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I as a CSM player honestly would rather have some slightly bigger bases as an option. I definitely don't want to redo my rank and file, but since I am such a procrastinator when it comes to basing, it won't be TOO big of a deal to rebase things that I've made that really hang over the edges of their bases. I have a load of possessed that I kitbashed that are far too big for their tiny little bases, and I'd like my raptors and icon bearers to be on a larger, more stable base as well. If assault was more common, the slight change in base size might matter, but as it stands, I can't really see it affecting the rules. That said, I've never seen anyone argue that a model was on a base that was too big. Just make sure your opponent is measuring those charges correctly.

I just emailed Forge World to ask them if they're going to switch to 32mm and when. Hope they reply!

 manrogue wrote:
Also, LoW have a good record for rumours-
Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (12 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE

That not including the fact there are a couple of trues that Pretre hasn't updated yet.

They are up to about 18 now.

 Davylove21 wrote:
I just emailed Forge World to ask them if they're going to switch to 32mm and when. Hope they reply!

I was going to wait until GW actually released the new bases before making that same email. But I would love to hear what they say if your willing to share!

Wonderwolf wrote:

 PhillyT wrote:
Nobody can force you to put models on a base they didn't come with. Stick it too them!

I am not about to rebase hundreds of models.

You can only "stick it" to them this way, if they'd ask/demand/suggest/propose/recommend/advocate that you re-base something. So far, GW hasn't done that. The only thing you're rebelling again is internet scare-mongering,

I wasn't implying they were in this case. I am referring to rebasing in all cases from all directions.

I have 10 flash gitz on 25mm bases. These were made back in 2008. When the new models came out, an argument could be made that I needed to rebase them, but I didn't and won't. Other models have actually seen a change in official base (broadsides I think?) but you would still really have to be a jerk to force anyone to rip the models off and rebase them.

The only time I ever rebased was when I pulled my Ungor off their 25mm square bases and put them onto 20mm square bases. I really had no choice since I ended up getting the new ungor for the command bitz and nice new models. I ended up with 60 painted ungor and 40 unpainted ungor with different base sizes. It was simpler to just rip off the old ungor. I used the bases for some unbased gors I had so it wasn't a total loss.

GW answer from Faeit: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/12/games-workshop-answers-rebasing-issue.html

The Response from Games Workshop
Thanks for the email.
The new 32mm bases were a design choice made by the sculptors, to make the Death Company look more imposing. There is no specific base that you have to use for the Death Company, so should you wish to mount them on the smaller 20mm bases this is fine, but if you would rather have the slightly larger 32mm base, this is also fine.

I hope that this helps, but if you need anything further, please let me know.
Kind regards

gradam01 wrote:
GW answer from Faeit: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/12/games-workshop-answers-rebasing-issue.html

The Response from Games Workshop
Thanks for the email.
The new 32mm bases were a design choice made by the sculptors, to make the Death Company look more imposing. There is no specific base that you have to use for the Death Company, so should you wish to mount them on the smaller 20mm bases this is fine, but if you would rather have the slightly larger 32mm base, this is also fine.

I hope that this helps, but if you need anything further, please let me know.
Kind regards

Hillarious, because I don't think there's currently a single space marine unit (possibly in all of 40k?) that comes on 20mm bases.

gradam01 wrote:
GW answer from Faeit: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/12/games-workshop-answers-rebasing-issue.html

The Response from Games Workshop
Thanks for the email.
The new 32mm bases were a design choice made by the sculptors, to make the Death Company look more imposing. There is no specific base that you have to use for the Death Company, so should you wish to mount them on the smaller 20mm bases this is fine, but if you would rather have the slightly larger 32mm base, this is also fine.

I hope that this helps, but if you need anything further, please let me know.
Kind regards

Wow, I just can't buy that. I cannot see GW management agreeing to a brand-new base size just because of a "design choice" by someone in the studio. Plastic mold costs have certainly come down over the years, but that is a nontrivial cost for just a "design choice".

That might actually be the real reason, but it would certainly be out of character for what we seen from GW over the past few years. I would find it far more believable if there was some business reason for the change. Blocking out third party manufacturers, trying to assert IP rights, trying to force players to upgrade their bases, or something like that…. Just don't see it as a "design choice" by the studio.

Valete,

JohnS

The design choice comment obviously doesn't apply specifically to the DC, those aren't new kits. Broadly though, as a decision they've decided to apply to marines from now on? Sure.

The 'evil scheme' theories start to lose a little steam when GW are specifically saying that you don't even have I use the new base size with the NEW kits, let alone the old stuff.

Of course you don't have to use the new base sizes.. I seriously don't understand why people are all worried. It is amusing that it's just a "design choice"..

So.. they designed to make two units completely different than the rest? It's not evil empire.. its simply incompetence yet again.

Methinks there'll be a lot of people here with egg on their faces when 8th ed comes along...

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Methinks there'll be a lot of people here with egg on their faces when 8th ed comes along...

Please, that's only 7 months away. Move along, move along.

I think the 32mm bases are a welcome choice to represent a normal sized 10 foot tall space marine, so long as 6 foot tall Catachans & Cadians stay on 25mm bases.

Space Marines aren't 10 foot. Eight feet is about the average.

Still, I agree they will look better on the 32mm bases.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Space Marines aren't 10 foot. Eight feet is about the average.

Still, I agree they will look better on the 32mm bases.

Yep, I agree too. But it's kind of a really late game play to change. We aren't talking about some young upstart and change made in the second edition. Seven editions later base size change?

Like 40k couldn't get more casual.

 Eilif wrote:

gradam01 wrote:
GW answer from Faeit: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/12/games-workshop-answers-rebasing-issue.html

The Response from Games Workshop
Thanks for the email.
The new 32mm bases were a design choice made by the sculptors, to make the Death Company look more imposing. There is no specific base that you have to use for the Death Company, so should you wish to mount them on the smaller 20mm bases this is fine, but if you would rather have the slightly larger 32mm base, this is also fine.

I hope that this helps, but if you need anything further, please let me know.
Kind regards

Hillarious, because I don't think there's currently a single space marine unit (possibly in all of 40k?) that comes on 20mm bases.

Yeah that was my first thought. My second was that the kit is only just up for pre-order, and the GW have been notoriously tight lipped about everything. So I suspect it's either a fake (though I don't know why) or a new staff member who may not be that accurate.

I might be a little out of touch and I have seen the other thread, but are pictures of this new tac squad (the front of White Dwarf) displaying tactical marines on HQ bases ?

I am not up to speed on the sizing in MM which might sound dumb as I am an avid hobbyist but I would call those the War-boss (ork player) bases ? or Flash Gitz...

If that is true, why would GW do that ? does this not sort of interfere with close combat mechanics.....

War bosses use a 40 mm base. The tac squad is on a new 32mm base.

It's funny because I can't see how they didn't see this sort of change upsetting people. Almost everyone that plays this game is OCD on some level. Whether it be an obsession with following game rules or aesthetic consistency in base size. This is a change that very few people will be able to enjoy.

Obviously it's going to upset people, but what are they supposed to do? If the design studio wants to represent power armor marines on 32mm bases from here on out, how would they go about it without upsetting people? In principle, I like this change. It's cool that marines can be represented on a slightly bigger base. This change doesn't exist in a vacuum though. Whats the design studio to do? Not make the change at all?

Were they not supposed to move Terminators onto 40mm bases?

With all the different base sizes in the new box set (are those 'nid warriors on new size bases as well?) I'm assuming it's a move to make it harder for 3rd party resin base manufacturers to create and maintain enough stock to base everything GW puts out. Whether it's a ploy by GW to release their own line of resin bases or just to sell more basing kits, only time will tell.

oh I see now, so what we are discussing here is a brand new proprietary 32mm bases for GW units only. No other company uses 32mm ?

Are they expecting me to change my entire Ork force to those ?

I am interested in seeing somebody do a physical example of how those bases differ in close combat vs. the old style units.

The round-edged bases used by many other companies are 30mm, 40mm, and 50mm (plus 120mm for the huge stuff). I don't think it's too large of a leap to suppose that's why GW didn't choose 30mm.

 nettraper wrote:
oh I see now, so what we are discussing here is a brand new proprietary 32mm bases for GW units only. No other company uses 32mm ?

Are they expecting me to change my entire Ork force to those ?

I am interested in seeing somebody do a physical example of how those bases differ in close combat vs. the old style units.

For now, they haven't changed orks. This seems to just be a change for space marines for now.

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
The round-edged bases used by many other companies are 30mm, 40mm, and 50mm (plus 120mm for the huge stuff). I don't think it's too large of a leap to suppose that's why GW didn't choose 30mm.

Actually, I think they picked 32mm because it's almost in the middle between 25mm and 40mm.

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
The round-edged bases used by many other companies are 30mm, 40mm, and 50mm (plus 120mm for the huge stuff). I don't think it's too large of a leap to suppose that's why GW didn't choose 30mm.

I say this again: they're 32mm because that is the size of GW's small flying base; this is not a new base size.

 tydrace wrote:

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
The round-edged bases used by many other companies are 30mm, 40mm, and 50mm (plus 120mm for the huge stuff). I don't think it's too large of a leap to suppose that's why GW didn't choose 30mm.

Actually, I think they picked 32mm because it's almost in the middle between 25mm and 40mm.

This. They can't do a 32.5 mm base (well, they could), so they round down to 32 for symmetry.

 Eilif wrote:

gradam01 wrote:
GW answer from Faeit: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/12/games-workshop-answers-rebasing-issue.html

The Response from Games Workshop
Thanks for the email.
The new 32mm bases were a design choice made by the sculptors, to make the Death Company look more imposing. There is no specific base that you have to use for the Death Company, so should you wish to mount them on the smaller 20mm bases this is fine, but if you would rather have the slightly larger 32mm base, this is also fine.

I hope that this helps, but if you need anything further, please let me know.
Kind regards

Hillarious, because I don't think there's currently a single space marine unit (possibly in all of 40k?) that comes on 20mm bases.

I`d say trolling. It wasnt for the death company as shown on the white dwarf and the new tactical squad

So it's handy I just sold all my Marine themed forces over the last couple of months... I'll take that as a bonus.

On saying that, I will be rebasing my Stormboyz to the 32mm, regardless of it Orks are effected by it.. anything that saves them from falling over is a boon in my book.