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Mr.Church13 wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Good. My buddy hates "fan-servicey" minis so I can pick this up without complaint of me stepping on his toes.

I can always paint her with skintights on. So get off my lawn.

Besides I also have the Penny reissue and I love that.

Hush you! What ever happened to that One-Shot mini anyway?

You hate them and that's the end of it! Get into Yu Jing or Haqqislam and I'll take USAriadna as my second faction.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 warboss wrote:
USARF? Is that supposed to be a dog warrior joke?!? I guess the Wulver Offensive Operation Force taken already...

United States Ariadnan Reconaissance Force.

Thanks. I still think my WOOF idea is better than ARF.

I think they're both pretty good and funny!

Well done to everyone!

Infinity Bootcamp - Day One:

Dear God those are some sausage fingers!

The Bootcamp tables look nice:

Yea those tables are envy worthy. Could spend a fortune acquiring all the kits they have there. Must be nice getting it donated

And some of that excitement immediately dies, seeing as how it's two Antipodes/Wulver/whatever silhouetted as "USAriadnan Marines".


Hurrrr. Because the Marines have been called "Devil Dogs" since WW1. Get it guys?!

I agree. The werewolves are the worst part of Ariadna. I was really hoping The U.S. Faction would downplay them. Guess not.

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I agree. The werewolves are the worst part of Ariadna. I was really hoping The U.S. Faction would downplay them. Guess not.

Fun Fact: the wolf-things are the part of Ariadna most likely to get me to play the faction That and the dude with the bow

- Salvage

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I agree. The werewolves are the worst part of Ariadna. I was really hoping The U.S. Faction would downplay them. Guess not.

Honestly, the US faction downplaying them is virtually impossible.

USAriadna is constantly at war with the Antipode tribes, and the animosity between the Antipodes and USAriadnans is to the point where the first fortress-city we've seen for USAriadna(in the N3 Core book)?
There are crucified antipodes on the walls.

My annoyance is the fact that they chose to label them as the Marines--because y'know, Marines have been called "Devil Dogs" since WWI. The guys at Corvus Belli think they're clever with crap like that and it really is nothing but annoying.

Yea I really like the dogfaces and antipode packs.

Seriously, how many repackaged spec ops do you guys want?

Spetznaz, metroids, SAS... Surely something new needs to be added to a scifi game otherwise it's like playing call of duty.

People are welcome to like whatever they want. I was just hoping for a sub faction that didn't have them.

That or a sub faction with straight up leather clad vampires so we can just get all the underworld armies out of the way.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Yea I really like the dogfaces and antipode packs.

Seriously, how many repackaged spec ops do you guys want?

Spetznaz, metroids, SAS... Surely something new needs to be added to a scifi game otherwise it's like playing call of duty.

The funny part is that if you take a look at the Merovingian Sectorial? There is literally one werewolf in the entire faction, as part of a two model character set(Margot and Duroc).

Yet nobody claimed that Sectorial needed "more scifi"...

 Kanluwen wrote:

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I agree. The werewolves are the worst part of Ariadna. I was really hoping The U.S. Faction would downplay them. Guess not.

Honestly, the US faction downplaying them is virtually impossible.

USAriadna is constantly at war with the Antipode tribes, and the animosity between the Antipodes and USAriadnans is to the point where the first fortress-city we've seen for USAriadna(in the N3 Core book)?
There are crucified antipodes on the walls.

My annoyance is the fact that they chose to label them as the Marines--because y'know, Marines have been called "Devil Dogs" since WWI. The guys at Corvus Belli think they're clever with crap like that and it really is nothing but annoying.

I think that's a stretch, I NEVER hear marines referred to as devil dogs outside of textbooks.

Now, if they had mason jars for hats I'd see your beef.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Yea I really like the dogfaces and antipode packs.

Seriously, how many repackaged spec ops do you guys want?

Spetznaz, metroids, SAS... Surely something new needs to be added to a scifi game otherwise it's like playing call of duty.

The funny part is that if you take a look at the Merovingian Sectorial? There is literally one werewolf in the entire faction, as part of a two model character set(Margot and Duroc).

Yet nobody claimed that Sectorial needed "more scifi"...

Kan, I'm talking the Ariadnan faction as a whole, not sectorials. Clearly if every model has dog parts it becomes tired, but sionce as you stated, USA Marines fight them the most, it makes the most sense for them to have dog faces.

 Red Corsair wrote:

I think that's a stretch, I NEVER hear marines referred to as devil dogs outside of textbooks.

Now, if they had mason jars for hats I'd see your beef.

It's really not that much of a stretch. The guys at Corvus Belli love to talk about how they are "big fans of history" and how they "have been trying to incorporate historical elements without going too far" from their own ideas.

See the "Grenzers" for Tunguska as an example.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Kan, I'm talking the Ariadnan faction as a whole, not sectorials. Clearly if every model has dog parts it becomes tired, but sionce as you stated, USA Marines fight them the most, it makes the most sense for them to have dog faces.

I stated that USAriadna fight them the most.

Going by Corvus Belli's own fluff, there was no Marine contingent in the settlers. It was a Ranger security detachment.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

I think that's a stretch, I NEVER hear marines referred to as devil dogs outside of textbooks.

Now, if they had mason jars for hats I'd see your beef.

It's really not that much of a stretch. The guys at Corvus Belli love to talk about how they are "big fans of history" and how they "have been trying to incorporate historical elements without going too far" from their own ideas.

See the "Grenzers" for Tunguska as an example.

But why is that bad? Your making it sound like the reference is outright full ham in your face when it isn't. I have no problem with a nod to a historical referrence when it fits and is not forced. It could be coincidence, probably not as you stated, but the fact that we are debating it means they aren't hamfisting it in like a GW trope.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

I think that's a stretch, I NEVER hear marines referred to as devil dogs outside of textbooks.

Now, if they had mason jars for hats I'd see your beef.

It's really not that much of a stretch. The guys at Corvus Belli love to talk about how they are "big fans of history" and how they "have been trying to incorporate historical elements without going too far" from their own ideas.

See the "Grenzers" for Tunguska as an example.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Kan, I'm talking the Ariadnan faction as a whole, not sectorials. Clearly if every model has dog parts it becomes tired, but sionce as you stated, USA Marines fight them the most, it makes the most sense for them to have dog faces.

I stated that USAriadna fight them the most.

Going by Corvus Belli's own fluff, there was no Marine contingent in the settlers. It was a Ranger security detachment.

Well heres the best part, it's their game so anything they chose becomes canon. It's kind of moot to argue with a game creator about his design choices. All I am saying is that the referrence to Devil Dogs your making is not in your face at all. Nobody refers to marines by that anymore.

 Boss Salvage wrote:

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I agree. The werewolves are the worst part of Ariadna. I was really hoping The U.S. Faction would downplay them. Guess not.

Fun Fact: the wolf-things are the part of Ariadna most likely to get me to play the faction That and the dude with the bow

- Salvage

Same here (at least with the werewolves). I'm not a fan of the redneck ranger guy but it won't turn me off from the faction though either.

The simple fact that they could have used ANY of the other silhouettes means that yes, it is hamfisted in there.

Especially considering the fact as well that for years Corvus Belli has insisted that there is no Marine Corps in USAriadna.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The simple fact that they could have used ANY of the other silhouettes means that yes, it is hamfisted in there.

Especially considering the fact as well that for years Corvus Belli has insisted that there is no Marine Corps in USAriadna.

yet people demand them, and fun fact, most people I know or talk to who are new to INFINITY only consider Ariadna because of the wolves. Without the Antipodes they are just present day spec ops in a future setting=Blah.

I'm not sure why a bunch of people that don't play Ariadna dislike the werewolves. They're justified in the fluff and make sense. Get over it.

'Murika

Mr.Church13 wrote:
I agree. The werewolves are the worst part of Ariadna. I was really hoping The U.S. Faction would downplay them. Guess not.

I love everything you hate.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The simple fact that they could have used ANY of the other silhouettes means that yes, it is hamfisted in there.

Especially considering the fact as well that for years Corvus Belli has insisted that there is no Marine Corps in USAriadna.

I didn't know Marines used to be called Devil Dogs, so it's definitely clever to me.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The simple fact that they could have used ANY of the other silhouettes means that yes, it is hamfisted in there.

Especially considering the fact as well that for years Corvus Belli has insisted that there is no Marine Corps in USAriadna.

yet people demand them, and fun fact, most people I know or talk to who are new to INFINITY only consider Ariadna because of the wolves. Without the Antipodes they are just present day spec ops in a future setting=Blah.

I think you're refuting an argument I'm not making.

I have no issue with Antipodes in USAriadna.

My beef is with the fact that, again, we're getting the "Spanish take on America". Since day one, USAriadna has been the only one of the Ariadnan factions which have been excluded from the whole "X culture evolves over the centuries" which we see with Ariadna. They're Coke swilling rednecks, yet despite the fact that the science team(which was "primarily Caucasian and Asian-American") was outnumbered by the security detachment of Army Rangers("primarily consisting of Latino and African-Americans")--we somehow ended up with a culture with a bunch of muscle bound white rednecks and a character based on Matthew "I can't ever wear a shirt with sleeves" McConaughey, in a culture seemingly most concerned with establishing a Coca Cola factory in a hostile environment and ensuring that the recipe for doughnuts was kept safe.

And now we get a Marine Corps, from appearances, consisting of another "second class citizen" in the form of the Dogfaces(half-breeds) Synchronized with an Antipode.

aww the internet.

another vote for the wolves! I own a game store and they sell ariadna like all you can eat hot cakes!

but then i have some players (2-3) who play mostly historiical games but they love the rules for infintiy and want to play ariadna due to the feel of all the sneaky spec-ops guys that seem very present day. They like the idea of classic military with no super tech wooping on sci-fi....

We used to say "Hey Devil Dog" to each other and if we were feeling really great we'd throw in a tefulhunden. I'd really like to play a present day force in the Infinity setting without wolves.

 Wulf328 wrote:
We used to say "Hey Devil Dog" to each other and if we were feeling really great we'd throw in a tefulhunden. I'd really like to play a present day force in the Infinity setting without wolves.

To give you a good idea, there are very few units in Infinity which are "must-haves". The ones that are "must-haves" right now are profiles rather than units(to give an example: The Nomad Intruder Assault Commandos unit is a great unit to pull profiles from, with each profile being really good. The only one which some might say is a "must-have" is the Heavy Machine Gun or the MULTI-Sniper Rifle), so you can generally make a list and exclude units you dislike.

 Wulf328 wrote:
We used to say "Hey Devil Dog" to each other and if we were feeling really great we'd throw in a tefulhunden. I'd really like to play a present day force in the Infinity setting without wolves.

That's how I do it. No wolves in my ariadna anything. Actually I think I might start looking for some aliens styles exo suits to proxy over them.

I love the low tech vs high tech. Just wish they had went with ancient deisel powered low tech robots than wolf guys.

But I think we can all agree at least it's not zombies or dinosaurs.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Is... is that a werewolf riding an Antipode? Please tell me that's what I'm seeing. Even if it isn't, the idea of gaving an Antipode synched with a Dog Face is interesting. I'm very curious to see how that would work in the rules.

And for the record, I'm glad to see the canine representation in USAriadna since it does fit the fluff. But, I suppose I'm also somewhat biased since I like werewolves anyway.

It's not riding.
You can see the Dog-Face's two feet at ground-level. Plus, the Dog-Face is way too far back.

Requesting Dog-Faces in dress blues. Jk