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Do like the battle scenes though, soundtrack'll be good too IMO.
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Aesop the God Awful wrote: That does look pretty great. Either way, it can't be worse than Desolation of Smaug.
Watch the newly-released Extended edition of Desolation, it fixes so much. I must admit, I wasn't a great fan of the theatrical version of it but the extended cut puts it firmly alongside the others.
Aesop the God Awful wrote: That does look pretty great. Either way, it can't be worse than Desolation of Smaug.
Watch the newly-released Extended edition of Desolation, it fixes so much. I must admit, I wasn't a great fan of the theatrical version of it but the extended cut puts it firmly alongside the others.
I’ve not been a huge fan of the Hobbit movies. Too many concessions to Hollywood, butchering of events in the book. I’ll catch this one on netflix eventually. Even if the extended version of Smaug is better, I’m not sure I could stomach watching it again. It needed stuff cut out, not added to it.
I know the feeling. 6 films we've waited to see 3 of the most powerful characters in Middle Earth in full kick-ass mode, and now, we shall. Also, take a close look at the shot of Gandalf and Galadriel. There are quite clearly 9 ghostly figures in a ring around them... Looks like my wish to see the Nazgul is fulfilled.
Can't wait for this. Some serious badassness. Though I think Saruman could potentially do something douchey with Sauron in this film...Sneaky white wizard..
Yeah, I think we'll get at least a hint of a 'join me on the Dark Side' moment between Saruman and Sauron. I actually really like how the Hobbit has handled Saruman in his brief role so far, with the same arrogance even without the corruption of the ring. His rant about Radagast is particularly brilliant.
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Paradigm wrote: Yeah, I think we'll get at least a hint of a 'join me on the Dark Side' moment between Saruman and Sauron. I actually really like how the Hobbit has handled Saruman in his brief role so far, with the same arrogance even without the corruption of the ring. His rant about Radagast is particularly brilliant.
Yeah Saruman seems to be a douche with or without Sauron's influence lol. Christopher Lee totally owns that role.
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I hope they do the Imax 3d showing here again. They showed part 1 and 2 back to back on thursday night for a midnight showing. Its going to be a brutal 9+ hours but well worth it. Assuming they dont price gouge.......
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Aesop the God Awful wrote: That does look pretty great. Either way, it can't be worse than Desolation of Smaug.
Watch the newly-released Extended edition of Desolation, it fixes so much. I must admit, I wasn't a great fan of the theatrical version of it but the extended cut puts it firmly alongside the others.
While that may be true, it says a lot about Peter Jackson's directing that he now struggles to tell a story -- and especially THIS story -- in a reasonable amount of minutes.
The first two films simply weren't very good IMO, and I'll have no problem waiting to get this one at the Redbox.
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I'm a pretty diehard LotR fan, and I can't understand the criticism of the way the Hobbit was handled.
Yes, he changed the story. But that was kinda necessary. The Hobbit was a lighthearted childrens fairy tale that had a very different tone from the overall Middle Earth setting. I think Jackson managed to bring it into line without losing some of the lighter moments.
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Grey Templar wrote: I'm a pretty diehard LotR fan, and I can't understand the criticism of the way the Hobbit was handled.
Yes, he changed the story. But that was kinda necessary. The Hobbit was a lighthearted childrens fairy tale that had a very different tone from the overall Middle Earth setting. I think Jackson managed to bring it into line without losing some of the lighter moments.
I agree. I'm a complete nut for the books and the films, and love the Hobbit every bit as much as LotR. As said above, Desolation I was a bit iffy on, until the extended version which pads the bits that needed padding (Beorn, the journey through Mirkwood, Laketown and Dol Guldur) while leaving the rest alone. I have every faith that BotFA will be just as good as any of the others.
Let's be honest, if he had stuck word for word to the book, it would have been one hell of a wasted opportunity.
I agree. I'm a complete nut for the books and the films, and love the Hobbit every bit as much as LotR. As said above, Desolation I was a bit iffy on, until the extended version which pads the bits that needed padding (Beorn, the journey through Mirkwood, Laketown and Dol Guldur) while leaving the rest alone. I have every faith that BotFA will be just as good as any of the others.
Let's be honest, if he had stuck word for word to the book, it would have been one hell of a wasted opportunity.
Just watched the Extended Desolation last night, and you're spot on. It fleshes out the story so very much. Loved the additional bit with Beorn.
I know the feeling. 6 films we've waited to see 3 of the most powerful characters in Middle Earth in full kick-ass mode, and now, we shall. Also, take a close look at the shot of Gandalf and Galadriel. There are quite clearly 9 ghostly figures in a ring around them... Looks like my wish to see the Nazgul is fulfilled.
They look like elves to me, probably with Galadriel as they look more nature based, horns and that. Not doubting the presence of the Nazgul in the film though.
My expectations are so low at this poitn, it won't be hard to surpass them.
But these battle scenes do look awesome.
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Grey Templar wrote: I'm a pretty diehard LotR fan, and I can't understand the criticism of the way the Hobbit was handled.
Yes, he changed the story. But that was kinda necessary. The Hobbit was a lighthearted childrens fairy tale that had a very different tone from the overall Middle Earth setting. I think Jackson managed to bring it into line without losing some of the lighter moments.
I sincerely would've preferred if they made it 1 or 2 children's movies...as you say, it is a children's book, and I'd rather be watching a movie about Tolkiens book than a prequel to Lord of the Rings. Just my opinion here.
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My biggest issue with the Hobbit movies is the lazy use of CGI.
Do the effects look great? Yes, but I much prefer the use of practical effects (like orcs) that were used in LoTR over watching the actors (or sometimes not) fight fake creatures. I genuinely enjoy the Hobbit movies too, they could have been so much better.
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At least its not Lucas levels of CGI.
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When did the Silmarillion, Return of the King addendum, and Tolkien's notes become childrens books? Or is this one of those "let's ignore that it takes from other parts of Tolkein and pretend only this one book exists" argument?
I hope to see this in the theatre in 3B (3 Beers)...but probably 7B or 8B depending on the length. (They sell pints at the movie theatre concessions here.)
Khornholio wrote: I hope to see this in the theatre in 3B (3 Beers)...but probably 7B or 8B depending on the length. (They sell pints at the movie theatre concessions here.)
Movie reviewers in your town must have fun with epic length films.
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jasper76 wrote: My expectations are so low at this poitn, it won't be hard to surpass them.
But these battle scenes do look awesome.
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Grey Templar wrote: I'm a pretty diehard LotR fan, and I can't understand the criticism of the way the Hobbit was handled.
Yes, he changed the story. But that was kinda necessary. The Hobbit was a lighthearted childrens fairy tale that had a very different tone from the overall Middle Earth setting. I think Jackson managed to bring it into line without losing some of the lighter moments.
I sincerely would've preferred if they made it 1 or 2 children's movies...as you say, it is a children's book, and I'd rather be watching a movie about Tolkiens book than a prequel to Lord of the Rings. Just my opinion here.
Umm. The Hobbit is supposed to set the stage for LOTR? Gandalf was the architect of the plan to take back Erebor, he knew if Sauron allied with Smaug it would be very BAD for Middle-Earth. And that is not something I just took from the films.
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I feel like my point is being missed. "The Hobbit" is a children's book. Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" films arenit really children's movies (hence the PG-13 rating iirc). I'd rather have seen a movie or two that were children's movies, because they'd have been truer to the book Tolkien published. End of story. Just a matter of preference.
That's not the reason I don't like the movies to date. I don't like the movies so far, because they've not been very good. If they were up to the high standards set by the LOTR films, I would have liked them, wheether they were G, PG, PG-13, R, or XXX, but they were snoozefests, so I didn't.
The trailers do look promising for the latest Hobbit film.
Automatically Appended Next Post: OK, I think you are taking umbrage to my use of the world "prequel". I do understand that the events of the Hobbit took place in the same world before events of LOTR. I was just using the word in terms of "film style" (as in, these don't seem like "The Hobbit" movies, but "Lord of the Rings: The Desolation of Smaug" and so forth). I should've picked a better term.
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Fair enough, but I'm at the other end of the spectrum, I think that had they Hobbit not kept to the feel established through LotR, they wouldn't have been half as good. By bringing the two halves together, the whole has become much more developed.
There's also a quote out there from Tolkien himself saying that he came to regard writing the Hobbit as a chilren's book in a children's style as a mistake, and given the stuff in RotK's appendices, had he written the Hobbit afterwards, it would be much more like these films.
Paradigm wrote: Fair enough, but I'm at the other end of the spectrum, I think that had they Hobbit not kept to the feel established through LotR, they wouldn't have been half as good. By bringing the two halves together, the whole has become much more developed.
There's also a quote out there from Tolkien himself saying that he came to regard writing the Hobbit as a chilren's book in a children's style as a mistake, and given the stuff in RotK's appendices, had he written the Hobbit afterwards, it would be much more like these films.
I guess part of what informs my opinion on this is that I got into Tolkien at an early age, because I was exposed to the Hobbit book (and yes, as a young child, I was indeed fascinated by the campy cartoon movie, as well). I'm fairly certain my mom wouldn't have taken me to see these new movies in 2nd grade.
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