Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
If they want to keep selling the hardback editions, they would do well to offer a free digital copy with a purchase of one of them. That way they'd be good value for money vs the paperback. Paperback buyers could get a discount on the digital edition, if they wanted to go that way.

If they did that I should think a fair few folk would buy them, keep the digital version and re-sell the hardback

(but giving a significant discount for getting both would be fair)

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You like the removal of fluff and the inclusion of huge photos rather than original artwork?

Well... I don't agree with that sentiment, the only codex I felt was truly light concerning the fluff so far was the Imperial Guard one. But hey, I'm relatively new to the hobby, my first codeci were the 5th ones, so maybe that's why I can easily enjoy the new stuff

Look up a second edition codex on Ebay, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
I guess they don't. But then GW did increase the price significantly when they moved to hardcover using that as the reason for the price increase.

The switch to hardcover wasn't the only reason for the price increase... They switched to full colour at the same time.

Will see if this happens, the price of the books are just piss taking and since the direction of the new 7th edition codexs (no art just catalogue photos) I just cant be bothered to part with my money.

In comparison, I just spent £12 on a full colour 88 page campaign book (bit like a codex but for 2 armies) for flames of war. The quality of the book is just like the old soft back codex's. Also last year I purchased 2 FoW army books in hardback both 300 odd pages and just as good as the FW Imperial Armour books...the cost? £45 for both of them.

I love the GW stuff and have loads of 40k armies but other companies are really making it hard for me to part with my cash.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
That's me, and because I don't buy the books, I don't buy the models either, I don't buy the rules, I don't buy any of the formations, dataslates or their add-on items that I might have been tempted into once I had the core rules.

So for the sake of trying to screw an extra £15 out of me for the Tau codex, GW have actually lost at least £100 of sales on codex, rules and additional models (Riptide, etc.)




Automatically Appended Next Post:
I do not believe it is merely coincidence that GW's annual sales fell 8% the year after doubling the price of codexes.

Ontop of that.. the new codices look terrible, imo. The layout looks amateurish, the fluff is gutted, there are barely any pictures compared to previous books. In general they raised the prices, cut the costs and reduced the content. It's no longer a book I want to own unlike 5th ed books which had higher production values.

*shrugs* different strokes for different folks. Personally from 5th I only got my Necron codex and that's it, and when 6th arrived I started collecting every codex because of how amazing I think the books are. To me, everything about the new codeci, codex supplement and campaign supplement like Leviathan are things of beauty,

I have advocated that GW should publish two sets of rules and codexes; the expensive ones with all the production values, and the cheap softbacks that are just rules and no fluff.

They tried this with the 7th edition rules but being GW they got it wrong and split the fluff, pics and rules into three books, then made them into one set that was even more expensive than before.

Personally I am not that fussed about the layout. It always used to be gak in the softback books, but if they are cheap enough you forgive it.

As long as the softcovers are at least $10 US cheaper, I'll be happy.

We used to pay $30 for black and white codexes, $40 for a color codex, I'll buy online for $32 doesn't sound too bad to me.

Colour isn't a good excuse either. I've got equivalent books - even bigger books - that are in full colour and with better production quality that didn't cost as much as current GW Codices.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Colour isn't a good excuse either. I've got equivalent books - even bigger books - that are in full colour and with better production quality that didn't cost as much as current GW Codices.

I didn't say it was a good reason...

A FLGS just spoke with the rep today reporting that the reprints are coming the 2nd week in Dec. and the reprints will be in hardcover.

No ambiguity about that, when asked directly about it, he stated 'hardcover like the first run'.

I'll be excited as I'm not sure i'll be able to grab the End Times III in time from a local store this week.

If they make the digital cheaper as well it is just a win for group buyers and apple ID sharers.

Sounds good! Hail Roundtree!

 Byte wrote:
Sounds good! Hail Roundtree!

Nothing is good. This is Gouge Workshop.
What they'll really do is up the price of hardcovers to $80 and make the softcovers $50.

Denkstrum wrote:
and the reprints will be in hardcover.

The rumor does say softcover reprints start with Shield Of Baal: Leviathan reprints.

Now that I'm thinking about it, this move to soft cover is probably due in large part to GW having to pay more per hardcover book with the smaller print runs reprints would incur.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You like the removal of fluff and the inclusion of huge photos rather than original artwork?

I actually don't mind the photos replacing art for the unit entries. I do wish that when they did that, they had replaced the photo model gallery with an art gallery to make up for it though. And the dataslate format could use some fixes (smaller photo, larger segment of fluff), but merging the army list and bestiary entries into one page I think is an improvement.

Verviedi wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Sounds good! Hail Roundtree!

Nothing is good. This is Gouge Workshop.
What they'll really do is up the price of hardcovers to $80 and make the softcovers $50.

Negative much?

I agree, it's not like GW have ever switched to a cheaper material/method but then raised prices at the same time, now is it?!

Who would have thought this actually happens. A Tomb Kings softcover Army book was spotted in a UK store:


Price is GPB 22.50 - instead of 27.50 - 30.00 for the hardcover books

Source: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?403456-Tomb-Kings-Army-Book-No-Longer-Available&p=7359195#post7359195

Sorry for threadomancy but this is the original rumor

If true (I'm not counting the word "Photo" as proof, Warhams!) then bravo!

This is about right, a round £20 would have been nice, £15 would have been perfect, but taking into account that it's GW then if this is a sign of things to come, then it's a resounding thumbs up from me.

Edit
Pic now showing. So - yay!

Added the pic

Well this is quite interesting. I can't imagine why GW would be producing soft-cover Fantasy army books if the rumors about the future of WHFB are to be trusted.

I must say, I am perplexed!

Softcover makes sense when you print small numbers. Can mean anything

This is true. Well, I guess there's not much to do now but sit back and wait...

Bizarre, do not get the point of releasing softbacks for WFB when next edition is around the corner

 NAVARRO wrote:
Bizarre, do not get the point of releasing softbacks for WFB when next edition is around the corner

Just because a new edition may or may not be coming out, doesn't mean that the majority of your customers are aware of this fact. When they walk into your store, they want to be able to buy what they want for their army and you want to be able to sell it to them. Simple as that. As mentioned, doing small print runs of softcovers is cheaper than hardbacks.

 the_Armyman wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Bizarre, do not get the point of releasing softbacks for WFB when next edition is around the corner

Just because a new edition may or may not be coming out, doesn't mean that the majority of your customers are aware of this fact. When they walk into your store, they want to be able to buy what they want for their army and you want to be able to sell it to them. Simple as that. As mentioned, doing small print runs of softcovers is cheaper than hardbacks.

Plus this style is waaaaaaay better at promoting customer loyalty. Gotta break 'em down and then build them back up with boxes of SM tactical squads

(In fact, maybe the rumored Fantasy Space Marines really are just Space Marines mounted on round bases.)

 the_Armyman wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Bizarre, do not get the point of releasing softbacks for WFB when next edition is around the corner

Just because a new edition may or may not be coming out, doesn't mean that the majority of your customers are aware of this fact. When they walk into your store, they want to be able to buy what they want for their army and you want to be able to sell it to them. Simple as that. As mentioned, doing small print runs of softcovers is cheaper than hardbacks.

But if they want to milk the uninformed customer why not sell the hardbacks that they already have? its not like they are selling like crazy and are out of stock and need a quick run of softbacks, right?

Honestly I like my hardcovers but I totally understand the shift & how it's beneficial. I just have the extra disposable income at this point in my life to spring for HC if I want it so I hope they do a HC release provided it's not the "limited edition, extra $100 please!' crap tht nets you a paper certificate & some art prints.

Plus just because 9th is around the corner doesn't mean they'll be getting rid of TK immediately. They will likely keep all old books playable until they print new ones (combined)

 NAVARRO wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Bizarre, do not get the point of releasing softbacks for WFB when next edition is around the corner

Just because a new edition may or may not be coming out, doesn't mean that the majority of your customers are aware of this fact. When they walk into your store, they want to be able to buy what they want for their army and you want to be able to sell it to them. Simple as that. As mentioned, doing small print runs of softcovers is cheaper than hardbacks.

But if they want to milk the uninformed customer why not sell the hardbacks that they already have? its not like they are selling like crazy and are out of stock and need a quick run of softbacks, right?

How do you know that they still have Tomb Kings hard covers? If they know a new edition is coming, then they surely have been very careful about printing unnecessary runs of rulebooks for Fantasy. Here's how I see it:

1. Out of stock on hard covers.
2. Print another small run, but soft covers.
3. Soft covers are cheaper to produce, cheaper to ship.
4. Lower the retail price just enough so that you're still making the same margin, but your production costs and shipping costs are now lower.
5. Profit! Literally.

Someone with a good understanding of spanish can probably explain better what is going on. But as far as I understand it, Eldar softcover codex books were spotted. Also they are sold in different languages



Source: http://descansodelescriba.blogspot.de/2015/01/codex-y-libros-de-ejercito-en-tapas.html

Regarding the price, different countries in Europe have different EUR prices. With 33 in Spain this looks to be similiar priced as the Vampire Counts SC re-releases

Nice catch !!

It seems like it's only a matter time then before we see the others follow