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I don't know why everyone is so convinced it's going to be a licensing thing.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I don't know why everyone is so convinced it's going to be a licensing thing.

Seems to be all the rage these days, and Mantic had previously stated they would like to do a licensed game.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I don't know why everyone is so convinced it's going to be a licensing thing.

Because that would actually be exciting and not a total letdown.


But, yeah, it'll probably just be a letdown.

I bet it will almost not be a letdown!

I do think it'll be an X-Come-esque game from a small studio, - a bit like one of the ones you see GW's games being made from. Or possibly a Dreadball game from Vivid Studios, we know they were talking to them during the Dreadball Xtreme kickstarter, after all.

That does kinda fit the 'mantic almost' concept, I guess :p

The new Enforcer stuff is up for pre-order

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone.html

Enforcers are £9.99/$19.99 for 6 (includes restic medic, and defender parts)
Peacekeepers are £14.99/$24.99 for 5

The Army deal is £49.99/$79.99 for
1 Restic Captain
2 Striders
5 Peacekeepers
20 Enforcers

Basically getting 2 Enforcers, the Captain and both Striders for free in that deal!

Those prices seem pretty darned good to me. - It doesn't just include the medic, of course, but the shotgun arms too.

Hmm, that army deal isn't half bad. You essentially get the 2 Striders and the Captain free, so about 30-40% off. After discount, that's a heck of a deal. I already have one of the old Enforcer army deals, but this might be worth getting. Would have preferred to see the metal captain, but I already have one so it's not a huge issue.

Nice to see them throw the Medic in with the plastic sprues, it does a fair bit for the value.

 Compel wrote:
Those prices seem pretty darned good to me. - It doesn't just include the medic, of course, but the shotgun arms too.

Missed the defender parts thanks added now. Makes sense as they are in the same bag as the medic.

The KS equivalent price for army deal was $78 just for reference s a saving of $1.99!

I edited that figure up as I miscalculated on the Enforcers at $10 for 10 rather than $10 for 5.

The army deal does not include medic and defender arms, tho.

But really a great price anyways, especially for the Not-40k crowd

edit: also noticed the pic of Enforcers in the army deal includes a fusion gun guy; that's a metal model. doh!

They need a disclaimer that you can only use about 6/26 of those minis in deadzone at a time for regular games, and less if you include the big guys.

Wonder why there are two striders.... kind of overkill for deadzone, and not enough for warpath as the rules stand now... I think they'll need a rewrite in warpath though to have stats and costs closer to a 40k dreadnought or similar, than what they were before (which was closer to peacekeepers with big guns but less melee capacity.. and a decent run speed).


I also noticed in the latest newsletter/blog they call the guns the peacekeepers have shotguns. Pretty sure they're supposed to be dominator rifles aka not-stormbolters?

 GrimDork wrote:
They need a disclaimer that you can only use about 6/26 of those minis in deadzone at a time for regular games, and less if you include the big guys.

What do you mean? You can use all of those models in Deadzone. Or do you mean at a time in a 70 point game?

They need a disclaimer that you can only use about 6/26 of those minis in deadzone at a time for regular games, and less if you include the big guys.

Army deal does seem like a pretty solid value compared to buying it piecemeal though. I just meant that you couldn't possibly *need* all of those models to play most any game of deadzone aside from possibly a really big 4 mat game, and I'm not sure how many people really opt to do that.

I'm just a tiny bit burned I got so many models for DZ when you need so few to play, I guess

It seems like a solid deal for warpath, but only if they sort striders out to not be in units of 3.

The deal seems good to me, especially anticipating next Black Friday's discounts.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Striders, Stuntbots etc. get re written in the next Warpath to individual model units, Stuntbots in particular are too expensive price wise to field in units of 3 and they have said recently (in Ironwatch #30) that they don't sell enough to justify plastic.

Striders kind of seemed to suck anyway... they were priced at like 2x the points of a peacekeeper but they weren't as tough, and just had the big guns and move 6 or so to justify it. I think switching them up to be more like light tanks in stats would be appropriate.

Received my Dreadball extreme today. Hobgoblin team is awesome. The metal casting on the cheerleaders and fans a bit ropey but easily cleaned up.

The Unicycle + Foot Pathfinder seems awfully expensive, are we sure that isn't a typo?

 NTRabbit wrote:
The Unicycle + Foot Pathfinder seems awfully expensive, are we sure that isn't a typo?

That was my thought as well. I apprecite it's resin, but £10 a mini is getting into GW terrirtory, even if one is a little larger. Surely resin can't be that much more expensive than metal?

Doubt it is a typo, just equals the cost from the Deadzone surveys (but exchanging Dollars for Pounds).

It's the same as the strider. It's a resin bike and rider, plus a foot model too. Even if you space it out and consider it as 3 models that's over 10 dollars a piece...

Compare it to Yojimbo from Infinity:
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/42451/s/cvb280716-0490/
And it's just plain laughable. More bike, extra explosive robots, higher quality sculpts and just more in general for a lower MSRP. If that's what they have to sell resin for to make it profitable/not break the bank.... they should stay the hell away from it

 Paradigm wrote:

 NTRabbit wrote:
The Unicycle + Foot Pathfinder seems awfully expensive, are we sure that isn't a typo?

That was my thought as well. I apprecite it's resin, but £10 a mini is getting into GW terrirtory, even if one is a little larger. Surely resin can't be that much more expensive than metal?

Resin by weight is cheaper, but the moulds don't last as long... Plus I don't think Mantic cast resin in house, plus they probably don't expect to sell many, plus there is much more to pricing than just material costs...

It probably is a bit much.

The nearest GW equivalent would be King Aragorn on Foot and Mounted, who comes in at £22 in metal. But then, I'm personally willing to give mantic the doubt on this one, because there really is enough weird things about the model (EG all the different colours of resins), that they must have gone to some special effort and expense with making it.

I kind of wonder if they're just selling them like that to clear out stock and maybe look to plastic someday, or just phase it out.

is the bunch of stuff you guys are receiving now listed as 'rampage bundle' on the packing slip?
I just got an envelope with a packing slip for that and a handfulll of small gubbins, but only the small gubbins are there. just figuring out if I actually should be getting sweet spot level components this wave

 Bolognesus wrote:
is the bunch of stuff you guys are receiving now listed as 'rampage bundle' on the packing slip?
I just got an envelope with a packing slip for that and a handfulll of small gubbins, but only the small gubbins are there. just figuring out if I actually should be getting sweet spot level components this wave

I'm guessing that the rampage bundle refers to the large bag of MVPs and 1 extra free agent pack.

Right, I figured that too. Thank you.

Warpath Enforcer army box is looking pretty sweet, hopefully an Enforcer mega army deal for the Warpath KS will appear once hard plastic pathfinders (coming in the DZ 2.0 KS) and some more vehicles are released.

Looking forward to that more than anything else this year, with the Enforcer army mostly complete by the time it launches (along with at least 1 good sprue for forgefathers, veer-myn and plague), they'll be able to go straight into lots more sprues to bulk out the other factions.

Been waiting for Warpath's proper release for an incredibly long time, want it to be my main game since while I loved playing 40k back in the day, it just got too expensive to keep up with competitively. I could play 2.0 but there is no interest in a ruleset without models for the most part, and it is about to be overhauled anyway.

Think the Warpath setting has potential to be more interesting than 40k too, it leans towards hard sci-fi a lot more, especially with the new background material released recently (the Deadzone:Incursion book is great and has star maps and lots of other stuff).

 scarletsquig wrote:
Think the Warpath setting has potential to be more interesting than 40k too, it leans towards hard sci-fi a lot more, especially with the new background material released recently (the Deadzone:Incursion book is great and has star maps and lots of other stuff).

Warpath is a setting where rats - literal rats - are presented as being a credible military threat to the human race. So no, the Warpath has no potential to be great, because it's in the hands of people who don't understand that declaring humanity villains who fail constantly due to their own gross incompetence is a gakky keystone for a franchise.