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I don't think it's the pose I don't like once that's swapped round, but I can't put my finger on what it is. Maybe the face? It's a little underwhelming next to the Kazak dog warriors.

can't see since I am at work, but yeah it would be a simple conversion based on your description.

I am also debating doing something about the Maruders face, not a fan of the screaming. Thinking of removing the goggles and placing them over his eyes and doing a baklava(skimask) under it. This may wait till the starter box releases in case I mess him up, I can snag a replacement from Shae.

 BobbaFett wrote:
Why using screen caps when they are providing Hi res images today.

Spoiler:

1 is Vanilla, 2 is USARF. Actually, 3 in USARF.

 warboss wrote:


So are the devil dogs ava 2 or 1? Or is there a catch between the two that I'm not getting like the 1 is for vanilla ariadna and the 2 is for US?

3 Devil Dog Teams in the Sectorial, but only 1 for Vanilla. Also there can only be 2 Dog Warrior Units per vanilla army, So a Devil Dog Team would count as one and and the other one would be a 2nd Irregular Cameronians/Dog-Warrior

Thanks, and yes 3 not 2... typo on my part. Interesting. I like the antipode sculpt but I'm not a fan of the dog warrior though but it is nice to see that you can take more.

Why do bikes always have to be impetuous?

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 warboss wrote:


So are the devil dogs ava 2 or 1? Or is there a catch between the two that I'm not getting like the 1 is for vanilla ariadna and the 2 is for US?

3 Devil Dog Teams in the Sectorial, but only 1 for Vanilla. Also there can only be 2 Dog Warrior Units per vanilla army, So a Devil Dog Team would count as one and and the other one would be a 2nd Irregular Cameronians/Dog-Warrior/McMurrough/Mirage-5(?)

IIRC characters don't count for that kind of limitations. I think the Devil Dogs will, but McMurrough and Duroc don't, AFAIK.

How limited is the USAriadna box? It's not up on my preferred retailer yet and I don't get paid til Friday, I'll still be able to get it then though right?

 Erasoketa wrote:

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 warboss wrote:


So are the devil dogs ava 2 or 1? Or is there a catch between the two that I'm not getting like the 1 is for vanilla ariadna and the 2 is for US?

3 Devil Dog Teams in the Sectorial, but only 1 for Vanilla. Also there can only be 2 Dog Warrior Units per vanilla army, So a Devil Dog Team would count as one and and the other one would be a 2nd Irregular Cameronians/Dog-Warrior/McMurrough/Mirage-5(?)

IIRC characters don't count for that kind of limitations. I think the Devil Dogs will, but McMurrough and Duroc don't, AFAIK.

Quite right! I forgot that 'Aside from Charters' blip on Note 3. So just the Irregular Cameronians and the Dog Warriors then.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Why do bikes always have to be impetuous?

Just a random observation, but those bikes are -just- Impetuous, not Extremely Impetuous. They can choose whether they're impetuous or not. That's awesome!

 ImAGeek wrote:
How limited is the USAriadna box? It's not up on my preferred retailer yet and I don't get paid til Friday, I'll still be able to get it then though right?

From what I gather not limited in quantity, just limited sale July 6th-Gencon(PreOrder), not sure how long after. Then I assume much like Icestorm it well sell as long as a store still has any inventory left, once that is gone then it is done.

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
How limited is the USAriadna box? It's not up on my preferred retailer yet and I don't get paid til Friday, I'll still be able to get it then though right?

From what I gather not limited in quantity, just limited sale July 6th-Gencon(PreOrder), not sure how long after. Then I assume much like Icestorm it well sell as long as a store still has any inventory left, once that is gone then it is done.

Ah okay right. Cool, don't need to worry then

Demo game up

 ImAGeek wrote:

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
How limited is the USAriadna box? It's not up on my preferred retailer yet and I don't get paid til Friday, I'll still be able to get it then though right?

From what I gather not limited in quantity, just limited sale July 6th-Gencon(PreOrder), not sure how long after. Then I assume much like Icestorm it well sell as long as a store still has any inventory left, once that is gone then it is done.

Ah okay right. Cool, don't need to worry then

The only thing you don't get after the perorder date is the dismounted biker model.

Noir wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
How limited is the USAriadna box? It's not up on my preferred retailer yet and I don't get paid til Friday, I'll still be able to get it then though right?

From what I gather not limited in quantity, just limited sale July 6th-Gencon(PreOrder), not sure how long after. Then I assume much like Icestorm it well sell as long as a store still has any inventory left, once that is gone then it is done.

Ah okay right. Cool, don't need to worry then

The only thing you don't get after the perorder date is the dismounted biker model.

The exclusive Van Zant is also only available during the preorder period. You can only get him if you buy one of the bundles or on his own.


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 MRPYM wrote:
Demo game up

I know it's just a simple battle report for gaks n giggles, but I would have liked to see Carlos hang back on turn one and bring all the grunts into play. Didn't get much table control for all the units sacrificed early on so the PanO just sat still around the one building picking guys off one by one.

The next one has more potential with 300 pts and doing nomads vs Ariadna instead.

He played it right. USA seems to be designed to relay on forward deploying units, with impetuous units laying down the smoke and covering their advance. Grunts are there to mop up the leftovers or reinforce the weak flank.

The loss of camouflage unit was costly, although I did miss more suppressive fires. If the opponent is being passive, it's quite right to pick better position. It's mostly demo report... though Carlos's sudden decision to use command tokens wasn't cool at all. Two less orders on his side at the start make a difference when combat group is small. I hope they don't use a TAG next game.

It's going to be interesting to see what Allied units the Sectorial will get availability to. Might be able to sneak a TAG in there from another faction somewhere...

Noir wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
How limited is the USAriadna box? It's not up on my preferred retailer yet and I don't get paid til Friday, I'll still be able to get it then though right?

From what I gather not limited in quantity, just limited sale July 6th-Gencon(PreOrder), not sure how long after. Then I assume much like Icestorm it well sell as long as a store still has any inventory left, once that is gone then it is done.

Ah okay right. Cool, don't need to worry then

The only thing you don't get after the perorder date is the dismounted biker model.

It's like a month preorder window though isn't it?

 ImAGeek wrote:

Noir wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
How limited is the USAriadna box? It's not up on my preferred retailer yet and I don't get paid til Friday, I'll still be able to get it then though right?

From what I gather not limited in quantity, just limited sale July 6th-Gencon(PreOrder), not sure how long after. Then I assume much like Icestorm it well sell as long as a store still has any inventory left, once that is gone then it is done.

Ah okay right. Cool, don't need to worry then

The only thing you don't get after the perorder date is the dismounted biker model.

It's like a month preorder window though isn't it?

Yes the preorder window only goes until August 2nd.

That table is so tiny though, same issue I had with icestorm. It's great to learn the basics on but certain units/factions struggle on a mat that small, I think PanO shines on the smaller mat since all their units are higher armor/multi wound with better weapons.

 Red Corsair wrote:
That table is so tiny though, same issue I had with icestorm. It's great to learn the basics on but certain units/factions struggle on a mat that small, I think PanO shines on the smaller mat since all their units are higher armor/multi wound with better weapons.

Well yeah, it is 3x2 and Infinity is designed to play on 4x4. They are more for for demo games so everybody is on top of each other making rolls and see how everything interacts ands of course a start on the large amount of terrain the game needs. Plus it give a good idea on how much terrain a full table should have on it.

Agree with Noir here.

The PERFECT Demo Board is the Icestorm set.
Looks fine everywhere (because it does not require to be painted).
Any Warcor can make a decent demo game with it and if the new player likes the stuff, Icestorm is the best way to begin with this game.

Anyway, all these scenery packs, with that price... That is a move from CB to put an end to all the "This game is so terrain dependant" thing.
Apart from the HDF buildings from all the partners, the cardboard MotoTronica Packs are the solution for the "problem". Since this was released even tournaments are easier to organize.

Even the printed nature of the cardboard seems like it.. 'fits'... with Infinity's manga aesthetic. Somehow. Especially since it's so clean and high tech. OFC the ariadna bits didn't look quite like that.

I too found Icestorm's Mat to be a little too small. Isn't Infinity usually played on something like a 4'x4' table? I still wish they'd include a mousepad style mat instead of a flimsy paper one.

Yes, normally a 4'x4' table,. 2 Icestorm mats would make a 4'x3' table. You would need some 6" on either side or have a very narrow deployment zone. Mousepad style mats are very nice, but fairly expensive, like ~$55 to $60 for a 4x4.

FYI, Miniature Market has the Neoterra starter box on its daily deal.

 Red Corsair wrote:
That table is so tiny though, same issue I had with icestorm. It's great to learn the basics on but certain units/factions struggle on a mat that small, I think PanO shines on the smaller mat since all their units are higher armor/multi wound with better weapons.

The force that is more mobile and has the initiative will be better off. Having templates is also a great advantage on a table like this. PanO player was lucky with his Fusilier armour (value of 1) saves and who knows how it would otherwise turn out, if that Fusilier wouldn't lived to assist the Father Knight.

USA is looking scary, a team of Marauders with Foxtrots can nicely deny some vital objectives and still have enough pressure through motorcycles and AD to stall my advance.

 Knight wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
That table is so tiny though, same issue I had with icestorm. It's great to learn the basics on but certain units/factions struggle on a mat that small, I think PanO shines on the smaller mat since all their units are higher armor/multi wound with better weapons.

The force that is more mobile and has the initiative will be better off. Having templates is also a great advantage on a table like this. PanO player was lucky with his Fusilier armour (value of 1) saves and who knows how it would otherwise turn out, if that Fusilier wouldn't live to assist the Father Knight.

Yeah that move with the Fusilier was ballsy and rather misguided, but it worked... *Shrug* fortune favors the bold




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 Red Harvest wrote:


FYI, Miniature Market has the Neoterra starter box on its daily deal.

Thanks for the updates.
UGGGGH I almost pulled the trigger on that purchase. As cool as PanO is, the last thing I need is to start a 3rd Infinity faction.
While NCA doesn't have lots of shiny TAGs to play with, everything in that box could be used effectively in a Vanilla PanO list.
Those Operation: Icestorm PanO dudes are just sitting on my desk calling to me to buy them reinforcements.

Carlos promised exciting new stuff for Yu Jing. He better not disappoint me!

There's no way you could get a padded mat into a starter box - it just wouldn't fold up small enough.

On the other hand, Micro Art Studio make a few, including one that matches the Operation:Icestorm mat. I expect to see one for Hepaestus and the USAriadna set.

Mind you, the small mats really tech you to make use of cover and check your LOF.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
There's no way you could get a padded mat into a starter box - it just wouldn't fold up small enough.

On the other hand, Micro Art Studio make a few, including one that matches the Operation:Icestorm mat. I expect to see one for Hepaestus and the USAriadna set.

Mind you, the small mats really tech you to make use of cover and check your LOF.

Why not? Deadzone manages just fine, with plastic terrain and 3-times as many miniatures, and curiously enough the whole box ends up much cheaper too.