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That's a good point. Currently, the Codex does specify that Death Company are never scoring in their entry, and Codex > BRB so Shandara is right that still stands. But it doesn't say so about the DC Dread so under current Codex wording / 7th Ed rules a DC Dread is scoring – unless we take it that because the Dread is DC it comes under that same 'never scoring' rule.

I guess we'll have to wait for the new 'dex to find out what they do about it. What other units in the game specify never scoring?

DC being scoring makes no fluff sense whatsoever, though.

The 7th edition ally matrix and detachment rules destroy all fluff anyway.. Thats not a huge concern :p

Actually, 6th edition took care of that. 7th just took a dump right into the grave that was already dug.

I cannot imagine that DC/their transports/related dreads will get obsec in the new codex, and I also doubt they'll score. Maybe Astorath will grant them scoring? The price drops that are likely coming their way though will make DC good, scoring or not, I'd guess.

That is true about the fluff... win or lose I just can't imagine Death Company sitting around on some piece of 10,000 year old piece of broken technology smoking and playing cards :(

The DC not being OBSEC makes total sense, they never hold anything, they're running around dying and butchering bad guys.

Here's hoping with the price drop they don't, y'know, lose access to power weapons or anything.

 LutherMax wrote:
That is true about the fluff... win or lose I just can't imagine Death Company sitting around on some piece of 10,000 year old piece of broken technology smoking and playing cards :(

Pfft !!

They stand around the objective thiking they are all Sanguinis defending the fallen Emperor

 adamsouza wrote:

 LutherMax wrote:
That is true about the fluff... win or lose I just can't imagine Death Company sitting around on some piece of 10,000 year old piece of broken technology smoking and playing cards :(

Pfft !!

They stand around the objective thiking they are all Sanguinis defending the fallen Emperor

You just wrote the fluff that enables scoring DC right there

GW could learn a few things from me.

Except... you know... sanguinis died first.

 warboss wrote:
Except... you know... sanguinis died first.

The DC won't know that ... they suffer from Bat Guano Psychosis.

Sanguinis died before Emps even reached the room.

 Kirasu wrote:
The 7th edition ally matrix and detachment rules destroy all fluff anyway.. Thats not a huge concern :p

What's wrong with the 7th edition ally matrix? Imperial Forces teaming up with other Imperial forces while being desperate allies or "come the apocalypse" with everyone else is fluffy. Chaos demons teaming up with chaos marines while being desperate allies or come the apocalypse with nearly everyone else is fluffy. There isn't any more Necron Allies of Convenience with Imperial Forces or Daemons or Tau Battle Brothers with Eldar or Marines so I'm not sure what the problem is, here. At most maybe the DE and Eldar battle brothers set up is a bit of a stretch but even that's happened in the fluff (for example, in the Deathwatch RPG, there's a conclave of Eldar, Harlequins, and Dark Eldar working together. No Exodites though cause those guys stick to themselves)

 LutherMax wrote:
That is true about the fluff... win or lose I just can't imagine Death Company sitting around on some piece of 10,000 year old piece of broken technology smoking and playing cards :(

Yes they can because the leading Chaplain, the are praying together with him, Verse 12:14 "we will wait for the enemy and clobber him"

TiamatRoar wrote:
Sanguinis died before Emps even reached the room.

 Kirasu wrote:
The 7th edition ally matrix and detachment rules destroy all fluff anyway.. Thats not a huge concern :p

What's wrong with the 7th edition ally matrix? Imperial Forces teaming up with other Imperial forces while being desperate allies or "come the apocalypse" with everyone else is fluffy. Chaos demons teaming up with chaos marines while being desperate allies or come the apocalypse with nearly everyone else is fluffy. There isn't any more Necron Allies of Convenience with Imperial Forces or Daemons or Tau Battle Brothers with Eldar or Marines so I'm not sure what the problem is, here. At most maybe the DE and Eldar battle brothers set up is a bit of a stretch but even that's happened in the fluff (for example, in the Deathwatch RPG, there's a conclave of Eldar, Harlequins, and Dark Eldar working together. No Exodites though cause those guys stick to themselves)

My Tyranid with Imperial Knight allies army says otherwise.....FLUFF!

Over at BoLS they got BA down for a one week release now in between the chaos releases going on. Whey are also saying just a codex release. I was looking forward to that new mephiston model they were talking about what, a week ago?

Mephiston is like the Eldar Avatar, no one dares to attempt to resculpt it


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TiamatRoar wrote:
Sanguinis died before Emps even reached the room.

The fact that there are 10+ Sanguinis standing around, without wings, and they are taking orders from someone else, doesn't even phase them.

Squad Leader points to objective and says " Mighty Sanguinis we must protect this MCguffin from that vile Traitor Horus lest the Emperor himself will be lost"
Death Company forms a ring around objective and fights to the death to defend it.

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Over at BoLS they got BA down for a one week release now in between the chaos releases going on. Whey are also saying just a codex release. I was looking forward to that new mephiston model they were talking about what, a week ago?

What's the source of that at BoLS? I hope it's wrong I want new kits! Surely they won't break up the fantasy stuff by throwing BA in the middle. Surely!

D

Nah BA needs to be at least as big a release as Orks or Space Wolves, it's a popular army

Codex only plus maybe a single figure was always far, far more likely than any of those rumours promising new stuff out the wazoo. It looked like wish-listing at the time and so it will prove to be.

Im not expecting to get a ton of new kits or anything, just something more than the GK release. But it's looking more than likely to be that

I suspect that Death Company will remain unable to score but will make up for this with specific objective cards.

So Take and Hold 1-6 will be replaced with new Blood Angel specific objectives, some of which will be DC related.

Or as Blood Angels are more assaulty based you might find two sets of Take and Hold 1-6 are replaced by BA and DC specific objectives.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 LutherMax wrote:
That is true about the fluff... win or lose I just can't imagine Death Company sitting around on some piece of 10,000 year old piece of broken technology smoking and playing cards :(

Yes they can because the leading Chaplain, the are praying together with him, Verse 12:14 "we will wait for the enemy and clobber him"

I'd prefer to think of it like this. 8-foot tall, psychotic superhumans who genuniely believe they are facing the most powerful enemy man has ever seen in battle just slaughtered a bunch of your comrades with chainblades and high-explosive bolts, and a fair few fists and boots I imagine, wll while chanting furious litanies and guttural roars. They may move on, but for now they wait, standing over the charred corpses.

Do you really want to go and take that ground?

It does make sense that they're not scoring, so I can see that and obviously no obj sec for anything DC. It would be nice however if they were a denial unit of some kind, who wants to hold an objective when there's a bunch of bat guano crazy space vampires running around punching things to death?

D

These rumour guys are just fethers, dont listen to them im sick of their gak just wait until they're released

these parasites are just saying anything they can for attention

I am however looking foward to these guys im pretty keen on painting my guys up as angels

It would be nice to see that BA terminator box materialize. They are the only 'special' chapter that don't have their own terminator box. It wouldn't be too hard for GW to tool up some termies that look just as good as the space hulk ones!

Well, Fenrisian Wolves used to be unable to Score, but now they can.

 godswildcard wrote:
It would be nice to see that BA terminator box materialize. They are the only 'special' chapter that don't have their own terminator box. It wouldn't be too hard for GW to tool up some termies that look just as good as the space hulk ones!

That's because they have special assault marines (DC) and special honour guard jump marines (SG) and special transports and special predators and special apothecaries.... It would be a bit boring if all the chapters followed the same pattern of special units with specific box sets.

The other specials (DA and SW) also have a ton of special kits, including Terminators for each one.

Blood Angels already possessing special units or kits is not an obstacle to them getting more. That doesn't mean we'll be getting our own terminators, just that pre-existing specialist kits do not preclude us getting another.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
The other specials (DA and SW) also have a ton of special kits, including Terminators for each one.

Blood Angels already possessing special units or kits is not an obstacle to them getting more. That doesn't mean we'll be getting our own terminators, just that pre-existing specialist kits do not preclude us getting another.

I think you're missing the fact that Wolf Guard Terminators and Deathwing are not standard terminators. BA use standard terminators and thus do not need a boxset. It has nothing do with them being "special" marines.