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While I'm not going to put it past Mantic to have messed that up somehow, could those not simply be the sample models before the production run? They don't look like they're actually the models themselves, but instead it appears they're a label on a box. In that case, I wouldn't expect them to use a clear plastic since it wouldn't show up as well.

Not that it guarantees they didn't do exact what we're fearing, because Mantic, but let's not ignore other viable explanations until further information makes it clear where reality lies.

I know... But Mantic does tend to open themselves up for this type of criticism.

Even though I'm not getting these, I do hope the MVP figs actually sent to customers are the clear/colored figs to match the respective teams.

It's confirmed in the comments that the picture is of someone's wave 2 delivery they came from a Facebook post so the 2 MVPs are definitely grey plastic

Yep, wave 2 delivery, you can see the packaging underneath.

Man, I should have bought another set of MVPs to use in Deadzone. Especially Excavator.

Quick question, where do I address the package so that I can send back my Crypt and Phantasm so that I can have them replaced with ones made in the material I paid for?

 NTRabbit wrote:
Quick question, where do I address the package so that I can send back my Crypt and Phantasm so that I can have them replaced with ones made in the material I paid for?

I just went through all the updates. They never actually said those MVPs would be in clear plastic, just the teams themselves. I think we all just kinda assumed the MVPs would get the same treatment.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Yep, wave 2 delivery, you can see the packaging underneath.

Then yep...Mantic, almost.

 Alex C wrote:

I just went through all the updates. They never actually said those MVPs would be in clear plastic, just the teams themselves. I think we all just kinda assumed the MVPs would get the same treatment.

Lol.

Dakka... assumptions.

So still no plastic Enforcers my end that I am owed from my initial pledge. Do I wait assuming that they are in the mail (I thought that all Wave 3 DZ packages had been sent?) or shoot off a missing items survey?

Or are Mantic just being tediously vindictive as I pulled my £200 Wave 3 extra payment as they could not be arsed to show off the production minis before I paid for them?

It's not the best photo of them, but from what I can see, the MVPs turned out great. Most, maybe all of mine will be getting Deadzonified eventually, and they look like they'll add a lot of personality.

The fluff covering the opaque Crystallan / Ada-Lorena MVPs is actually remarkably literate. The Crystallan are this incredibly original commentary on society, such that socially invisible types ("what's-his-name," "so-and-so," "Bubba") become physically translucent, while named individuals become more opaque as their identities calcify. In an ironic twist that might have come from the pen of Oscar Wilde's cousin's brother's neighbor, famous Crystallan inevitably devolve into complete immobility and become their own living memorials, like Hollywood celebrities entombed alive inside their own concrete plots on the Walk of Fame. You want fame? Well, fame costs. And right here is where you start paying. With sweat. And Petrification.

As for the Ada-Lorena, I thought everybody knew that males are translucent, females are opaque. It's a chilling allegory of gender identity and androgynarchal oppression in an sexually asexual world worthy of Margaret Atwood's publicist's half-brother.

@Thraxas of Tural - I haven't received anything from Deadzone wave 3 yet either, and I didn't cancel anything, so it's not just you.

If you did a chargeback rather than request a refund, they may well pull your Wave 3 because of fees from the bank.

Neither, they requested £200 as a result of 2nd/3rd survey, I said nope as they had not showed the goods.

They have the $150 from my initial pledge, which is what the owed Enforcers are from.

But as Vermonter has said it just seems like the 3rd wave have not all been sent out. I would not like to be an order picker at Mantic HQ with the workload they have.

Ahh, gotcha.

BobtheInquisitor wrote:I finally received a reply. So I guess Mintic's CS is 100% fine now, even for entitled babies like me who actually do want responses to our inquiries.







Hopefully Alpharius will hold up his end of the bargain and disable the bomb-collar.

This is good news for me...

...and for you!

pretre wrote:That may be a bit over dramatic.

Are you not Entertained?!?

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
So still no plastic Enforcers my end that I am owed from my initial pledge. Do I wait assuming that they are in the mail (I thought that all Wave 3 DZ packages had been sent?) or shoot off a missing items survey?

Or are Mantic just being tediously vindictive as I pulled my £200 Wave 3 extra payment as they could not be arsed to show off the production minis before I paid for them?

It's probably worthwhile to send Stewart an email. As much as I complain about Mantic's delays, I find it hard to believe they would be vindictive. I think I would have seen some of that pointed my way by now if they were the type.

Still waiting on my Deadzone wave 3 package, but I got my Dreadball Xtreme shipment in the mail today.

I'm pretty pleased with the MVP figures. Unfortunately, my Kryphos was miscast; half his face has been blotted out by bad casting. I'd be curious to know if this is a universal problem, or just a one-off fluke, before I email Mantic and ask them for a replacement.

Outside of that, the MVPs and Rebs are generally well-done and ripe for Deadzone modification. Outside of the head problem, Kryphos' body / tentacles are particularly nice.

Oh, and the Teraton booster I ordered showed up as a rather heavy little pack of metal figures. Not sure how I feel about them yet. The sculpts are great, and the metal casts may be crisper in detail overall, but my original team PVC Teratons had no casting flaws and went together well, while these metal ones have some blobbed out areas where detail was lost to miscasting, and they don't go together easily.

I'll be asking for a replacement Kryphos, but I may just keep these metal Teratons, as I was planning on modding them for Deadzone anyway, and the metal is kind of cool outside of the flaws.

Yes, the team boosters for Season 3 were all metal - evidently the boosters weren't selling well enough to justify plastic tooling by that point. Although...the Kickstarter supposedly paid for the tooling, so not quite sure what happened there. I certainly have had casting issues with Mantic metals (ironically one-man operations like Heresy tend to have near flawless castings), so will be keeping an eye out for the Teratons/Nameless I ordered!

Bioptic wrote:
Yes, the team boosters for Season 3 were all metal - evidently the boosters weren't selling well enough to justify plastic tooling by that point. Although...the Kickstarter supposedly paid for the tooling, so not quite sure what happened there. I certainly have had casting issues with Mantic metals (ironically one-man operations like Heresy tend to have near flawless castings), so will be keeping an eye out for the Teratons/Nameless I ordered!

Thanks, Bioptic, that's good to know. I didn't realize that all the Season 3 boosters were done in metal . . . I somehow had the impression that there'd been both metal and plastic batches. Now I won't be tempted to waste time hunting down a non-existent PVC version of the Teraton booster.

Um...not sure where that idea came from... I have all plastic Terratons. All of my wave 3 Dreadball was Restic. I heard they switched materials partway through. Not sure which was the original batch, but there are definitely metal and restic floating out there.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Um...not sure where that idea came from... I have all plastic Terratons. All of my wave 3 Dreadball was Restic. I heard they switched materials partway through. Not sure which was the original batch, but there are definitely metal and restic floating out there.

The teams are PVC but the boosters were metal, right? (prone figs, keeper, etc)

As an aside, the Fortified sprues are the worst of the battlezone sprues. Ugh. I love their terrain, but really those are really not the best.

It was actually the subject of some considerable ire at the time, because Mantic didn't tell anyone about the material change before shipping out the Kickstarter Season 3 boosters!

Offical response from James Hewitt at the time was:

The choice to go with metal for the DreadBall Season 3 boosters wasn't one we made lightly, but we decided that as most people who pick up Season 3 teams (especially the boosters) are more experienced players, they'd appreciate the added detail and fewer mould lines that metal gives you. Of course, in hindsight, I think we'd ideally have done things differently.

Dreadball definitely benefits from being all-plastic though, as it is the epitome of "shove two teams inside the box, put the box in your backpack". I'm now imagining the metal Teratons as tiny wrecking balls, snapping the lithe limbs of the Judwan... I'm very pleased indeed with the material shown so far in Xtreme.

Quick question, how were the Dreadball Xtreme 2nd wave packages posted in the UK? DPD have been a pain with a parcel of mine and I'm trying to figure out if Mantic sent it.

Yeah, I got a bunch of the more interesting DBO xenos teams in the DBX manager, but I heard some teams were metal, so I checked on the Mantic shop site, and skipped all the metal teams (I hope).

Got box two of my final deadzone shipment last night. Aside from the admitted base problem, nothing was missing. I actually got 1 more peacekeeper sprue than I was expecting too.

Oooh fancy, can't complain about that those guys are cool.

I think the only extras that I'm *aware of* at this point were in the marauder and plague baggies from the first shipment. That thing where they gave you a whole bag when you were just supposed to get a few models out of it. Think it was the third part of the booster bundle, the extra specialists, plus whatever came in the bag with them. So extra marauder captain, extra 1st gen, etc.

Looking forward to wave 2 DBX so I can get 'hold of the stinking free agents and sponsors they missed on the first wave

So, I've got a 'You were out' today, I don't know whether it's missing Deadzone things, or maybe Dreadball Wave 4. - Anyone got any guesses?

Does anyone have a picture of the regular enforcers assembled? I was having trouble figuring out how the last 2's legs attach. It's possible I may have mixed a leg between them but I don't think so.

They're running. One is running with the right leg back, the other is running with the left leg back. Lemme get a picture of what I did with mine...





At least, that's what I could come up with!