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I'm calling bull on the Smaug rumor...

Maybe that Smaug kit is the WETA one that was linked here somewhere in N&R a few weeks back. Wasn't that one around $500 as well?

If it is true then I can see them moving assault marines into the FA slot and then giving us a detachment much like the DE with 6 FA slots or in the supplement there is a formation which allows you to take more assault marines. I'd rather see a new assault box though

Whilst grey hunters are definitely different to tac marines, we don't know whether someones gone and done something mental at GW and made it so blood angel tac marines are very different to standard tac marines now.

Just gotta wait and see. Could get power weapons in tac squads yet for example.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Whilst grey hunters are definitely different to tac marines, we don't know whether someones gone and done something mental at GW and made it so blood angel tac marines are very different to standard tac marines now.

Just gotta wait and see. Could get power weapons in tac squads yet for example.

JP-less assault marines....aka BP/CCW tacticals for blood angels?

A Blood Angels tactical squad is almost the last possible thing anyone could want for a new release, really hoping this one is false.

Or maybe, just maybe, we'll see a tactical marine wilth 2x specials, bolter, BP and CCW?

Space Wolves will eat their beer mugs in frustration, I bet.

Won't happen, but a man can dream.

Could be something as simple as less static poses as well, more running legs along with the rumoured decorative parts, even if the guys have bolters.

Personally, I'm just going to wait a week and see what pics turn up of the models or any rules in the new codex rather than calling anything BS.

 Reality-Torrent wrote:
So I live in Sweden, how fast do you figure they will sell out? I'm pretty sure the Storm Claw or what ever it was named hanged around for several weeks.

Hah, my FLGS still has half a dozen Stormclaw boxes left (and 8 to 10 Space Hulks). GW games are popular, but for whatever reason players here are pretty cynical about 'limited release' thing.

I would be okay if it was a box with ten marines with jump packs.

Backfire wrote:

 Reality-Torrent wrote:
So I live in Sweden, how fast do you figure they will sell out? I'm pretty sure the Storm Claw or what ever it was named hanged around for several weeks.

Hah, my FLGS still has half a dozen Stormclaw boxes left (and 8 to 10 Space Hulks). GW games are popular, but for whatever reason players here are pretty cynical about 'limited release' thing.

My FLGS got ONE copy of Stormclaw.
My FLGS told me last week they won't be able to get Deathstorm.
I'm finding a new FLGS

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm calling bull on the Smaug rumor...

The beasts of war guys have mentioned a smaug about 6 months ago, they tend to have some inside info so it may be possible.

Of course, how big it ends up being and the cost it will come in at are a different matter entirely.

I just got my pre-order conformation from Neal at The War Store on Shield of Baal. The invoice states "EXTREMELY LIMITED RELEASE", so get your F5 buttons ready!

Wouldn't it be awesome if the Blood Angel's Tactical Squad had the same nipple armor the Sanguinary Guard had ?

NoggintheNog wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm calling bull on the Smaug rumor...

The beasts of war guys have mentioned a smaug about 6 months ago, they tend to have some inside info so it may be possible.

Of course, how big it ends up being and the cost it will come in at are a different matter entirely.

GW basically came out and said they wouldn't do Smaug because of the fact that the scale required would make it huge.

 Kanluwen wrote:

NoggintheNog wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm calling bull on the Smaug rumor...

The beasts of war guys have mentioned a smaug about 6 months ago, they tend to have some inside info so it may be possible.

Of course, how big it ends up being and the cost it will come in at are a different matter entirely.

GW basically came out and said they wouldn't do Smaug because of the fact that the scale required would make it huge.

I guess this is the point we hope that FW does it

The tac squad includes 10 extra bases to model the weapons theve left behind while going ragey, and assaulting the enemy with bare hands

It could quite possibly be forge world that has done it but under a GW banner for licensing reasons I presume if anything.

If it is expensive as it is rumoured, it would make sense that it is done that way like FW do with the titans, they presumably only do short production runs on an as needed basis. They surely won't actually sell the model in shop so it will be GW direct or something.

For those set to pummel F5 in the near future, it is currently 1815 GMT, so if you look at the time code on this post in your local area, that should allow you to work out when to do so in earnest.

Probably around 45mins to an hour...

Could the tac squad be basically the same sprues as the latest tac squad box but with certain bits removed and new bits added?

I really don't know much about how easy to edit a sprue would be (I mean the designs are all CAD now right?), seems very strange that we'd get a specific tac marine sprue, but HFs in our TAC squads would be pretty cool.

D

 JudgeShamgar wrote:
I just got my pre-order conformation from Neal at The War Store on Shield of Baal. The invoice states "EXTREMELY LIMITED RELEASE", so get your F5 buttons ready!

How did you get that? I emailed him a few days ago and he never responded.

Thanks Judge, headed over to The War Store now! He gave me a great deal on the Sector Imperialis!

 theharrower wrote:

 JudgeShamgar wrote:
I just got my pre-order conformation from Neal at The War Store on Shield of Baal. The invoice states "EXTREMELY LIMITED RELEASE", so get your F5 buttons ready!

How did you get that? I emailed him a few days ago and he never responded.

I sent in my order this morning. I figured that even if GW hadn't released it yet, their distributors would at least know about it.

I guess I just timed it right.

They didn't have any White Dwarf #44 left though.

 evildrcheese wrote:
Could the tac squad be basically the same sprues as the latest tac squad box but with certain bits removed and new bits added?

I really don't know much about how easy to edit a sprue would be (I mean the designs are all CAD now right?), seems very strange that we'd get a specific tac marine sprue, but HFs in our TAC squads would be pretty cool.

D

The cost of plastic kits is in the very substantial metal moulds that must be milled to within extremely small tolerances. Historically these were valued in the tens of thousands, but technology has progressed as wells as GW owning their own equipment, reducing the costs.

This is why we now have the mini sprues with characters on, but the set up costs for a new mould are still the biggest consideration, and would be essentially the same if you redesigned a kit from scratch or just altered some bits or some iconography. The time taken to redesign a kit would obviously be a lot longer, but as nearly all GW creatives (possibly all?) are salaried, cost of labour is not something GW has to consider in the same way as a company using outside, freelance, talent like Mierce, Kingdom Death and some of the other smaller manufacturers do.

Steel Molds can be modular, I think, so in theory you could switch out parts of the molds for different bits... But I could be very wrong in this - and I don't know if GW does it.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Yeah, I am calling BS on a Blood Angels Tactical box. Their tactical squads are essentially the same as C:SM. This isn't like Space Wolves. It would be different if it was an Assault Squad box since they do use a lot of different, exclusive weapons.

Isn't that pretty much what the Death Company box already is?

F5... F5... F5... F5...

 Kanluwen wrote:
GW basically came out and said they wouldn't do Smaug because of the fact that the scale required would make it huge.

Not to mention pointless, as no one plays The Hobbit.

 Kanluwen wrote:

GW basically came out and said they wouldn't do Smaug because of the fact that the scale required would make it huge.

Link?

I think you confuse "GW basically came out and said.." with "Random rumour-monger came out and claimed that GW said..."

It's up for pre-order!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's up for pre-order!

Ordered

Ordered.

I also notice that the codex and Sanguinary Priest is no-longer available.