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Hmm, fascinating.

Since I rely on slaves for money I have a small area for exceptional loot, a small area for food and the rest is simply for horses.


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If you use archery I just discovered what that box on the field is... your inventory. So you can leave arrows/bolts etc and even spare shields and then load up on them as you need it in battle.

 Swastakowey wrote:
Since I rely on slaves for money I have a small area for exceptional loot, a small area for food and the rest is simply for horses.


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If you use archery I just discovered what that box on the field is... your inventory. So you can leave arrows/bolts etc and even spare shields and then load up on them as you need it in battle.

Yeah, the inventory is really helpful... provided you can remember where it is when you need it.

Nothing like riding around the battlefield trying to remember where you started the battle so you can replace your shield or restock on arrows.

Why do horses give a speed boost? Well because they're pack mules of course. I think that after a set number they stop giving the boost due to you not having enough troops to handle them properly, but that might just be something I invented. In Brytenwalda some horses directly give you bonuses rolls, not quite in the behind the scenes manner that the base game handles it.

A cool thing about the floris mod which has helped me a few times, is when you fall in battle it will continue until you want to leave.

If you cant fight the next battle due to being wounded, you can fight the battle as one of your companions (representing their command etc). You can actually do this at any time too.

I have to start using the inventory so when my second shield breaks I can go back for another.

Well, I took the castle, but I guess all that rep stuff was important after all! I'm being attacked by dudes from East Anglia, which means they had to cross the entire Irish Sea just to feth with me, which is impressive. I fought some really epic battles to break a seige and then to defend against an army of 286 with my garrison of 69, just managing to hold on so far. Includes driving off several 50 strong armies. So now me and my companions are all bloodied and exhausted, and I need to head north to friendlier cities to trade prisoners and buy more mercs, but I know when I do that my settlement will be besieged again! Oh well. The good news is my village has converted to paganism, so if I can just survive this bit, fight off those who attack me and maybe take another fort or something, I can double my problems! Life was easier as a raider.

The good news is that sieges take a while so even if your place gets besieged you have a little bit of time to haul back over there. Especially if you have a decent garrison.

It seems to me that a garrison of 60-80 is just as effective as a garrison of 300. Have a dozen or so elite troops to hold the breech and ton of archers to shoot them as they approach.

Note: It might be a good idea if we all head our posts with the name of the Mod we're playing, to avoid confusion.



Brytenwalda.
Well, my faction Bernaccia (the Northumbria region) has conquered 2 Burh's and a town, destroying the faction of Gotoudin in the south east of Scotland. I'd had one of Gotoudin's 3 Lords as a prisoner for going on a month now (the lazy bugger just doesn't want to escape) and with his faction destroyed I decided I might as well execute him as no one was going to pay the ransom. The only feedback I noitced was that I took a 25 point reputation hit down to 60. Not a big deal, as I'd had about 85 rep.

4 days later I attended a Feast, and to my horror found that 4/5 of my faction's Lords now despised me, even ones who I'd previously had extremely good relations with (30+). So thats 4 days of progress I'm going to delete by reloading an earlier save.

Moral of the story:

DON'T EXECUTE LORDS.


On the bright side, I've just gotten married, though I still have no town or Burh to call home just a single measly village. It is deep within our territory far from our borders though, so at least its rarely raided and easily defensible.

Also, 2 TINY factions in Wales and another small faction in Cumbria have bizarrely declared war on us out of the blue, which is GREAT NEWS because I now have a a formidable army of 250 men that gobbles up 5000g every week, my coffers were down to 25,000 and I was worried that without an ongoing war I'd have no villages to raid and caravans to rob as legitimate targets of war. I'm going to try my luck at laying siege to a town and a burh in Cumbria and see if my Lord (Brytenwalda Oswald) will name me as the owner if I'm the one to capture it.


Oh, and BEST OF ALL... After winning my 5th tournament or so in Bebbanburh, I was awarded with a prize: a "Wolf Skin Lorica" armour!!! This thing has Body Armour 65 and Leg Armour 10! My armour stats are now:

Head: ~36
Body: 86
Leg: 10

I have finally become the walking armoured tank that I loved playing in the Native game.

My skill with the "Dane Axe" (2 hand battle axe) is such that I can singehandedly defeat a cavalry charge. My axe has a reach of 100 and a dmg of 50, so one well timed sweep at an oncoming horse will kill it outright.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Axe#History

In the Bayeux tapestry, a visual record of the ascent of William the Conqueror to the throne of England, the axe is almost exclusively wielded by well armoured huscarls. These huscarls formed the core bodyguard of King Harold at the Battle of Hastings. The Bayeux Tapestry also depicts a huscarl cleaving a Norman knight's horse's head with one blow

This is my character in a nutshell.

Brytenwalda:
All that advice about reputation and keeping people friendly?
Yeah, turns out it's not a great idea to get to reputation -45, snub anyone who offers you the chance to be a vassal, and then grab a kingdom of your own.

Seems that provokes even neutral factions to line up to attack you. Currently fighting three kingdoms simultaneously, and I think I'm going to have to abandon my kingdom and flee into the wilderness soon, because I can't hold out much longer. All my elite troops are getting slowly ground down and the new recruits just aren't up to the challenge they are facing!

 Da Boss wrote:
Brytenwalda:
All that advice about reputation and keeping people friendly?
Yeah, turns out it's not a great idea to get to reputation -45, snub anyone who offers you the chance to be a vassal, and then grab a kingdom of your own.

Seems that provokes even neutral factions to line up to attack you. Currently fighting three kingdoms simultaneously, and I think I'm going to have to abandon my kingdom and flee into the wilderness soon, because I can't hold out much longer. All my elite troops are getting slowly ground down and the new recruits just aren't up to the challenge they are facing!

If it's anything like Prophecy of Pendor, you have to build up a stat called "Right to Rule" before you even consider starting your own kingdom. Whether or not that stat is Pendor-specific or a part of M&B to begin with, I don't know.

Maybe you could go live in the mountains as a wanted outlaw hermit. That would be an interesting role play experience.


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 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Brytenwalda:
All that advice about reputation and keeping people friendly?
Yeah, turns out it's not a great idea to get to reputation -45, snub anyone who offers you the chance to be a vassal, and then grab a kingdom of your own.

Seems that provokes even neutral factions to line up to attack you. Currently fighting three kingdoms simultaneously, and I think I'm going to have to abandon my kingdom and flee into the wilderness soon, because I can't hold out much longer. All my elite troops are getting slowly ground down and the new recruits just aren't up to the challenge they are facing!

If it's anything like Prophecy of Pendor, you have to build up a stat called "Right to Rule" before you even consider starting your own kingdom. Whether or not that stat is Pendor-specific or a part of M&B to begin with, I don't know.

Yeah, upgrading your Persuasian skill and Charisma, and giving "speeches" in Town's can give you points towards Right to Rule IIRC. I think I'm at 4 RTR. My Persuasion is lvl 3.

Brytenwalda

People... People offering for you to be a vassal? Ah, yeah try playing as a female character. Damn, how I'd love for someone to offer me vassalage. Ok, only to tell them to go screw themselves of course (so far I'm eyeing up the faction which controls the northern half of Scotland as a stepping stone to taking over, but want to play off more people first). I kind of have a thing for playing the least likely ruler. IIRC my current character is female (in native that means you need double the amount of renown as males to do anything) who also had a father who was a vagabond (his village turned Christian on him so he fled to the hulls), who lived herself as a poacher, and is a pagan (ie everyone bar two kingdoms hate you). It makes the slog longer, but feels good to just say "well screw you guys" to everyone for snubbing you as you begin to take over. Yeah, how'd you like your new Pagan queen bitches? Ah right, I took over, refused your swords of vassalage and allowed you all to join a single faction then executed every one of your asses one by one so I was the only noble left in the whole isles (...she also evidently has a crazy streak to her).

Right to rule is from the base game, as youknow, its kind of what gets you on your way to taking over. Its mostly about showing that you're a noble (even if of low blood), so things like marrying and lords joining you. Of course if you don't want to go down that route you can get it by sending out companions to speak about you (though there's only so many companions, so eventually you'll have to find other means). Yes, Brytenwalda also allows you to make speeches to townspeople and probably other means too. Personally I tend to get away by just having a high reputation with factions and their lords so that they don't want to go to war with me on a personal level. I might not have their respect as a monarch, but they don't want to declare war on a friend. That doesn't prevent all wars naturally, but it does if you don't want to marry some random or go down the road of micro managing a gak ton of lords (eugh, I really hate having to deal with those guys. Hey if you don't like it in my faction because I don't want you asshats having all the land which I bloody well just took from you then go jump in someone else's bed. Be mindful though that sooner or later I'll be knocking on their door too, and whilst I may be rather trigger happy about performing a bit of medieval surgery on lord's necks at the best of times, traitors have that kind of handling as a cert).

Hmph, now I'm sort of wishing that you could mount Lord's heads on spikes outside your keep, or send them to their monarchs as warnings.

Right to Rule is part of vanilla Warband, and is required in fairly large amounts before any existing faction will even entertain the possibility that your kingdom could amount to anything. It's pretty much impossible to get anything about your kingdom recognised without it, and trying to start a kingdom without it just makes you a huge target.

Whats a large amount?

I have only about 20 right now, and had even less when I founded my kingdom. Nobody became even remotely aggressive till I was well established with 3 towns and about 6 castles.

Brytenwalda.

Ok, I reloaded and replayed the lost 4 days of progress. Sadly this time around instead of winning the super powerful Wolf Lorica Armour as a reward for the tournament at my wedding feast, I won a Greek armoured horse (high armour, high charge, but very low speed and maneuver.) I already have a very good and fast horse so I gave it to one of my men.

Also this time around it was an Irish faction that declared war on us for some bizarre reason, not Wales like last time.

And as I'm writing thus just now Lindisware (east Anglia region I think) just declared war on us which is excellent for me as they have just one town and two burhs I think, and they're directly on our southern border so hopefully I'll be able to take the town and I'll be granted ownership.

Oh, and I'm on a quest to find the legendary sword Hrunting (Beowulf s sword) . I need to find need king Arthur's horn and the lyre of taliesion.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Brytenwalda:
All that advice about reputation and keeping people friendly?
Yeah, turns out it's not a great idea to get to reputation -45, snub anyone who offers you the chance to be a vassal, and then grab a kingdom of your own.

Seems that provokes even neutral factions to line up to attack you. Currently fighting three kingdoms simultaneously, and I think I'm going to have to abandon my kingdom and flee into the wilderness soon, because I can't hold out much longer. All my elite troops are getting slowly ground down and the new recruits just aren't up to the challenge they are facing!

If it's anything like Prophecy of Pendor, you have to build up a stat called "Right to Rule" before you even consider starting your own kingdom. Whether or not that stat is Pendor-specific or a part of M&B to begin with, I don't know.

Right to Rule is a core part of Warband. If you enable cheat mode, you can find it under the character report section and modify it.


Also, I'm currently playing the Perisno mod. Lord of the Hakkon Empire with two towns to my name(The Emperor hates me.) I have an entirely mounted party of top rank troops for the faction nobles. each castle is garrisoned with 186 top rank troops, and 360-odd mixed rank troops respectively. Currently trying to sue for peace with the faction the empire is warring with on the borders so my villages stop getting raided. All in all I'd recommend it. It's got it's flaws, I.E. The troop system. (Cavalry are still too good on the charge with lances.), but it adds a degree of low fantasy to the game. Which I like.

Brytenwalda

After conquering the Gotoudin in the south of Scotland, Lindisware then declared war on us. They had just 3 Warlords, a town, a burh and 5 villages vs our 10+ Lords of Bernaccia, so the result of the war was quite predictable. Despite a surprise attack on Caer Daun that took the burh, we were able to counter attack after I retook it when I rode around the country rallying our Lords and telling them to lay siege to their lands (they were trying to sneak off to a feast in Bebbanburh). Despite a great deal of personal heroics on my part (I personally killed ~ 150 enemies in a series of sieges) and a lot of politicking persuading at least half our Lords to back my claims to fiefs, my King Brytenwalda Oswald kept the town for himself and two villages, and shared the rest of the land among his cronies. The greedy b******. He now owns two Towns and 5 villages. I just have two measly villages.

Our empire now stretches all the way down the east coast from the Firth of Forth in Scotland (Gotoudin) to Lincolnshire (Lindisware) and we have factions declaring war on us left right and centre, even tiny factions with just one or two Towns/Burhs.

For a while we were at peace, so I decided to resume my quest for Hrunting, the legendary sword of Beowulf. After an epic (boring) quest that took me from Scotland to Wales to Ireland to Wales again and then back to Scotland, I've finally obtained it! Its definitely the best sword I've found so far.

dmg: 42 swing / 25 thrust
speed: 85
reach: 97

I've also purchased a ship, and I've disbanded most of my army (250 > 60) so that I can go raiding in Ireland and hopefully make my fortune once again, as I spent a lot of money developing my two villages and purchasing Businesses (two breweries and a tannery). Two small factions declared war on Bernaccia out of the blue ("Declared war to curb Bernaccia's growing power" so there will be easy pickings and villages to raid as legitimate targets of war.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Brytenwalda

After conquering the Gotoudin in the south of Scotland, Lindisware then declared war on us. They had just 3 Warlords, a town, a burh and 5 villages vs our 10+ Lords of Bernaccia, so the result of the war was quite predictable. Despite a surprise attack on Caer Daun that took the burh, we were able to counter attack after I retook it when I rode around the country rallying our Lords and telling them to lay siege to their lands (they were trying to sneak off to a feast in Bebbanburh). Despite a great deal of personal heroics on my part (I personally killed ~ 150 enemies in a series of sieges) and a lot of politicking persuading at least half our Lords to back my claims to fiefs, my King Brytenwalda Oswald kept the town for himself and two villages, and shared the rest of the land among his cronies. The greedy b******. He now owns two Towns and 5 villages. I just have two measly villages.

Our empire now stretches all the way down the east coast from the Firth of Forth in Scotland (Gotoudin) to Lincolnshire (Lindisware) and we have factions declaring war on us left right and centre, even tiny factions with just one or two Towns/Burhs.

For a while we were at peace, so I decided to resume my quest for Hrunting, the legendary sword of Beowulf. After an epic (boring) quest that took me from Scotland to Wales to Ireland to Wales again and then back to Scotland, I've finally obtained it! Its definitely the best sword I've found so far.

dmg: 42 swing / 25 thrust
speed: 85
reach: 97

I've also purchased a ship, and I've disbanded most of my army (250 > 60) so that I can go raiding in Ireland and hopefully make my fortune once again, as I spent a lot of money developing my two villages and purchasing Businesses (two breweries and a tannery). Two small factions declared war on Bernaccia out of the blue ("Declared war to curb Bernaccia's growing power" so there will be easy pickings and villages to raid as legitimate targets of war.

Man, you've got me wanting to play Brytenwalda now.

Yeah, me too!

Is it on the Steam workshop?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, me too!

Is it on the Steam workshop?

Steam Workshop isn't that great.

I use warband nexus.


Anyway. Downloaded Brytenwalda, and installed it. Created a Christian Noble born Blacksmith and his personal Banner bearer. Will report on his progress as I make it.

Hmmm, are Steam versions compatible with the Nexus?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Hmmm, are Steam versions compatible with the Nexus?

Perfectly, yes. Some mods on there might not have .exes and so would need manually installing, but that usually just consists of unzipping the mod into Warband's Module folder.

You will have to bear that most mods were not created for the current version of Warband (1.60 or 1.61, can't remember) though, and it's unlikely that many will be updated to it, especially Brytenwalda considering that the team behind it is working on Viking Invasion now.

Brytenwalda.

My king is turning out to be a right greedy b******. Despite spending more time feasting than prosecuting wars and taking territory to expand our kingdom, he's gifted himself 2 towns and 7, yes, SEVEN villages.

Meanwhile I've been travelling the entire length of Britain, raiding villages, fighting Lord's, laying sieges and overall taking the fight the enemy. I even travelled to Ireland to raid the territory of two Irish clans that declared war on us (Bernaccia) out of the blue (I made 25,000 gold from cattle and selling captive outlaws).

Does anyone know if, in Warband, its possible for you to organize feasts? It appears that only NPCs can organize them from what I can tell.

When you have your own kingdom you can have a feast.

Its expensive though.

Kingdom I has. No feast options that I can see.

Talk to your wife. She will tell you what to do to arrange the feast. Or the guy you put as administrator or whatever you call it.

I always raid a few enemy villages first, before holding a feast with the spoils of war.

I dont raid villages. I used to but after growing my villages to be prosperous I cant force the villages of negligent lords further into poverty.

 Swastakowey wrote:
Talk to your wife.

Gotta get me one of those I guess

Or the guy you put as administrator or whatever you call it.

Never saw the option come up anywhere.