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 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Reading Kasym Beg's new page on the Infinity website:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/2014/miniatures/kasym-beg-kum-chieftain/

It would seem that's the end of Izzat Beg.

DAMN, that is some ice-cold shiz. Looks like CB have decided to add a serious antihero to the Haqq team. The emotional/social complexity of their fluff is great.

Can someone repost the fluff here, for the workblocked?

Thanks!

"Kasym Beg. That’s me. Highwayman, asphalt warrior. A beast on the battlefield and in the bedroom. The ruthless usurper of a criminal empire. The killer of the man who took me in as his son and raised me for great things. A man possessed by the demons of lust and ambition. A man dragged to the top by the forceful passion of two women.

My story begins with a boy who dazzled the greatest Kum chieftain of Gabqar with his talent for falconry. Izzat Beg took me in, trained me personally and made me his right hand. I was destined to succeed him when he decided to quit, and anybody would have been satisfied with that. But I am not just anybody. Izzat Beg himself taught me that, if I wanted something, I ought to take it and make it mine, for that is the only way to truly own something. It just so happened that Izzat Beg had something I wanted: the beautiful Nazarova twins, Zuleyka and Zamira. His peach-skinned, gorgeous concubines. The fiercest tigresses in the chieftain’s harem. I was true to myself and to my father’s teachings when I took them and made them mine. Both of them. Yet I knew it was a grave mistake, one that could cost me my life. Because Izzat Beg never shared his rides: not his bikes, and not his women. If he ever found out about our bout of passion, the three of us would be carrion for the vultures. I could have left the Nazarova twins, forgotten it all and kept things simple, but the girls wouldn’t have gone easy on me. They wanted power as much as I did, or perhaps more. There was no other way: Izzat Beg had to die before he got wind of anything and decided to take me out.

The old man went down fighting like the lion he had always been, but this pride has a new leader: younger, stronger, and more resolute. Izzat Beg died by my hand, but I am not an ungrateful dog, and I bear these scars as a memento of that final fight, as a tribute to the man who was a father to me. My father gave me nothing, everything I have I wrested from him. His clan, his business, his fortune, his women and his deals with the Gabqar Khanate. Everything I want, I take, and I make mine. That’s me. Kasym Beg, the greatest of the Kum chieftains."

Hot damn, CB.

I told you he was Conan.

Noir wrote:


N3 is a "restart" of fluff. Done from the same time as the first one and also meant for new players reading the fluff. CB has said they don't want to ruin the story for people who want to read all 3 books. So no fluff on Tohaa except the "native race on planet" bit.

Heheh...

They don't want people to stop buying those books. I'm guessing they have enough in stock to try and push them out before they become so irrelevant that nobody wants them.
Whatever, I bought HS & Paradiso. They're good reads, but nobody is going to be referencing them for rules anymore...

Wait, someone was still referencing HS for rules?

I like the fluff for beg.

It's nice that they have accounted for getting rid of unicycle beg

Haha, love that bit of background!

I wonder if at some point they will make miniatures of the 'Nazarova twins'

You guys missed the obvious.
"Nazarova twins, Zuleyka and Zamira" new bootleg minis ^^

As much as I dont like Hqqislam I rly want CB to make them.

Edit: @Pacific, thats my man

 Pacific wrote:
Haha, love that bit of background!

I wonder if at some point they will make miniatures of the 'Nazarova twins'

They've already said they will be; and what's more for whatever reason they felt it necessary to emphasize when discussing them that the "Nazarova twins" are bisexual.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Haha, love that bit of background!

I wonder if at some point they will make miniatures of the 'Nazarova twins'

They've already said they will be; and what's more for whatever reason they felt it necessary to emphasize when discussing them that the "Nazarova twins" are bisexual.

That will add a layer of realism to clinking the models together and making kissing noises that would otherwise have been lacking.

 GrenAcid wrote:
You guys missed the obvious.
"Nazarova twins, Zuleyka and Zamira" new bootleg minis ^^

As much as I dont like Hqqislam I rly want CB to make them.

Edit: @Pacific, thats my man

Why are you assuming bootleg?

Aren't the twins basically going to be the female Kum rider box?

Bostria has stated more than once and more than twice that there will not be either fluff or army lists in the N3 book for ALEPH and Tohaa, and has also stated that both factions still will be having new units, being the profiles available in pdf and the Infinity Army. If those units are included in a book, it will be Acheron Falls.

So, no full Bolt list until Acheron Falls, whenever that'll be. Bah.

 Barzam wrote:
So, no full Bolt list until Acheron Falls, whenever that'll be. Bah.

Um...

Bolts already have a "full list". Neoterran Capitaline Army(NCA) for PanOceania has them as AVA: Total.


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 Erasoketa wrote:
Bostria has stated more than once and more than twice that there will not be either fluff or army lists in the N3 book for ALEPH and Tohaa, and has also stated that both factions still will be having new units, being the profiles available in pdf and the Infinity Army. If those units are included in a book, it will be Acheron Falls.

Except that has nothing to do with the Combined Army starter set, which includes two Sygmaa(Tohaa) Trihedron models, and is the topic of this discussion.

The Bolt list as it currently stands does not include the Drop Bears. I seem to recall hearing that they would be added in with either N3 or Acheron Falls and that the current list is pretty much placeholder.

 Barzam wrote:
The Bolt list as it currently stands does not include the Drop Bears. I seem to recall hearing that they would be added in with either N3 or Acheron Falls and that the current list is pretty much placeholder.

They said the Drop Bear as writing wouldn't work with N2 so we wouldn't get the Drop Bear option (also hinted to be the Engneer) until atleast N3. I'm guessing they add the Blots missing options when the Army Builder updates to N3. They said the 1st of the year, with the online N3 rules later that month.

I would actually like a refinement of how the Crazy Koala works.. it seems to be far too powerful at the moment in the games I have seen it used?

 -Loki- wrote:
Aren't the twins basically going to be the female Kum rider box?

Wow.. you mean to say that they are actually being releaed?!

 Pacific wrote:
I would actually like a refinement of how the Crazy Koala works.. it seems to be far too powerful at the moment in the games I have seen it used?

Things to remember when facing CKS:

They do nothing in their own turn other than move.
They must go off if an active enemy model does anything in range, they can't be held back. Note that this includes Holoechoes.
There is no PH modifier to Dodge them.

So as much as they're nasty, a simple Move-Dodge will trigger them and even a basic line trooper has something like a 60% chance of either Dodging or failing to Dodge but still passing the ARM roll.

 Pacific wrote:
I would actually like a refinement of how the Crazy Koala works.. it seems to be far too powerful at the moment in the games I have seen it used?

 -Loki- wrote:
Aren't the twins basically going to be the female Kum rider box?

Wow.. you mean to say that they are actually being releaed?!

On Mayacast I think I remember Tom mentioning that there's going to be a box with 2 female Kum, im guessing they're the Twins. Infact I think I recall him saying the Twins at somepoint. Nice fluff for Kasym.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Erasoketa wrote:
Bostria has stated more than once and more than twice that there will not be either fluff or army lists in the N3 book for ALEPH and Tohaa, and has also stated that both factions still will be having new units, being the profiles available in pdf and the Infinity Army. If those units are included in a book, it will be Acheron Falls.

Except that has nothing to do with the Combined Army starter set, which includes two Sygmaa(Tohaa) Trihedron models, and is the topic of this discussion.

Well...

 Pacific wrote:

 IJW wrote:

Bear in mind this is a direct replacement for the main rulebook (which chronologically comes before the Tohaa were known about by Humans) and that Merc Companies are supposedly coming in Acheron Falls. The chances of there being aby Tohaa background in it are pretty much zero and new Merc background doesn't seem likely either. :(

I would be very, very surprised if the background for the Tohaa (at least some mention of them) isn't inserted into the new book. Actually, probably shocked would be a better word!

We've seen how the background has been progressed, with Ko Dali etc. and the arrival on Paradiso. I reckon there will probably be a small subsection on those (and perhaps even a mention for 'Archon Falls') as well as links to those books.

ephrael wrote:

 Casey's Law wrote:

Noir wrote:

 Casey's Law wrote:
The art will be the big kicker for me, then the lore. As long as there are lots of new specimens in both categories I'll be happy. I would advise you don't go expecting any more than that and refined rules.

Yeah I can't wait to read the new Nomad fluff.

Big time! What are we hoping for? Black Hand?

I'm looking forward to new fluff, particularly the Tohaa, Mercs and Nomads. Black Hand is certainly at the top of my wish list for this book.

Yeah, that might be the topic for some people. Not for everyone.

 Guildsman wrote:
"Kasym Beg. That’s me. Highwayman, asphalt warrior. A beast on the battlefield and in the bedroom. The ruthless usurper of a criminal empire. The killer of the man who took me in as his son and raised me for great things. A man possessed by the demons of lust and ambition. A man dragged to the top by the forceful passion of two women.

My story begins with a boy who dazzled the greatest Kum chieftain of Gabqar with his talent for falconry. Izzat Beg took me in, trained me personally and made me his right hand. I was destined to succeed him when he decided to quit, and anybody would have been satisfied with that. But I am not just anybody. Izzat Beg himself taught me that, if I wanted something, I ought to take it and make it mine, for that is the only way to truly own something. It just so happened that Izzat Beg had something I wanted: the beautiful Nazarova twins, Zuleyka and Zamira. His peach-skinned, gorgeous concubines. The fiercest tigresses in the chieftain’s harem. I was true to myself and to my father’s teachings when I took them and made them mine. Both of them. Yet I knew it was a grave mistake, one that could cost me my life. Because Izzat Beg never shared his rides: not his bikes, and not his women. If he ever found out about our bout of passion, the three of us would be carrion for the vultures. I could have left the Nazarova twins, forgotten it all and kept things simple, but the girls wouldn’t have gone easy on me. They wanted power as much as I did, or perhaps more. There was no other way: Izzat Beg had to die before he got wind of anything and decided to take me out.

The old man went down fighting like the lion he had always been, but this pride has a new leader: younger, stronger, and more resolute. Izzat Beg died by my hand, but I am not an ungrateful dog, and I bear these scars as a memento of that final fight, as a tribute to the man who was a father to me. My father gave me nothing, everything I have I wrested from him. His clan, his business, his fortune, his women and his deals with the Gabqar Khanate. Everything I want, I take, and I make mine. That’s me. Kasym Beg, the greatest of the Kum chieftains."

Hot damn, CB.

Great mini. I'm not particularly impressed with his life altering motivation being trying to sleep with his stepmothers though. Someone at CB must have had a parent remarry recently during a midlife crisis!

Wanted to chime in to mention that I'm convinced that Paradiso will be referred to in the N3-book. The N2-book also mentioned it as it is an important historical event in the time line of the human sphere. That being said, CB will not make the Campaign Paradiso-book obsolete by including more than a reference to the already published book's contents.
They have been so careful to communicate to their business partners that the other books will stay entirely valid purchases, they are not going to jeopardise that now.
Expect the core fluff plus a few words on the wider scope of events. The rest will be left to the existing other two books and the upcoming AF.

 IJW wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
I would actually like a refinement of how the Crazy Koala works.. it seems to be far too powerful at the moment in the games I have seen it used?

Things to remember when facing CKS:

They do nothing in their own turn other than move.
They must go off if an active enemy model does anything in range, they can't be held back. Note that this includes Holoechoes.
There is no PH modifier to Dodge them.

So as much as they're nasty, a simple Move-Dodge will trigger them and even a basic line trooper has something like a 60% chance of either Dodging or failing to Dodge but still passing the ARM roll.

Dont forget that even stupid-warcor trigger them, god I hate that OP model.

 Alkasyn wrote:

 GrenAcid wrote:
You guys missed the obvious.
"Nazarova twins, Zuleyka and Zamira" new bootleg minis ^^

As much as I dont like Hqqislam I rly want CB to make them.

Edit: @Pacific, thats my man

Why are you assuming bootleg?

Cuz harem-girls dosnt belong to battlefield, no matter how awesome is guy they sleep with.

What if you have a space elf hover junk to put them on?

 Alkasyn wrote:

 GrenAcid wrote:
You guys missed the obvious.
"Nazarova twins, Zuleyka and Zamira" new bootleg minis ^^

As much as I dont like Hqqislam I rly want CB to make them.

Edit: @Pacific, thats my man

Why are you assuming bootleg?

Cuz harem-girls dosnt belong to battlefield, no matter how awesome is guy they sleep with.

Noir wrote:


The Haqqislam fluff says your wrong, there is already a unit made up of badass harem-girls.

Hahahahahahaha yeah badass....nice one. Lets stay out of this path that leads to goat jokes.
If you like them ist cool mate, I dont...for me there is only one badass Haqq unit, Janisares(half of them arent Haqq*hint* *hint*).

If what Alkasyn is saying comes true, I only hope Nomads will get some bike unit in Archeon Falls so I can convert those babes in to my force.

 GrenAcid wrote:

 Alkasyn wrote:

 GrenAcid wrote:
You guys missed the obvious.
"Nazarova twins, Zuleyka and Zamira" new bootleg minis ^^

As much as I dont like Hqqislam I rly want CB to make them.

Edit: @Pacific, thats my man

Why are you assuming bootleg?

Cuz harem-girls dosnt belong to battlefield, no matter how awesome is guy they sleep with.

Pretty sure the Twins mentioned there are gonna be the female Kum bikers, for the reasons I stated above. And as already said - Odalisques.

 GrenAcid wrote:

Noir wrote:


The Haqqislam fluff says your wrong, there is already a unit made up of badass harem-girls.

Hahahahahahaha yeah badass....nice one. Lets stay out of this path that leads to goat jokes.
If you like them ist cool mate, I dont...for me there is only one badass Haqq unit, Janisares(half of them arent Haqq*hint* *hint*).

If what Alkasyn is saying comes true, I only hope Nomads will get some bike unit in Archeon Falls so I can convert those babes in to my force.

Use Vanilla Nomads -> take three ABH -> pray that you get a bike in the Booty lvl 2 table