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How dare they give you an interesting box for free with a moderately large purchase!
This discussion is exactly why GW shouldn't EVER listen to the internet. When there are legitimate issues, then complain. By complaining about nonsense issues, you pretty much degrade the ability for commentary to impact practice.
As stated before, it's not "for free" when you have to purchase a certain amount. They already give you a box "for free" to ship your stuff in (only if you buy $65 or more). Plus as stated before, you're paying 20% more for the privilege of purchasing directly from them. To tout a "free" box like this is just...well, asinine.
I really don't care anyway, I'm off the GW crack. No more abuse for me, I'm clean...for Infinity!
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How dare they give you an interesting box for free with a moderately large purchase!
This discussion is exactly why GW shouldn't EVER listen to the internet. When there are legitimate issues, then complain. By complaining about nonsense issues, you pretty much degrade the ability for commentary to impact practice.
Either I miss your irony or you really don't get it. We're not really complaining here. Complaining would mean that you hope to achieve a betterment, and we're well past this point. No one expects GW to do a *good* promotion anymore.
It's just mocking GW for trying to make you buy something in by providing a printed box instead of the usual cardboard brown. There are probably less than 10 people in the world who'd order an extra pot of paint just to get a different cardoard box.
How dare they give you an interesting box for free with a moderately large purchase!
This discussion is exactly why GW shouldn't EVER listen to the internet. When there are legitimate issues, then complain. By complaining about nonsense issues, you pretty much degrade the ability for commentary to impact practice.
Its almost as though you haven't been reading this thread.
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overtyrant wrote: Well if you only play fantasy this would do you no good...
Indeed I only play fantasy (Nothing really against 40k I've just done like every idea I have had/played like every army and would only be repeating myself)
And while an all swarm army sounds hilarious, as does an all Ratling one, that just seems stretching it when I could just play fantasy, a game I like most of the time.
How dare they give you an interesting box for free with a moderately large purchase!
This discussion is exactly why GW shouldn't EVER listen to the internet. When there are legitimate issues, then complain. By complaining about nonsense issues, you pretty much degrade the ability for commentary to impact practice.
Either I miss your irony or you really don't get it. We're not really complaining here. Complaining would mean that you hope to achieve a betterment, and we're well past this point. No one expects GW to do a *good* promotion anymore.
It's just mocking GW for trying to make you buy something in by providing a printed box instead of the usual cardboard brown. There are probably less than 10 people in the world who'd order an extra pot of paint just to get a different cardoard box.
If I had a cat then maybe...cats do love boxes and that'd be it's present lol
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How dare they give you an interesting box for free with a moderately large purchase!
This discussion is exactly why GW shouldn't EVER listen to the internet. When there are legitimate issues, then complain. By complaining about nonsense issues, you pretty much degrade the ability for commentary to impact practice.
Most people aren't complaining about GW, they are mocking GW.
They are mocking GW because GW thinks that switching the box that they use to dispatch orders for another box is a an actual promotion that deserves its own advertisement. This is the stuff that comedy sketches are made of! "And if you buy more than 100 GBP you'll get this cardboard box for free! But only if you order now, now, NOW, because its a limited edition cardboard box!"
How dare they give you an interesting box for free with a moderately large purchase!
This discussion is exactly why GW shouldn't EVER listen to the internet. When there are legitimate issues, then complain. By complaining about nonsense issues, you pretty much degrade the ability for commentary to impact practice.
Its almost as though you haven't been reading this thread.
I'd say it's exactly like he's not been reading the thread!
But then "fingers in ears, la-la-la" is good enough for GW....
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Except of course that mocking is a complaint in this case. You mock because you are trying to make a commentary on what your perceive as a failed promotion.
It is a box. I called out empty, uncreative mockery as a hollow complaint. I read the thread, it wasn't exactly the most difficult thread to page through given the simple posts.
I am not even "defending" GW here. They are sending a special box if you buy a certain amount of models. How does that require mockery or even comment? It literally costs you nothing to get the box.
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PhillyT wrote: Except of course that mocking is a complaint in this case.
Is it though? Is it really? Or are you just tacking new definitions on to words where you see fit to hold on to your argument?
You mock because you are trying to make a commentary on what your perceive as a failed promotion.
Or...maybe we mock because its worthy of being mocked? A failed promotion, by its nature, should be worthy of being mocked. It failed. It failed quite laughably at that. Therefore, mocking.
It is a box. I called out empty, uncreative mockery as a hollow complaint. I read the thread, it wasn't exactly the most difficult thread to page through given the simple posts.
If it was so simple, what part of mockery are you not understanding?
I am not even "defending" GW here.
Are you not though? Or are we just making up definitions again?
Love the quotes around it too.
They are sending a special box if you buy a certain amount of models. How does that require mockery or even comment? It literally costs you nothing to get the box.
Because they're promoting it. If we just got the box as a nice add-on and surprise, people would be happy. Sending out newsletters advertising that spending 'X' amount gets you a box is pretty ridiculous as promotions go. Maybe other people are used to companies using normal and sane business practices, where discounts or limited things are offered.
Clearly this thread is why GW shouldn't communicate with its customers and get feedback. Can you imagine what would happen if they were to even read this?
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PhillyT wrote: d the thread, it wasn't exactly the most difficult thread to page through given the simple posts.
I am not even "defending" GW here. They are sending a special box if you buy a certain amount of models. How does that require mockery or even comment? It literally costs you nothing to get the box.
It costs you more than buying it from any other online discounter. Since GW ALSO makes more from direct sales than they do from other channels, you'd expect a decent promotion. Its further evidence of what a garbage company it is.
This isn't even as good as the crappy "jelly of the month" club Christmas "bonus" from Christmas Vacation.
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There is no need for a special definition of anything. Call out absurdity within a community that has become so accustomed to complaint isn't really defending anything, it is commentary on a habit of pathetic whining that seems to have taken root.
An electronic newsletter pushing for holiday purchases makes the point that they will send moderate sized purchases in a special, decorative box. What is wrong with that?
You can get all manner of decorative shipping boxes. Some places even sell them. But since it is GW and plenty of people have decided it is a hobby in itself to sit and cry over every action and statement the company makes, a stupid shipping box becomes a source of a rumor discussion on Dakka Dakka? Awesome.
PhillyT wrote: d the thread, it wasn't exactly the most difficult thread to page through given the simple posts.
I am not even "defending" GW here. They are sending a special box if you buy a certain amount of models. How does that require mockery or even comment? It literally costs you nothing to get the box.
It costs you more than buying it from any other online discounter. Since GW ALSO makes more from direct sales than they do from other channels, you'd expect a decent promotion. Its further evidence of what a garbage company it is.
This isn't even as good as the crappy "jelly of the month" club Christmas "bonus" from Christmas Vacation.
So you really think GW is actively going to compete with discount online retailers? They have already taken steps to reduce the discount sales. I don't know who honestly orders from GW direct, but that isn't really the point. If they felt they needed to compete with online retailers, they would likely take further steps to reduce those retailers ability to offer significant discounts. As it is they audit online retailers to ensure they are still selling through brick and mortar locations.
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PhillyT wrote: There is no need for a special definition of anything.
Then we agree on that. Which is why we'll leave mocking and complaining to their own respective definitions.
Call out absurdity within a community that has become so accustomed to complaint isn't really defending anything, it is commentary on a habit of pathetic whining that seems to have taken root.
You realize you're part of this community, and are whining about said community. I hope the irony isn't lost on you.
An electronic newsletter pushing for holiday purchases makes the point that they will send moderate sized purchases in a special, decorative box. What is wrong with that?
Nothing.
What's wrong with making fun of it?
You can get all manner of decorative shipping boxes. Some places even sell them. But since it is GW and plenty of people have decided it is a hobby in itself to sit and cry over every action and statement the company makes, a stupid shipping box becomes a source of a rumor discussion on Dakka Dakka? Awesome.
Just like all the people who come on to the forums to tell everyone else how stupid they sound is sooooo much better, right?
But let's make this a bigger deal than it is, where the majority of thread is simply shaking their head at GW and making fun of their continued ineptitude.
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Because they're promoting it. If we just got the box as a nice add-on and surprise, people would be happy. Sending out newsletters advertising that spending 'X' amount gets you a box is pretty ridiculous as promotions go.
I sort of like the box, because I love boxes. I have a ridiculous amount of boxes of all shapes and sizes... and if I did an order and got this box as a cool thing, I would be overjoyed... but the promoting it is lame. They have a picture on the website and in the app - which is fine - it is the email promotion that sends this to over the top levels.
Oh well. I don't really understand the ridicule or the rage on either side - and while I like the box (because I am a weirdo and love boxes) I think the promotion is a bit lame.
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PhillyT wrote: You can get all manner of decorative shipping boxes. Some places even sell them. But since it is GW and plenty of people have decided it is a hobby in itself to sit and cry over every action and statement the company makes, a stupid shipping box becomes a source of a rumor discussion on Dakka Dakka? Awesome.
No-one is crying over it, unless there's tears of laughter.
As said; shipping stuff in fancy boxes over Christmas (or any time) is fine, no-one has a problem with that. GW sending an email to tell everyone about it as some special promotion is just lame, and requiring a huge purchase to get it at the same time is just lamer. It's a disposable box with some fancy printing on it, has no gift or collectors value, and is something that no other company in the world would offer as part of a promotion. It just doesn't do anything to drive sales.
Because they're promoting it. If we just got the box as a nice add-on and surprise, people would be happy. Sending out newsletters advertising that spending 'X' amount gets you a box is pretty ridiculous as promotions go.
I sort of like the box, because I love boxes. I have a ridiculous amount of boxes of all shapes and sizes... and if I did an order and got this box as a cool thing, I would be overjoyed... but the promoting it is lame. They have a picture on the website and in the app - which is fine - it is the email promotion that sends this to over the top levels.
Oh well. I don't really understand the ridicule or the rage on either side - and while I like thebox(because I am a weirdo and love boxes) I think the promotion is a bit lame.
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PhillyT wrote: It literally costs you nothing to get the box.
Except, y'know, the required order amount.
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PhillyT wrote: There is no need for a special definition of anything. Call out absurdity within a community that has become so accustomed to complaint isn't really defending anything, it is commentary on a habit of pathetic whining that seems to have taken root.
An electronic newsletter pushing for holiday purchases makes the point that they will send moderate sized purchases in a special, decorative box. What is wrong with that?
You can get all manner of decorative shipping boxes. Some places even sell them. But since it is GW and plenty of people have decided it is a hobby in itself to sit and cry over every action and statement the company makes, a stupid shipping box becomes a source of a rumor discussion on Dakka Dakka? Awesome.
PhillyT wrote: d the thread, it wasn't exactly the most difficult thread to page through given the simple posts.
I am not even "defending" GW here. They are sending a special box if you buy a certain amount of models. How does that require mockery or even comment? It literally costs you nothing to get the box.
It costs you more than buying it from any other online discounter. Since GW ALSO makes more from direct sales than they do from other channels, you'd expect a decent promotion. Its further evidence of what a garbage company it is.
This isn't even as good as the crappy "jelly of the month" club Christmas "bonus" from Christmas Vacation.
So you really think GW is actively going to compete with discount online retailers? They have already taken steps to reduce the discount sales. I don't know who honestly orders from GW direct, but that isn't really the point. If they felt they needed to compete with online retailers, they would likely take further steps to reduce those retailers ability to offer significant discounts. As it is they audit online retailers to ensure they are still selling through brick and mortar locations.
Again, this just goes to show what a lame company GW is. When Wyrd runs their holiday promo, you get an exclusive figure and special effects minis like their clear plastic ghost/ice/shadow figures, etc. PP offers actual discount bundles and a rules book. GW offers... a box.
Its like a a hotel running a special that boldly announces you room comes complete with a pillow case for EACH pillow. Whoop de fart.
PhillyT wrote: It literally costs you nothing to get the box.
Except, y'know, the required order amount.
And the opportunity cost of saving money or getting more toys by ordering elsewhere.
Which must be the fourth time this has been explicitly stated and yet ignored in favour of criticisms of people for being critical.
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Everyone here is complaining about the wrong box..................
This is the box you all should be complaing about
The reason why is because its awesome. This project box is a pretty awesome thing for quick set up and break down as well as taking a project with you. Why you should be complaining is because it is quite useful IMO but for $66 make its a fething joke. Even for $33 its a joke. If this box was in the 20's I would own one but sadly for $66 this box is just something that I wish wasnt obnoxiously priced and want one just like the old GW bags
These???
Everyone I know who owns one loves them but they came with an attached price of NOPE.
The real complaint that everyone should have here is not the free cardboard (who cares really?) but the actually pretty cool products that they price in such a manner that makes it just obnoxious to own. If those project boxes were $25 I know about 20 people who would own one by now. This is the real shame about the holiday "box"
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Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
Again, the issue isn't the box itself, it's the misguided idea that we're all suddenly going to spend £100 in order to get it.
It's like an estate agent offering you a house for £999,000, but saying they'll throw in a free doorbell if you round it up to £1,000,000.
Right now if your order comes to £95, they're counting on the offer of a flashy delivery box to get you to round it out to £100+.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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Avatar 720 wrote: Again, the issue isn't the box itself, it's the misguided idea that we're all suddenly going to spend £100 in order to get it.
It's like an estate agent offering you a house for £999,000, but saying they'll throw in a free doorbell if you round it up to £1,000,000.
Right now if your order comes to £95, they're counting on the offer of a flashy delivery box to get you to round it out to £100+.
Then dont do it????
Really who cares what they offer? If its not good enough for you to change how you buy products then show them that by NOT BUYING ANYTHING. Its really a silly argument/complaint.
RoperPG wrote: Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
Avatar 720 wrote: Again, the issue isn't the box itself, it's the misguided idea that we're all suddenly going to spend £100 in order to get it.
It's like an estate agent offering you a house for £999,000, but saying they'll throw in a free doorbell if you round it up to £1,000,000.
Right now if your order comes to £95, they're counting on the offer of a flashy delivery box to get you to round it out to £100+.
Then dont do it????
Really who cares what they offer? If its not good enough for you to change how you buy products then show them that by NOT BUYING ANYTHING. Its really a silly argument/complaint.
Hang on, aren't you the person who posted this literally minutes ago?
namiel wrote:
Spoiler:
Everyone here is complaining about the wrong box..................
This is the box you all should be complaing about
The reason why is because its awesome. This project box is a pretty awesome thing for quick set up and break down as well as taking a project with you. Why you should be complaining is because it is quite useful IMO but for $66 make its a fething joke. Even for $33 its a joke. If this box was in the 20's I would own one but sadly for $66 this box is just something that I wish wasnt obnoxiously priced and want one just like the old GW bags
These???
Everyone I know who owns one loves them but they came with an attached price of NOPE.
The real complaint that everyone should have here is not the free cardboard (who cares really?) but the actually pretty cool products that they price in such a manner that makes it just obnoxious to own. If those project boxes were $25 I know about 20 people who would own one by now. This is the real shame about the holiday "box"
Criticising people for doing the same as you are doing has a special word you know.
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Avatar 720 wrote: Again, the issue isn't the box itself, it's the misguided idea that we're all suddenly going to spend £100 in order to get it.
It's like an estate agent offering you a house for £999,000, but saying they'll throw in a free doorbell if you round it up to £1,000,000.
Right now if your order comes to £95, they're counting on the offer of a flashy delivery box to get you to round it out to £100+.
Then dont do it????
Really who cares what they offer? If its not good enough for you to change how you buy products then show them that by NOT BUYING ANYTHING. Its really a silly argument/complaint.
Hang on, aren't you the person who posted this literally minutes ago?
namiel wrote:
Spoiler:
Everyone here is complaining about the wrong box..................
This is the box you all should be complaing about
The reason why is because its awesome. This project box is a pretty awesome thing for quick set up and break down as well as taking a project with you. Why you should be complaining is because it is quite useful IMO but for $66 make its a fething joke. Even for $33 its a joke. If this box was in the 20's I would own one but sadly for $66 this box is just something that I wish wasnt obnoxiously priced and want one just like the old GW bags
These???
Everyone I know who owns one loves them but they came with an attached price of NOPE.
The real complaint that everyone should have here is not the free cardboard (who cares really?) but the actually pretty cool products that they price in such a manner that makes it just obnoxious to own. If those project boxes were $25 I know about 20 people who would own one by now. This is the real shame about the holiday "box"
Criticising people for doing the same as you are doing has a special word you know.
Im not going to be spending the money on it. My complaint is different as its something useful rather then just any old cardboard box. So no i will not be buying a project box because it is way overpriced. The difference is that one you get for free for ordering a specific amount of product and is utterly useless, the other is quite a useful product that is just way overpriced.
One is something worth having and the other is dumb. Thats the difference
RoperPG wrote: Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
Avatar 720 wrote: Again, the issue isn't the box itself, it's the misguided idea that we're all suddenly going to spend £100 in order to get it.
It's like an estate agent offering you a house for £999,000, but saying they'll throw in a free doorbell if you round it up to £1,000,000.
Right now if your order comes to £95, they're counting on the offer of a flashy delivery box to get you to round it out to £100+.
Then dont do it????
Really who cares what they offer? If its not good enough for you to change how you buy products then show them that by NOT BUYING ANYTHING. Its really a silly argument/complaint.
No, it's not a silly complaint; GW thinks that we're all stupid enough to be tempted to spend more money in exchange for a box. If that's not flipping the proverbial Vs up at your customers then I don't know what is. I personally care because treating your customers as if they're brain-dead morons just doesn't sit well with me.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Avatar 720 wrote: Again, the issue isn't the box itself, it's the misguided idea that we're all suddenly going to spend £100 in order to get it.
It's like an estate agent offering you a house for £999,000, but saying they'll throw in a free doorbell if you round it up to £1,000,000.
Right now if your order comes to £95, they're counting on the offer of a flashy delivery box to get you to round it out to £100+.
Then dont do it????
Really who cares what they offer? If its not good enough for you to change how you buy products then show them that by NOT BUYING ANYTHING. Its really a silly argument/complaint.
No, it's not a silly complaint; GW thinks that we're all stupid enough to be tempted to spend more money in exchange for a box. If that's not flipping the proverbial Vs up at your customers then I don't know what is. I personally care because treating your customers as if they're brain-dead morons just doesn't sit well with me.
But $17 coffee cups that are free advertisement for them isnt stupid? What about taking the large carrying case and adding $5 to the price and calling it "special edition"?
Sure they are trying to get people to buy stuff to get a cardboard box is dumb but the box is inherently free while other products that you are actually paying for is just silly.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Of all the holiday offerings this one takes the cake
$8 for 20 pieces of paper...............
Paper plates cost what $1 at the bargan grocery store for 100? they are even bigger too. This is by far the WORST offering this year from GW
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RoperPG wrote: Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon?
We expect overpriced stuff from GW. I've already complained in another thread about how they want $45 for the ebook version of the new Shield of Baal campaign, because the elections must be gold plated or something.
But to advertise their Christmas promotion as a special shipping box at a certain price point? That's just absurd.
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