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Nobody can force you to put models on a base they didn't come with. Stick it too them!

I am not about to rebase hundreds of models.

 PhillyT wrote:
Nobody can force you to put models on a base they didn't come with. Stick it too them!

I am not about to rebase hundreds of models.

Same for me.
However, with the introduction of larger bases one can distinguish between older and newer models and units.

 PhillyT wrote:
Nobody can force you to put models on a base they didn't come with. Stick it too them!

I am not about to rebase hundreds of models.

You can only "stick it" to them this way, if they'd ask/demand/suggest/propose/recommend/advocate that you re-base something. So far, GW hasn't done that. The only thing you're rebelling again is internet scare-mongering,

Just heard about this myself. Wow... just wow. I remember when Terminators went from 25mm to 40MM, and for a while I used my old metal Deathwing on 25mm bases until I got too many negative comments about it. So we'll be seeing some Space Marines on 32mm bases, and some on 25mm bases for a while yet.

Of course, GW will be supplying the hobby enthusiast with a pack of 32mm bases... like maybe 10 of them for $24.99? At least until the 3rd party guys start making 32mm bases.

It just seems silly and makes no sense. Models falling over? This has been an issue for a long time, and is easily solved by just adding some weight to the base (fishing weights, a penny, metal washer, whatever). Make the base bigger? Just makes the table even more cluttered, and less models will be able to fit in a specific area (say, wreckage, or on the parapet of a Redoubt, etc). I'm just befuddled by this change.

 Tamwulf wrote:

Of course, GW will be supplying the hobby enthusiast with a pack of 32mm bases... like maybe 10 of them for $24.99? At least until the 3rd party guys start making 32mm bases.

$4.95 actually.

 Crimson wrote:

 Tamwulf wrote:

Of course, GW will be supplying the hobby enthusiast with a pack of 32mm bases... like maybe 10 of them for $24.99? At least until the 3rd party guys start making 32mm bases.

$4.95 actually.

But they are direct order only, but I am sure some LFGS will carry them.

 Crimson wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:

And given the FACT that the only kit so far to include 32mm also includes 25mm (deathstorm) it would make ZERO sense for all models to be 32mm, even if you ignore the stupidity of gradual changes (because having 2 different marine kits of different sized bases really is dumb.)

Have you actually read this thread? Deathstorm is not the only kit, new BA tacticals are on 32mm as well.

Obviusly I have not went through the entire thread that consists mostly of "the skies are falling" posts, rather than useful information.

As for the BA tactical-do we have any conformation for this?

EDIT: went back through and saw the pics...it WOULD seem so, unless that is some crafty positioning from whoever built the models.
Still, "all marines" and "all 25mm models" is very much not the same thing.
And I STILL find it odd. once the kit actually comes up we'll know for sure, but I suspect the bases were used for photoshooting reasons only.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Bollocks.
Corvus Belli published an entire listing of models to be adjusted in base sizes, yet did not require that you use the actual base they posted for ITS...

And to prevent any kind of "drama" there, they came up with the ridiculous silhouette system.

My mistake then. In my local group we understood it that they had to be on the new base size.

 Kosake wrote:

Until someone figures out that just cutting 32mm circles of plasticard is cheaper than buying new bases...

At any tournament I've been to were they expect units to be on the proper current base, this was the solution they suggested to people who took issue with rebaseing their models actually.

Buying GW's brand of finebase wasn't required.

 BoomWolf wrote:

Still, "all marines" and "all 25mm models" is very much not the same thing.

I agree. Anyone proclaiming "all 25mm models" is willfully ignoring the Deathstorm Genestealers are on 25mm bases.

 adamsouza wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:

Still, "all marines" and "all 25mm models" is very much not the same thing.

I agree. Anyone proclaiming "all 25mm models" is willfully ignoring the Deathstorm Genestealers are on 25mm bases.

Have you seen the average 40k table? All marines might as well mean all 25mm modles for some people! lol

But I agree with the sentiment. I am weary that everything will make a switch to 32mm modles. Why would the fex and warriors get new bases, yet keep the genestealers on 25mm bases if this was a sweeping change?


And despite the fact people keep misunderstanding what I'm saying. When I talk about using 32mm bases in a tournament, I'm only talking about once that unit is actually packaged with a new sized base. Not that a TO wakes up tomorrow and starts demanding all the 25mm bases are gone from someone's army that day. lol

Tournament requirements are up to the individual TO's. There is no accouting for far some of them might go.

Still, as I've pointed out earlier in this thread, the change to 32mm from 25mm is no where near as significant as the change from 25mm to 40mm for terminators was. The situations where some advantage is gained from playing 25mm over 32mm are mostly hypothetical at best and at most involve 1 more marine being able to shoot or assault in groups of 6+ where everything is line up just right. No sane person should worry about it.

Demanding rebasing is not reasonable or practical, and I would abstain from any tournament requiring it for this 25 to 32mm transition.

 adamsouza wrote:
Tournament requirements are up to the individual TO's. There is no accouting for far some of them might go.

Still, as I've pointed out earlier in this thread, the change to 32mm from 25mm is no where near as significant as the change from 25mm to 40mm for terminators was. The situations where some advantage is gained from playing 25mm over 32mm are mostly hypothetical at best and at most involve 1 more marine being able to shoot or assault in groups of 6+ where everything is line up just right. No sane person should worry about it.

Demanding rebasing is not reasonable or practical, and I would abstain from any tournament requiring it for this 25 to 32mm transition.

I said myself "Check with your TO" a few pages back, so I don't disagree with that.

But don't put down TO's who make that call. In my area this became a standard practice to ask for, due to issues we started having with people using old metal terminators to cheese the rules. Like we had players going out of their way to get them just because of some stupid rules shenanigans they figured out they could do with them. Most people just became so annoyed by these players we ASKED for our TO to do this.

Every area has it's own list of rulings and practices that it developed for it's own area, to make 40k work as a tournament game.

If your from a area/meta were this didn't become a issue, then good for you. But understand why following what units will be getting new bases, and what size thows bases are matters to me and other people who may have a similar situation going on.


I am personally just going to order MDF bases from litko once the dust starts to settle about what goes on what sized base. I will personaly be rebaseing my units as these changes are made. I feel "oh. The sucks. But oh well, not the 1st time I've had to rebase models" on the situation.

 Tamwulf wrote:
Of course, GW will be supplying the hobby enthusiast with a pack of 32mm bases... like maybe 10 of them for $24.99? At least until the 3rd party guys start making 32mm bases.

Just buy the round-lipped 35mm bases that are already out there.

I haven't seen this sort of epic potential since epic:40,000 was released and became an instant resounding success.
Changing bases helped the game right? Its not like it quickly died after that, right?

edit: also, there's no way that the base casters could change their base sizes from 25mm to 32mm to keep up, is there? 32mm is impossible to cast 3rd party bases for, right?

 Breotan wrote:

 Tamwulf wrote:
Of course, GW will be supplying the hobby enthusiast with a pack of 32mm bases... like maybe 10 of them for $24.99? At least until the 3rd party guys start making 32mm bases.

Just buy the round-lipped 35mm bases that are already out there.

32mm bases cut from plywood are like 100 for $25 from litko. Get 3mm thick if you plan on replaceing the whole base, or .8mm thick and just glue the old base ontop of the new base. At $0.25 per base, it's hard to beat that.

There are many cheap solutions for this, but all in all this is a gigantic dick move by GW. Some decisions they make outright smack of petulant "ef you for not letting me have my way" attitude. Reminds me of a certain president of a certain country I know.

 Lockark wrote:

I am personally just going to order MDF bases from litko once the dust starts to settle about what goes on what sized base. I will personaly be rebaseing my units as these changes are made. I feel "oh. The sucks. But oh well, not the 1st time I've had to rebase models" on the situation.

There's no way I can rebase my plastic mini's glued to plastic bases with poly cement. The ones on resin bases I can at least snap off, but the plastic ones are going to involve complex surgery and look a total mess.

Herzlos wrote:

 Lockark wrote:

I am personally just going to order MDF bases from litko once the dust starts to settle about what goes on what sized base. I will personaly be rebaseing my units as these changes are made. I feel "oh. The sucks. But oh well, not the 1st time I've had to rebase models" on the situation.

There's no way I can rebase my plastic mini's glued to plastic bases with poly cement. The ones on resin bases I can at least snap off, but the plastic ones are going to involve complex surgery and look a total mess.

I've rebased thows mini's before. You got two options.

Using a hobby knight cut under the sand removing and popping it off the base. Then useing a 2nd hobby knife that is new/sharp slowly keep making small cuts until you remove the miniature. I am doing this right now for some miniatures I fully painted but now want on magnetic bases for WHFB. Have a cutting mat and go very slowly, so you don't scrap paint off the mini. It's not easy but it can be done. I can post before and after pics of me doing this if it helps.

The 2nd option I mentioned already. Go to litko and get 100 32mm bases cut out of .8mm thick plywood Glue the original base on top of the new thin base and then add new sand and flock to blend the two bases together. I am going to do this option for my marines when this change takes place.

@Lockark, herzloz -- it's definitely not that much work for plastics. Snip around the feet with diagonal cutters, and clean the actual feet the same way you'd deal with a sprue (cut close, file/cut what's left).

But, unless you like the 32mm look, why would you?

Ehhh, If required, I will just sculpt a scenic base and recast it myself.

Well, at least they're $0.50/model for a base...hmm, maybe my expectations of GW have gotten so screwy that I feel like that's a reasonable price.

Anyway, I certainly saw this going in a really bad direction (like 10 for $10 or worse, as others have mentioned), so I guess that's good news. Why it's Direct-only...

Either way, I'm a DE player so I think the skinny little elves will hopefully be safe on their bases. As for my Ork Nobz....well...

 Accolade wrote:
Well, at least they're $0.50/model for a base...hmm, maybe my expectations of GW have gotten so screwy that I feel like that's a reasonable price.

Anyway, I certainly saw this going in a really bad direction (like 10 for $10 or worse, as others have mentioned), so I guess that's good news. Why it's Direct-only...

Either way, I'm a DE player so I think the skinny little elves will hopefully be safe on their bases. As for my Ork Nobz....well...

I just bought a load 0f 30mm from Miniatures Market.
The old Confrontation 30mm bases are 8x for $1

I don't think most will notice the 2mm difference.

Lol, you cant even order the bases yet.

I am not rebasing anything. Period. Any tournament that requires the new basing size is not getting my business. I loath large bases - they cause all kinds of problems in a terrain rich table. Now putting terminators on 32mm would actually be about right. Still wouldn't rebase though. I was weak last time around and put a bunch of my termies on 40mm washers, but I'm not doing it this time.

I bumped all my crisis suits from 40mm to 50mm bases when I got a hold of some of the new Cent bases. They fit much better on them.

I will likely grab a few packs of these bases and rebase my nobz and lootas onto them. Stormboyz maybe too. My biggest concern will be how well the new bases will fit into my existing foam trays. But the larger bases will really help keep stormboyz from tipping over.

My marines will likely stay on 25mm though.

I am surprisingly okay with this. I have 4.5k points of CSM who now are on too small bases, but this combined with upscaled CSMs will make new units I add look significantly better.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I bumped all my crisis suits from 40mm to 50mm bases when I got a hold of some of the new Cent bases. They fit much better on them.

I will likely grab a few packs of these bases and rebase my nobz and lootas onto them. Stormboyz maybe too. My biggest concern will be how well the new bases will fit into my existing foam trays. But the larger bases will really help keep stormboyz from tipping over.

My marines will likely stay on 25mm though.

Crisis suits?
They fit just fine in the 40mm bases.

Honestly, its the one thing I wish them not to shift to a bigger base, the 40mm base fits perfectly into my "suits and tetras" box

So is there an official announcement re: basegate yet?

 Ashiraya wrote:
I am surprisingly okay with this.

Yeah, me too. I will rebase my marines, it will be a hassle, but they will look better, so I'm okay with this.

Rumour has it that next year they are planning to swap the 32 mm bases for 36 mm bases.

Just sayin'.