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 PsychoticStorm wrote:

 tommse wrote:


Just a pet peeve but asba German I still wonder why they didn't correct that "Die Morlock Gruppen" gibberish... It's half way there but it makes me cringe every time...

Because its intentionally wrong, Nomads been Nomads and all that.

Funny how Alguaciles and Mobile Brigada aren't "intentionally wrong", Nomads being Nomads and all that.

What 'should' it read as then?

I can't remember since it was first raised in the first forum a decade ago, but it was intentionally left wrong because Morlocks are not a German group inside Bakunin, but a detention facility for the worse Bakunin has, their name is pseudo German alluding to the techno industrial theme they have.

Alguaciles have a reason to be named correctly, Corregidor been a huge Latin America prison and all that.

I've only been collecting /dabbling in Infinity for a couple years now, but I'm curious if CB influences the story arc in the fluff based on tournament results in ITS.

IDK how many of you are familiar with Legend of the Five Rings by AEG, but they do a campaign system where the player community's decisions influence what happens in the universe. AEG still dictates the major events of the plot itself. However characters within it change alliances, get killed off, or imprisoned all based on how well your particular faction ranks in official competition. Granted this works easily because its a CCG and there's a zillion unique personalities. Most importantly, it's driven by the game's dedicated fanbase.

Is there anything like this in ITS? Infinity characters are all really based off a unit already in the army lists. Also, we all know the Ko Dali story. Infinity has a dedicated community that does a great deal of legwork for CB to promote the game.

With ITS 2015 upon us presently, I wonder if competition results will ever influence the lore of Infinity & how factions' personalities interact in the fluff.

CB puts a great deal of effort into game balance & organizing ITS fairly in official competition. I wonder if they plan to take the next step and let the tournament results influence the game world in some manner?

Funnily enough, AEG has had to back off that a little bit as it's led to really strange things in the story.

It also means that it's usually only the most power gamer types dictate the story outcomes, which is a bad idea overall.

So, I don't think it's a good idea to let the players make all the decisions. Sometimes the worst decision a designer can make is to give players exactly what they want.

Most good game designers will take community desires into mind anyway when designing units or new story elements.

A lot of the recent talk in here is probably better suited for threads down in the INFINITY area here - 3 sub-forums dedicated solely for INFINITY talk.

Thanks!

So for those who have missed or didnt bother to watch:

Finals Night:



Angel for best pait job on Kum Raiders

Infinity for best Sci-Fi game.


Leave Infinity in CB hands, so far that worked great.

 GrenAcid wrote:
So for those who have missed or didnt bother to watch:

Finals Night:



Angel for best pait job on Kum Raiders

Infinity for best Sci-Fi game.


Leave Infinity in CB hands, so far that worked great.

Thanks for the update - it is appreciated!

I've got to ask though, what did you mean by this:

Leave Infinity in CB hands, so far that worked great.

^^^That tournament results ( ie the players) should not influence the background or story advancement of the game. Only CB should do that

It appears the N3 pdf profile update will be huge, in terms of page count. And we won't see it tomorrow either ( It's Epiphany. The 12th day of Christmas...) But we will get it the proverbial soon.

Koni has promised to let all know ASAP when it is available. Maybe by Friday?

Maybe we'll get a preview of one of this month's miniatures in the meantime?

The thing I'm well and properly interested in is when they get all of that stuff into the army builder I can look at point drops and reconfigurations all day long but until I have an easy way to swap things in and out of a list most of it goes over my head

Koni says:

No tengo nada de info porque yo no intervengo en la "Tarea de los PDF". Mañana no lo esperéis y pasado tampoco ya que CB estará cerrado. Ni os voy a decir que antes del viernes estará porque quizá no sea verdad. Cuando estén listos, yo personalmente os lo comunicaré raudo y veloz.

Google says Koni says:

I have nothing of info because I do not speak on "Task PDF " . Tomorrow you did not expect , nor passed since CB is closed . Neither I am going to say before Friday because it may not be true. When ready , I personally communicate what you swift and fast .

 Absolutionis wrote:
Koni says:

No tengo nada de info porque yo no intervengo en la "Tarea de los PDF". Mañana no lo esperéis y pasado tampoco ya que CB estará cerrado. Ni os voy a decir que antes del viernes estará porque quizá no sea verdad. Cuando estén listos, yo personalmente os lo comunicaré raudo y veloz.

Google says Koni says:

I have nothing of info because I do not speak on "Task PDF " . Tomorrow you did not expect , nor passed since CB is closed . Neither I am going to say before Friday because it may not be true. When ready , I personally communicate what you swift and fast .

"I have no info because I'm not involved with the "pdf mission". Don't expect to see it tomorrow nor the day after that, as CB will be closed. Won't say "before friday" either because it might not be true. When they're finished, I'll personally tell you lightning fast."

 Alpharius wrote:

 GrenAcid wrote:
So for those who have missed or didnt bother to watch:

Finals Night:



Angel for best pait job on Kum Raiders

Infinity for best Sci-Fi game.


Leave Infinity in CB hands, so far that worked great.

Thanks for the update - it is appreciated!

I've got to ask though, what did you mean by this:

Leave Infinity in CB hands, so far that worked great.

Yes congrats for CB winning that award, it was against some stiff competition this year for best sci-fi game.

Re. the last comment, I wonder if GrenAcid means in terms of the development of the game and background in the hands of developers?

I suppose a comparison would be the Star Wars Galaxies computer game, as well as Ultima Online, which were ultimately wrecked because the developers caved into fan demand and wrecked the core mechanics of how the game worked.

CB already has a master plan for the Infinity story line, and while the story has changed from the one planned it has nothing to do with ITS. It has every thing to do with the growth of the Infinity game. So instead of the planned CA taking over the HS, with the Nomads close to following the rest of the HS as their supply lines are gone and the low tech hard ass Dawn governments becoming the saviors of the Human race. We will just have to wait.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:
Koni says:

No tengo nada de info porque yo no intervengo en la "Tarea de los PDF". Mañana no lo esperéis y pasado tampoco ya que CB estará cerrado. Ni os voy a decir que antes del viernes estará porque quizá no sea verdad. Cuando estén listos, yo personalmente os lo comunicaré raudo y veloz.

Google says Koni says:

I have nothing of info because I do not speak on "Task PDF " . Tomorrow you did not expect , nor passed since CB is closed . Neither I am going to say before Friday because it may not be true. When ready , I personally communicate what you swift and fast .

"I have no info because I'm not involved with the "pdf mission". Don't expect to see it tomorrow nor the day after that, as CB will be closed. Won't say "before friday" either because it might not be true. When they're finished, I'll personally tell you lightning fast."

Say "quick as a wink" in lieu of "lightning fast". It's best to translate idiom for idiom whenever possible, but it seems that lightning fast isn't quite the idiom for here, IMHO. Either way, El Estimado Koni will let us know Either way...

Edit because I seem to confuse the quote button with the edit button :(

Noir wrote:
CB already has a master plan for the Infinity story line, and while the story has changed from the one planned it has nothing to do with ITS. It has every thing to do with the growth of the Infinity game. So instead of the planned CA taking over the HS, with the Nomads close to following the rest of the HS as their supply lines are gone and the low tech hard ass Dawn governments becoming the saviors of the Human race. We will just have to wait.

I'd be surprised if they actually 'ended' the story now. It feels like the original intention was put aside due to the massive popularity of the game. While they probably have an end in mind, as they plan on the books progressing the storyline, it will probably be saved for when the games popularity dwindles.

Revised ending for Infinity:

The camera pans over shots of Humanity triumphiant over the Combined forces and fade to the series credits. Then, half way through the credits, fade back to a Matrix like scene showing Ur drones tending humans in bio-tubes. As one of the drones tends a tube, warning lights go off and the humans in the tubes vanish.



What red pill?

 Alpharius wrote:

 GrenAcid wrote:
So for those who have missed or didnt bother to watch:

Finals Night:



Angel for best pait job on Kum Raiders

Infinity for best Sci-Fi game.


Leave Infinity in CB hands, so far that worked great.

Thanks for the update - it is appreciated!

I've got to ask though, what did you mean by this:

Leave Infinity in CB hands, so far that worked great.

Red Harvest got it right I think CB is doing fine on story progres and giving weel to players migh unbalance game, since we fluff teddy bears dont win tournaments.

I've got to admit, I haven't really come across anything/anyone stating otherwise.

Is this a 'big thing' somewhere else then?

Not the best of news but someone on the infinity forums asked on twitter to CB how the status of the rest of the PDFs are comming and they said "we are working hard on it." :/

Honestly, I'm more concerned about the fact that Geckos are only dropping a single point for the Combi Rifle variant (according to -V-, who is working with the new statlines).

 Kanluwen wrote:
Honestly, I'm more concerned about the fact that Geckos are only dropping a single point for the Combi Rifle variant (according to -V-, who is working with the new statlines).

And why would that be concerning?

Pdfs are not coming today, said by koni on the Spanish forums, he responded to the invocations mainly because they were going cultist and someone posted pics of Natalia Poklonskaya.

Let's hope they arrive before Saturday because I have a tourney.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Honestly, I'm more concerned about the fact that Geckos are only dropping a single point for the Combi Rifle variant (according to -V-, who is working with the new statlines).

And why would that be concerning?

Really?

Hackers are now essentially a "must-have" for the game. They bring a ton for what amounts to a very minimal point investiture.

Geckos, unless they're drastically being overhauled, just do not have the defensive measures necessary to survive in a Hacker heavy game. They're BTS 3 as it stands right now with no ECMs and most prevalent in a Sectorial where there are no DHDs or HD+.

Couple that with an obscene points cost for infantry weapons on a platform that can have the pilot ejected via "Expel" and having to pay(like a lot of Corregidor's stuff anyways) for 0G Terrain--it boggles the mind that someone thinks a reduction of a single point is acceptable.

Kan's got a good point - several in fact!

Also, because you made me look:

The bait has been placed, now the question is if Koni will answer the call.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Hackers are now essentially a "must-have" for the game. They bring a ton for what amounts to a very minimal point investiture.

Geckos, unless they're drastically being overhauled, just do not have the defensive measures necessary to survive in a Hacker heavy game. They're BTS 3 as it stands right now with no ECMs and most prevalent in a Sectorial where there are no DHDs or HD+.

Couple that with an obscene points cost for infantry weapons on a platform that can have the pilot ejected via "Expel" and having to pay(like a lot of Corregidor's stuff anyways) for 0G Terrain--it boggles the mind that someone thinks a reduction of a single point is acceptable.

I'd wait to see what changes happened to Valeria and Wildcats.

Valerya Gromoz is a Mercenary and thus I do not count her, Massacre, or McMurrough as part of Corregidor.

Yea I have to admit that I saw the gecko models and fell in love but then looked them up and was puzzled as to why they were basically much worse overall then most YuJing heavy infantry.

They look like a TAG but they play like HI.

I would wait until everything has come out in the wash before jumping to conclusions..

I'm sure CB wouldn't want to nerf one of their coolest looking (and no doubt best-selling) models with poor balance issues.

 Alpharius wrote:

Also, because you made me look:

Spoiler:

Natalia Poklonskaya
Prosecutor General of Crimea
After Crimea came under Russian control, her appointment was confirmed by Russian authorities on 25 March 2014.

I'm being a bit slow - what has this got to do with anything?