unique thing of all being psykers. (Lost Inquisition, which was peanut butter in their chocolate, and uber bolter ammo)
Orks kept their flavor, mob rule even being more flavorful than it was before
Dark Eldar kept their flavor (S&M,Poison, Power of Pain, assault transports)

**Harriticus**

So GW is doing the bare-bones codex with nothing really changed just to prop up failing sales eh.

It's really disappointing. These codex's are monstrously expensive but barely have artwork anymore.

**Mr Morden**

HOWEVER, I can't understand people not liking the other ones. DE lost Vect, but gained a MUCH more powerful codex from basic playtesting from what I find.

It basically killed tha last vestiages of any chance of playing a Wych Cult list, took away some interesting characters - like Malys, took away stuff like Flickerfields, took away weapon options, made Archons much less effective in CC (for "reasons") and said go buy two books to run your army...........FThat. Oh and nothing new or interesting...

back OT I agree with others suggestions that Necrons will be simplfied and loose various spcl rules like MSS in favour of standard rules. They will buff a few underused units, equally screw over a few more to make sure internal balance is still rubbish, oh and make a supplement describing Imotek's Empire.........

So GW is doing the bare-bones codex with nothing really changed just to prop up failing sales eh. It's really disappointing. These codex's are monstrously expensive but barely have artwork anymore

There are some nice new pics - but rarer than previously and ironically the great pics of Lelith and friends are a but wasted when they screwed over Wyches (again)

**Red Corsair**

skoffs wrote:
MajorStoffer wrote:
I think it's quite amusing that anyone could believe that Necrons of all things might get their own version of "Chapter Tactics," or any kind of force-org modifications.
Like I said, at the moment, we have no reason not to believe them. (Lords Of Wargaming are 6 and 0 for accurate rumor reporting. Their source was spot on for info on the last few codex, so if they say "expect X for army Y", there's a fairly decent chance they're telling the truth).

Wow a whole 6 straight rumors! That is like, the biggest sample size ever! No way anyone has ever guessed right that many times. Or been wrong after!

**pretre**

Red Corsair wrote:
skoffs wrote:
MajorStoffer wrote:
I think it's quite amusing that anyone could believe that Necrons of all things might get their own version of "Chapter Tactics," or any kind of force-org modifications.
Like I said, at the moment, we have no reason not to believe them. (Lords Of Wargaming are 6 and 0 for accurate rumor reporting. Their source was spot on for info on the last few codex, so if they say "expect X for army Y", there's a fairly decent chance they're telling the truth).

Wow a whole 6 straight rumors! That is like, the biggest sample size ever! No way anyone has ever guessed right that many times. Or been wrong after!

I'm going to go ahead and assume you're just trying to be clever for clever's sake. Good for you. I'm sure that's working out really well for you.

That being said... Considering I spend a lot of time tracking rumors, I can go ahead and say that Lords of Wargaming has a good record, not because they are guessing, but because they have some reliable source. Don't believe me? Check their records.

Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (7 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Spoiler:

**MajorStoffer**

It's true, they're reliable, and I forgot to consider GW's combined malice and incompetence meaning that so many armies which deserved customization rules don't get them while Necrons do would fit their MO perfectly.

But to be fair, I'm so unhappy with Guard right now, and the game in general, I don't think it would make me more frustrated to see Necrons get some customization love (I do enjoy playing against them believe it or not, even at the peak of their power), but it would just provide more proof that GW really has lost it, and I'm doing myself a favour by being out-of-country for the next year, and will do my best to ignore everything GW related in the hopes that when I get back something might have changed.

**Wayniac**

Great something else to tempt me back. Necrons are cool

**Davor**

If I had to guess, I think Necrons will get stronger. Why a lot of people think they will get nerfed. Also if they got stronger, that would mean more people jumping ship to buy Necrons, so a quick cash infusion for GW before the 8th edition of 40K coming out in a bout a years time now.

Hell, Necrons can be like Nagash, become oh so powerful. After all isn't the Necrons the Fantasy equivalent? I don't know fantasy, but first time I say Nagash, I thought Oh Fantasy Necron.

**MajorWesJanson**

Davor wrote:

Hell, Necrons can be like Nagash, become oh so powerful. After all isn't the Necrons the Fantasy equivalent? I don't know fantasy, but first time I say Nagash, I thought Oh Fantasy Necron.

Necrons already have a brokenly powerful centerpiece character- the Transcendent C'Tan. The model is small enough to hide behind your average dreadnought though, so it is harder to shoot at, rather than a gigantic model like Nagash.

**Slayer-Fan123**

MajorStoffer wrote:
It's true, they're reliable, and I forgot to consider GW's combined malice and incompetence meaning that so many armies which deserved customization rules don't get them while Necrons do would fit their MO perfectly.

But to be fair, I'm so unhappy with Guard right now, and the game in general, I don't think it would make me more frustrated to see Necrons get some customization love (I do enjoy playing against them believe it or not, even at the peak of their power), but it would just provide more proof that GW really has lost it, and I'm doing myself a favour by being out-of-country for the next year, and will do my best to ignore everything GW related in the hopes that when I get back something might have changed.

Why would you be unhappy with IG? The codex is MUCH better than the last one, allowing quite a few different lists that are actually effective.

**Red Corsair**

pretre wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
skoffs wrote:
MajorStoffer wrote:
I think it's quite amusing that anyone could believe that Necrons of all things might get their own version of "Chapter Tactics," or any kind of force-org modifications.
Like I said, at the moment, we have no reason not to believe them. (Lords Of Wargaming are 6 and 0 for accurate rumor reporting. Their source was spot on for info on the last few codex, so if they say "expect X for army Y", there's a fairly decent chance they're telling the truth).

Wow a whole 6 straight rumors! That is like, the biggest sample size ever! No way anyone has ever guessed right that many times. Or been wrong after!

I'm going to go ahead and assume you're just trying to be clever for clever's sake. Good for you. I'm sure that's working out really well for you.

That being said... Considering I spend a lot of time tracking rumors, I can go ahead and say that Lords of Wargaming has a good record, not because they are guessing, but because they have some reliable source. Don't believe me? Check their records.

Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (7 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Spoiler:

Necron Rumors - Oct 2014
I can't be too specific, but the dynasties will allow certain units to be taken and given certain bonuses.

Release Schedule Rumors - Oct 2014
A little bit of correction of the Necron rumors: They will receive a codex, but it will be in January. There will be a major change to FoC in this codex. You will also see the release of the third "End Times" book in January as well.

Here was their previous rumor bit
Tons of rumors flying around about Necrons and they are all wrong. The Necrons will only see the release of a Necron lord, no codex will be released. Also Tyranids will see the release of two large bugs. The rules for their models will be in the box like the Nagash release. This is also just a model release for the Tyranids, no codex.

Lastly the Blood angels will be released at the end of the year.

Continued in the comments, they state regarding the fluff, "There will be a lot of stuff covering the Dynasties. This is important because they will affect how you can build your armies."

Necron Rumors / Tyranid Rumors/Blood Angel Rumors - Oct 2014

"Tons of rumors flying around about Necrons and they are all wrong. The Necrons will only see the release of a Necron lord, no codex will be released. Also Tyranids will see the release of two large bugs. The rules for their models will be in the box like the Nagash release. This is also just a model release for the Tyranids, no codex.

Lastly the Blood angels will be released at the end of the year."

Grey Knight Rumors - July 2014
Now that Wolves have hit, The next 40k army will be Grey Knights. This release will be codex and data cards only. There will be zero kits for this release. TRUE

Should be soon. BA and DE could be down the road, but my source says GK. He's been right so many times.

Supplement Rumors - June 2014
Sanctus Reach(planet Strike Update) will pre-order next week. TRUE

Release Schedule Rumors / Ork Rumors - May 2014
Orks Collectors codex will have a slipcase that will come with an artbook and a Ghazghkull supplement. The Ghazghkull supplement will be released at a later date. TRUE

Space Wolf Rumors - May 2014
"...this will come as no surprise to you after our talk today but I just talked to my sales rep and he told me that their is a new Space Wolf flyer sitting in the warehouse awaiting release right now. He said the skew for it is already in thier computer system. He said the info for it came up in the computer just before the Wood Elf release." TRUE

7th Edition Rumors - Apr 2014
Lords of War wrote:A new Realm of Battle board will be released with 7th edition. This board will have a "40k/City" theme and will be 6' x 4' with a travel bag like the current Realm of Battle Board.

Lords of War wrote:Is calling BS on the whole "percentages" for your forces in 40K. TRUE

"The next 40k army after Orks will be Space Wolves. Stay tuned for more information on Orks and Space Wolf releases." TRUE

7th Edition Rumors - Apr 2014
7e 40K Rulebook comes in a slipcase with 3 books – rules, miniatures showcase, background TRUE

Actually I was pointing out that they had under ten rumors which means they still should be taken with salt and not be touted as near fact like they have been ITT. It's not like there has been or will be another Harry or Hastings.

It's hilarious that you can post a 7 rumor record like it's some glowing accomplishment. 7 good calls are just that, 7 calls. He could have been in the right place at the right time, once, or he could have had a legitimate source, once. But I guess I should assume your being clever now, Good for you too!

**skoffs**

All I've/we've been saying this whole thread is, judging by the fact that his source has previously come through every time without fail over the past seven(?) months, we have more reason to believe him than not.
If a more reputable rumor/news source comes forward with info that contradicts his, then that'll be different, but so far he's winning.

On the other hand, it seems like you've just been nay saying for nay saying's sake. Remaining skeptical is fine, but there comes a point where it just sounds like denial.

**pretre**

Red Corsair wrote:
Actually I was pointing out that they had under ten rumors which means they still should be taken with salt and not be touted as near fact like they have been ITT. It's not like there has been or will be another Harry or Hastings.

It's hilarious that you can post a 7 rumor record like it's some glowing accomplishment. 7 good calls are just that, 7 calls. He could have been in the right place at the right time, once, or he could have had a legitimate source, once. But I guess I should assume your being clever now, Good for you too!

While I agree that sample size is an important thing to look at, you'll notice that they have commented on a variety of releases which makes their small sample size count for a little more.

**Red Corsair**

pretre wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
Actually I was pointing out that they had under ten rumors which means they still should be taken with salt and not be touted as near fact like they have been ITT. It's not like there has been or will be another Harry or Hastings.

It's hilarious that you can post a 7 rumor record like it's some glowing accomplishment. 7 good calls are just that, 7 calls. He could have been in the right place at the right time, once, or he could have had a legitimate source, once. But I guess I should assume your being clever now, Good for you too!

While I agree that sample size is an important thing to look at, you'll notice that they have commented on a variety of releases which makes their small sample size count for a little more.

That's a fair point, while I appreciate the data, I guess I am more inclined to remain a skeptic with these things. After all, they wouldn't be the first or only rumor mongers to have a great/perfect record get trashed quick.

**angelofvengeance**

A shadow looms over the galaxy, a herald of death and destruction. So ready your lasguns, recite your litanies of accuracy and pray to the Emperor because you’re going to need all the help, faith and ammunition you can get. Come back on Saturday 1st November to find out more about the latest threat to the Imperium of Man.

From the GW blog today.. There is a YouTube vid as well but that's set on Private.

**NecronLord3**

angelofvengeance wrote:
A shadow looms over the galaxy, a herald of death and destruction. So ready your lasguns, recite your litanies of accuracy and pray to the Emperor because you’re going to need all the help, faith and ammunition you can get. Come back on Saturday 1st November to find out more about the latest threat to the Imperium of Man.

From the GW blog today.. There is a YouTube vid as well but that's set on Private.

it's the Tyranid splash release next week. New Model(s) with packaged Dataslate/rules.

**skoffs**

Might be those new Tyranid kits coming out soon.
I doubt they'd say anything official about 'Crons before BA.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Dammit, Ninja'd by 30secs.

**angelofvengeance**

~~A Herald of Death & Destruction.. that kinda says Necrons to me...~~
Scratch that..

Nids it is...

**skoffs**

Lords Of Wargaming claimed a while back that next campaign after Storm Claw would be BA vs Tyranid, particularly mentioning hive fleet Leviathan.

Just revealed: New campaign set is called "Shield of Baal: Leviathan".

Looks like they were right again.

Likelihood that their source is right about Necrons is increasing more and more.
Look forward to your Dynasty Tactics, guys.

**wuestenfux**

Indeed, BA vs. Nids and the BA codex will be next.
I'll hope for Crons in January.
Will there be something special before Christmas to boost Christmas sales?

**NecronLord3**

Sounds like they will repeat the stormclaw box model. 1 Blood Angels character, one Necron character and a sprue or two from each existing plastic kits.

**skoffs**

NecronLord3 wrote:
Sounds like they will repeat the stormclaw box model. 1 Blood Angels character, one Necron character and a sprue or two from each existing plastic kits.

Why would they put a Necron model inside a Blood Angel / Tyranid box?
O_o

**Sidstyler**

skoffs wrote:
NecronLord3 wrote:
Sounds like they will repeat the stormclaw box model. 1 Blood Angels character, one Necron character and a sprue or two from each existing plastic kits.
Why would they put a Necron model inside a Blood Angel / Tyranid box?
O_o

Well obviously he's a friend of the BA captain.

**NecronLord3**

skoffs wrote:
NecronLord3 wrote:
Sounds like they will repeat the stormclaw box model. 1 Blood Angels character, one Necron character and a sprue or two from each existing plastic kits.
Why would they put a Necron model inside a Blood Angel / Tyranid box?
O_o

The rumors are sounding more like a Necron vs. Blood angels box is coming out, that would explain the "new" Necron plastic Lord rumor we've been hearing, though it would make more since for just a new plastic lord kit to replace the warped Finecast model.

**Kangodo**

Even when the White Dwarf says it's named "Shield of Baal: Leviathan"?

**NecronLord3**

I could be the box set after that

**Anpu-adom**

Necrons would not be in a product called, "Shield of Baal: Leviathan". Now, if it were titled "Gehenna" then yes, we would get an interesting 3 person campeign (Nids, BA, and Necrons).

I don't expect Necrons to be a part of a campaign set... just like Grey Knights haven't been in a campaign set. I do have high hopes for a set based on Sanctuary 101... because I'd buy the crap out of that set.

**Sinful Hero**

Anpu-adom wrote:
Necrons would not be in a product called, "Shield of Baal: Leviathan". Now, if it were titled "Gehenna" then yes, we would get an interesting 3 person campeign (Nids, BA, and Necrons).

I don't expect Necrons to be a part of a campaign set... just like Grey Knights haven't been in a campaign set. I do have high hopes for a set based on Sanctuary 101... because I'd buy the crap out of that set.

Awww yisss. We can dream can't we?