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Haha, if I can find something that will serve as a more suitable base for them or decide to just greenstuff them entirely then you are more than welcome to them if you don't mind paying the few bucks for shipping.

Thanks for the suggestion of the Valkir heads, I'm more after a the Halo video game's feel which I believe would match the Enforcer's armour's aesthetic quite nicely.

 AkhilleusK42 wrote:
Haha, if I can find something that will serve as a more suitable base for them or decide to just greenstuff them entirely then you are more than welcome to them if you don't mind paying the few bucks for shipping.

Thanks for the suggestion of the Valkir heads, I'm more after a the Halo video game's feel which I believe would match the Enforcer's armour's aesthetic quite nicely.

If you want helmet heads that look like Spartans from Halo I would suggest you look at Pig Iron Productions system trooper head sprues.

There is a picture on Google showing one with a SM head. Looked pretty good, didn't seem badly sized.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
There is a picture on Google showing one with a SM head. Looked pretty good, didn't seem badly sized.

I'll have to try that since I have a butt ton of sm heads.

http://xulutec.blogspot.com/2013/12/sci-fi-trooper.html?m=1

 timetowaste85 wrote:
http://xulutec.blogspot.com/2013/12/sci-fi-trooper.html?m=1

Just an enforcer with space marine head, I am sure there are plenty of those floating around now.

Ehh that kind of works. Makes him look kind of more like a storm trooper maybe.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
http://xulutec.blogspot.com/2013/12/sci-fi-trooper.html?m=1[/quote




It does look good!

Thanks for all the suggestions! I've looked at pig iron and they're not quite what I'm after, I have the perfect heads but they're heroic scaled on an otherwise normal scaled Enforcer mini. The heads are of a size with a SM head, which my dry construction made look kinda bobble-headed. Do you guys think that the SM head looks reasonably scaled on the Enforcer?

That marine head actually works size-wise. Much better in size at least than the pinheads they come with. Thereally good thing there is that the sizing shown there opens up all of the many alt-marine heads as realistic options.

 Azazelx wrote:
That marine head actually works size-wise. Much better in size at least than the pinheads they come with. Thereally good thing there is that the sizing shown there opens up all of the many alt-marine heads as realistic options.

While I agree that the SM helmet makes the model look like a guy wearing a helmet, the size disparity makes the rest of the armor looks more like a catsuit in comparison.

Such as this bad boy! My Enforcers just got a lot cooler, though I think I might have to beef the shoulder pads up mildly with some greenstuff to make him look more proportionate

 JoshInJapan wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
That marine head actually works size-wise. Much better in size at least than the pinheads they come with. Thereally good thing there is that the sizing shown there opens up all of the many alt-marine heads as realistic options.

While I agree that the SM helmet makes the model look like a guy wearing a helmet, the size disparity makes the rest of the armor looks more like a catsuit in comparison.

I think the knees are the biggest offender there. The rest of it isn't so bad. Probably a little bit tall in proportion to it's width, as opposed to squat like a Space Marine. Remember, helmets are often BIG in proportion to the body - especially if they have stuff inside them.


Aren't the plastic ones supposed to be a bit more proportionate?

Can't.... stop... watching.... stormtroopers.

As for the HP Enforcers, I think (or more to the point, hope) they are, all of the photos in the rulebooks of the Enforcer Defenders look really good

I've always assumed that Enforcers underwent full cybernetic replacement, not unlike Robocop, so I've never had a problem with the size of the knees or helmets. You may be right, though, about SM heads looking better on a beefed-up enforcer body.

 JoshInJapan wrote:
I've always assumed that Enforcers underwent full cybernetic replacement, not unlike Robocop, so I've never had a problem with the size of the knees or helmets. You may be right, though, about SM heads looking better on a beefed-up enforcer body.

I am also fond of that interpretation. Something about the helmet suggests a reinforced brain in a nutrient bath. But then I also favor this approach to explaining why the heavily armored storm rage vets are child sized next to padded fabric-wearing steel warriors. Also, the restic Corp Rangers are all kinds of messed up in proportions.

Mantic has terrible consistency of scale.

I just can't tell on the new hard plastic helmets... they look like they may be just a tad larger but it's by a small margin if at all. The visor helmets look bigger by a bit, though you don't get enough to use them exclusively.

Heads don't bother me right now, that may change in the future.

What really bothers me is the size difference between the corporation marines and the plague mutant zombies. Its one thing to say the zombies mutated a lot and got bulgy muscles and growths and what not... but where did they find the time to shop for better fitting double sized helmets?

Honestly, the parts may work for zombifying enforcers or something, but I probably won't be mixing them with any corp marines to make more z-corp, the old ghouls/zombies are a better fit. Who knows, maybe the hard plastic warpath marines will be more like these (though that would mean they changed to heroic scale..).

@Bob, I don't have a good eye for scale, what's wrong with the corporation marines (other than large guns).?

The marines have the skinny legs and wieird shoulders that are realistic for some people but are awkward across a whole squad, let alone the whole army. The Rangers are the same minis with closed helmets that can in no way hold a human head in the same scale. The helmets are truncated above the visor, making them look squashed in the cranium.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 JoshInJapan wrote:
I've always assumed that Enforcers underwent full cybernetic replacement, not unlike Robocop, so I've never had a problem with the size of the knees or helmets. You may be right, though, about SM heads looking better on a beefed-up enforcer body.

I am also fond of that interpretation. Something about the helmet suggests a reinforced brain in a nutrient bath. But then I also favor this approach to explaining why the heavily armored storm rage vets are child sized next to padded fabric-wearing steel warriors. Also, the restic Corp Rangers are all kinds of messed up in proportions.

Mantic has terrible consistency of scale.

The thing about this is that while it's all very sci-fi, it doesn't make much sense. They may as well be robots, because, after all - who the feth would want to be a reduced to a brain in a jar in a killing suit? It's as ridiculous as GoA's Bromites who have bolted mining/killing equipment onto their bodies. (And their Terminator Captain has an exposed head option).

I mean, Space Marines are basically Janissaries - and they have personalities in the fiction, so there's a historical/real world realistic precedent for warrior-monks (slaves) who are kidnapped/indoctrinated as children brought up in a warrior-society. Not that this happens anywhere in the world today, of course. But the Robocop thing doesn't work for me on any kind of larger scale. It kinda works for SM dreads, because there are so relative few of them, but not for a whole army.

Ahh huh. I liked the skinny proportions compared to he-man guardsmen, but I guess I can see your issues. Even if the ranger helmets are disproportionate, they still look cooler to me , but thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Plus in the fluff I thought they had chips in their brains that gave them the ability to ignore injury but that they were still human (further evidenced by the visible face of the Peacekeeper Captain)

 GrimDork wrote:
Ahh huh. I liked the skinny proportions compared to he-man guardsmen, but I guess I can see your issues. Even if the ranger helmets are disproportionate, they still look cooler to me , but thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Which ones are the ranger helmets?

The Marine helmets look a fraction too large on the Enforcer bodies to me, but that's just imo

 Azazelx wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 JoshInJapan wrote:
I've always assumed that Enforcers underwent full cybernetic replacement, not unlike Robocop, so I've never had a problem with the size of the knees or helmets. You may be right, though, about SM heads looking better on a beefed-up enforcer body.

I am also fond of that interpretation. Something about the helmet suggests a reinforced brain in a nutrient bath. But then I also favor this approach to explaining why the heavily armored storm rage vets are child sized next to padded fabric-wearing steel warriors. Also, the restic Corp Rangers are all kinds of messed up in proportions.

Mantic has terrible consistency of scale.

The thing about this is that while it's all very sci-fi, it doesn't make much sense. They may as well be robots, because, after all - who the feth would want to be a reduced to a brain in a jar in a killing suit? It's as ridiculous as GoA's Bromites who have bolted mining/killing equipment onto their bodies. (And their Terminator Captain has an exposed head option).

I mean, Space Marines are basically Janissaries - and they have personalities in the fiction, so there's a historical/real world realistic precedent for warrior-monks (slaves) who are kidnapped/indoctrinated as children brought up in a warrior-society. Not that this happens anywhere in the world today, of course. But the Robocop thing doesn't work for me on any kind of larger scale. It kinda works for SM dreads, because there are so relative few of them, but not for a whole army.

Only a problem if you assume that's his permanent body. There is a lot of transhumanist or post humanist sci if out there now where people can transfer their minds to new bodies easily, or simply stay no physical you til they decide to download into a new body. So, yes, I picture the Enforcers as essentially robots with the hardware to run human 'software', which is downloaded into them prior to each mission. Between missions, they could be living like Bosses in the matrix or designer bodies or living fursuits or whatever. They look like they share a tech base with Sedition Wars, and that universe explicitly contains AIs, cloning, augmetics and relife abilities. Throw in some nanowank if you want. It works just fine, if not better than the official fluff, which also includes relifing, cloning, cybernetics and robots. I don't really see a problem.

I guess one's preferred explanation depends which 'wave' of science fiction he likes best.


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Damn I hate you, autocorrect.

If you're using the full version of dakka (IE, your mobile device isn't taking away the pictures/sigs), my avatar is a ranger, and the first head in my sig is a marine.

 GrimDork wrote:
Ahh huh. I liked the skinny proportions compared to he-man guardsmen, but I guess I can see your issues. Even if the ranger helmets are disproportionate, they still look cooler to me , but thanks for sharing your thoughts.

The Ranger helmets are way, way, way cooler than the corp marine helmets, even if they do look literally brain-damaged. That's why I bought some.

But if you want to trade for them or buy them cheap, they're yours. Restic.


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 AkhilleusK42 wrote:
Plus in the fluff I thought they had chips in their brains that gave them the ability to ignore injury but that they were still human (further evidenced by the visible face of the Peacekeeper Captain)

I choose to ignore the face on the captain because I really want to. The alternative is that they are all pinheads. Oh, Mantic.


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 GrimDork wrote:
If you're using the full version of dakka (IE, your mobile device isn't taking away the pictures/sigs), my avatar is a ranger, and the first head in my sig is a marine.

Without the context of a full body pic, the helmet just looks really cool.

Corp marines (especially rangers) are probably my favorite light-medium infantry *ever*, though there are some pretty cool things out there. I just wish I had discovered them before I had started dabbling in IG, I probably would have had more luck sticking it out. Ahh well.

Az here's the closest thing to a side-by-side I could find in my gallery...

"I choose to ignore the face on the captain because I really want to. The alternative is that they are all pinheads. Oh, Mantic."

I admire your tenacity! There are some tv shows where I really wish I could omit certain sections. However, you could also use the Peacekeeper's helmet in your argument, seeing how it is actually substantially larger whilst also barely fitting his head. In that light, the regular Enforcers really couldn't fit their heads

 AkhilleusK42 wrote:
"I choose to ignore the face on the captain because I really want to. The alternative is that they are all pinheads. Oh, Mantic."

I admire your tenacity! There are some tv shows where I really wish I could omit certain sections. However, you could also use the Peacekeeper's helmet in your argument, seeing how it is actually substantially larger whilst also barely fitting his head. In that light, the regular Enforcers really couldn't fit their heads

Yeah, I tend to omit whole prequel trilogies or TV series in my personal preferences.

So, the Peacekeepers can fit a whole head, but the regular enforcers can't? "Congratulations on your promotion. Here's your skull back."

Eh, I thought they worked just fine.