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I kind of want to build an octagonal fortress now.... I wonder if one battlezones worth of the 'funky shapes tiles' would be enough...

Yeah, I ordered extra peacekeepers which didn't have the bases.

Had some extra Forge Guard as well. - Anyone know what base size they're supposed to have? Is it just the small bases like on the photograph?

Mine arrived today. All present and correct I must have got a later packing as there are 5 extra 40mm bases which corresponds to the 5 extra Peacekeepers I ordered in wave 3. The hard plastics look great.

Forgeguard go on 25mm bases.

Got my package today, a huge pile of plastic sprues, tho missing the bases for the extra sprues I ordered :(

Weirdly the invoice has the number of base sprues 9 crossed out and 10 hand writen with a note saying 'have a free one'

I need to put in a missing base form then for my peacekeepers tho which is annoying since their what I wanted to work on first.

Doees anybody know when the proposed warpath 3.0 beta rules will arrive, I'm sure I heard xmas time at some point?

I finally got to my peacekeepers sprues and saw the unhelmeted faces. I actually facepalmed, which is dangerous for someone with huge nerd glasses. Does anyone want them? I'll ship them in a normal envelope to whoever wants them the most/at all. There are only two; I only bought 2 of each new sprue because I learned a bitter lesson from goin in big on Basileans.

So far, it looks like the peacekeepers are superior minis to the enforcers. Will they be the same price at retail, or will Mantic pull a GW on pricing for points?

My quick scan of miniature market didn't show any regular enforcers from deadzone... but the Peacekeepers sprues are totally 24.9919.99 for a box of 5 up for preorder. So definitely not 10 bucks like the crazy kickstarter price, nor 50 bucks like a box of terminators. I think it feels about right. The variety/sharpness isn't there for them to cost like gw terminators, but for half the price... I may look into buying some more in the future. They may wait for pathfinders to hit HP too, but I'm really anxious to see what kind of arrangement and discount we might see on varying sizes of enforcers army deals.

More directly to Bob's question... I can't see them charging *more* for the regular enforcers, though they may sell them in 10-20 man boxen instead where we may see a bit of a discount. I don't think the peacekeepers look like they're gouging price for points.

I guess I will wait to see the army deals and Miniature Market liquidation prices. 5 4 bucks per besprued plastic miniature just doesn't feel right to me.

I should be getting some DFG Valkirs soon, so I will be able to compare them. I am willing to bet now that their kits will give a lot more value per dollar.

^If you like the aesthetic, I can't 'reconcile the eisenkern stuff, as much as I want to like it.

How does one get in to the octagonal fortress? There are no doors! I guess the enforcers rocket jump their way in.

It'll be interesting to see hard plastic pathfinders.

After spending my weekend building/ painting a Verminlord, I am more than happy to pick up some rodents to plague the tabletop.

Those new Stormvermin rat ogres look like they'd be welcomed with open arms by the Veermyn too. Might have to use those unless the space rats get their own equivalent of a Stuntbot or Strider.

 GrimDork wrote:
^If you like the aesthetic, I can't 'reconcile the eisenkern stuff, as much as I want to like it.

Yeah, there's that issue, too. The Valkir will have some naziless heads on the sprue, which might help.

Getting back to price, these kits are not even close to Terminators in options or overall quality. The design is amazing, but the detail is slightly softer than DFG or GW, and the options are severely lacking. It is impossible to give all 5 peacekeepers the same helmet or weapons options, for example. Even if they were Terminator quality, well, I don't buy Terminators these days, either. Maybe it is because I got into GW when minis came 20 (or 10 for space marines) in a box for $30. Maybe it is because BL novels added some "Star Wars factor" value to the GW kits. Maybe it is because the Peacekeepers have to compete with more plastic kits and more competition, including my closet full of unassembled space marines. But for whatever reason, I can't see paying nearly as much today as GW wanted to charge when they alienated me as a customer.

Also, the enforcers have tiny little toddler hands, at it is damn creepy.

At $5 per mini, I notice flaws like that. For $2 or $3 per mini, though, I'd probably be completely psyched for all the awesomeness of the design and the kit and never shut up about it.

Wave 3 arrived so that marks an end to the Deadzone ks for me. In hindsight, possibly should have priced up a Forge Father starter and a battle damaged battlezone. Pleased with the peacekeepers. I wonder if magnets it the sockets would work to swap spare kit around.

When Deadzone "2" launches, I'd be surprised if I didn't back it.

Kickstarter value is there, but I find retail overpriced. Possibly because there's a lot of KS stuff on the second hand market.

I like the setting, I like the rules, I'd like to see more but I don't think I'll be buying any Warpath armies.

Wave 3 arrived. Missing one inferno drill, but that's pretty minor.

 GrimDork wrote:
My quick scan of miniature market didn't show any regular enforcers from deadzone... but the Peacekeepers sprues are totally 24.9919.99 for a box of 5 up for preorder. So definitely not 10 bucks like the crazy kickstarter price, nor 50 bucks like a box of terminators. I think it feels about right. The variety/sharpness isn't there for them to cost like gw terminators, but for half the price...

I've grown to dislike Space Marine aesthetics over the years, so for me, Peacekeepers are just infinitely better than Terminators, design-wise. $20 for five awesome looking dudes with lots of big guns and shields? My only complaint is I didn't get more than 15 thru the KS. (Anyone who doesn't like them and want to recoup their $10-per-5 investment, let me know; I'll take them)

I think the peacekeepers are in a good place to do well. The pricing of the Enforcers I'm curious to see. But a big army deal of both with maybe some pathfinders and or a strider mixed in.. that's what I really want to see.

I'm assembling some Enforcers tonight.

If anyone is curious, I'm pretty sure that body D is suppose to be running with just the point of the right foot on the boss and that he isn't supposed to be breakdancing or doing the cancan.

But... I'm not sure.

Legs E are a bit weird too...

 Compel wrote:
I'm assembling some Enforcers tonight.

If anyone is curious, I'm pretty sure that body D is suppose to be running with just the point of the right foot on the boss and that he isn't supposed to be breakdancing or doing the cancan.

But... I'm not sure.

Legs E are a bit weird too...

yea, i've noticed that myself today
i've also found it helps a great deal to attach one of the legs to the base first, rather then both to the body like i did with the first couple i built

That wouldn't have worked with me I think... Or at least, how I've assembled legs D and E.

As far as I can tell...

Body D has the right foot on the base.
Body E has the left foot on the base,

 Compel wrote:
That wouldn't have worked with me I think... Or at least, how I've assembled legs D and E.

As far as I can tell...

Body D has the right foot on the base.
Body E has the left foot on the base,

bah, i'm growing to hate d and e
it seems to get a decent footing, you need to attach the leg thats straightened out the most first, otherwise its a pain getting a pose that doesn't look like the pee dance or something

Would somebody who is in the know about both game types be able loosely outline how Warpath differs from DZ? I only have access to DZ and thought the two were similar (don't know why, but I did - seems that that's not the case, though)

Someone else can better elaborate but warpath is more the scope of 40k with several squads and vehicles on a side. Some/all of the models are/will be compatible, with deadzone having 5-10ish minis and warpath going more in the 35-50 or higher.


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Warpath has just dice and tapes, not so much with the tokens and cards like deadzone. Warpath has had two editions but neither has had a lot of support. There will eventually be a warpath rulebook/core game kickstarter but they've been delaying it presumably to get ducks in a row first.

Thanks heaps, GrimDork :-) That's exactly the kind of explanation I was after, much appreciated


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I hope that doesn't read sarcastically, because it's not meant to, truly appreciative!

Warpath rules are available free here:
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e62f0c35454fa3ba687404d69/files/Warpath_II_Rules.pdf

 Azazelx wrote:
Warpath rules are available free here:
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e62f0c35454fa3ba687404d69/files/Warpath_II_Rules.pdf

I would caution however, that they aren't a particularly good insight into the upcoming Warpath rules.

 Azazelx wrote:
Warpath rules are available free here:
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e62f0c35454fa3ba687404d69/files/Warpath_II_Rules.pdf

Thanks again, Azazelx

You're pretty much the king of links right now.


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Oh, are there snippets of info about what they'll be like?

 AkhilleusK42 wrote:

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Oh, are there snippets of info about what they'll be like?

All we have is there are going to be two rule sets - one regular based like Warpath 2 or 40k, and one involving multibasing/movement trays for Armageddonish mass battle like Warpath 1. We were supposed to get a beta copy of the rules with Deadzone wave 2 for public playtesting, but that got pushed back. Presumably because the Pathfinders finally got it across that the vocal Warpath 1 proponents were a very small minority, and that just having the multibase rules would be a massive turnoff to most potential 40k converts, so they needed to dump it or do both.

And we also know that Deadzone minis are meant to be (with a few exceptions) small numbers of elites in Warpath, alongside the large squads of basic troops and larger vehicles that Deadzone is too small to use.

Multi-basing is currently something you can do that makes moving and arranging your models more convenient, nothing more.

Personally I don't see any point in not using a multi-base when models are outside terrain but it's up to individuals.

Wait, wave three has shipped?!

Oh god, if only I'd known about kickstarter before I did all those horrible things to gypsies!

Joyboozer wrote:
Wait, wave three has shipped?!

Oh god, if only I'd known about kickstarter before I did all those horrible things to gypsies!

I know how to fix this, all of my family are gypsies.

Just brush the nearest dog and put the hair in the nearest mailbox. The post will know what to do. They have dealt with our people before.

Thanks for the info! It's a shame they have put it off for a while, I'm really interested in seeing where Mantic goes.

And yes, wave three has shipped, if you haven't received your models yet we're starting a club. Barnacle111 didn't make the cut, the damn traitor already has his

I got my Wave 3 stuff.

Looks nice. But I think they havent added the Forgefather sprue from the Starter Set in the shipment. I don't know why I bother sometimes :(