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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 04:02:20
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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I am looking at the Stormlord and i can see that adding a couple of Primaris Pyskers for Prescience and numerous other abilities in that table makes sense, but I am wondering if there is anyway to get that BS above 3?
Thanks,
Colgall
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 04:03:13
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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No .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0020/12/03 04:07:09
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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That's what I figured from my looking, but the second opinion makes it hurt worse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 15:55:17
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Dakka Veteran
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Prescience + scatter reduce through INQ Servo skulls, that's likely the best you can get.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 16:20:19
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Battleship Captain
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The stormlord doesn't have blast weapons - it packs a vulcan mega-bolter (with the all power to weapons!) ability to fire it twice.
It's the one guard superheavy where you really feel the pain of their lower ballistic skill. And yes, prescience is a good idea. For a pittance of points, you're increasing by 50% the firepower of a gun probably worth in the 200-250 point range by itself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 18:29:08
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Prescience is all you need. A 75% hit ratio is pretty darn good.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 20:43:27
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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I can see 2 easy options:
1) Prescience on a Primaris Psyker (50-75)
1.5) ML2 just to make sure you have enough dice for decent chance on a low roll in the Psychic Phase
2) Using a Command Squad? Kurov's Aquila for preferred enemy - bonus is now the Preferred Enemy bubble is ALOT bigger because of the footprint of the Stormlord
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 22:23:51
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Dakka Veteran
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CronikCRS wrote:I can see 2 easy options:
1) Prescience on a Primaris Psyker (50-75)
1.5) ML2 just to make sure you have enough dice for decent chance on a low roll in the Psychic Phase
2) Using a Command Squad? Kurov's Aquila for preferred enemy - bonus is now the Preferred Enemy bubble is ALOT bigger because of the footprint of the Stormlord
Prescience is 3 times better than Kruov's Aquila (re-rolls all fails instead of only 1s).
Inquisition have many slot for cheap warp charge (25 for HQ, 18 for each elite warp charge).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 22:25:02
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Already twin linked???? Truely no way to buff up the BS. only too wounds with PE.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/12/05 22:25:50
Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 23:00:21
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Nah, the Vulkan Mega Bolter isn't twin-linked.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 23:06:51
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Well il be damned. double set weapons almost always usually twinlinked.
So yeah prescience all the things!
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 23:09:18
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Nope, just a lot of shots.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 23:20:16
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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You'd think people would be happy with being able to easily twin-link it or give it preferred enemy.
That isn't enough!?! Wanting to up its Bs as well!?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 23:26:40
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Twin-linking is far superior to a BS increase anyway.
The difference between BS3 and BS3 twin-linked is better than the difference between BS3 and BS4. 50% better actually.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 23:47:59
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Preacher of the Emperor
Hanford, CA, AKA The Eye of Terror
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Zsolt wrote: CronikCRS wrote:I can see 2 easy options:
1) Prescience on a Primaris Psyker (50-75)
1.5) ML2 just to make sure you have enough dice for decent chance on a low roll in the Psychic Phase
2) Using a Command Squad? Kurov's Aquila for preferred enemy - bonus is now the Preferred Enemy bubble is ALOT bigger because of the footprint of the Stormlord
Prescience is 3 times better than Kruov's Aquila (re-rolls all fails instead of only 1s).
Inquisition have many slot for cheap warp charge (25 for HQ, 18 for each elite warp charge).
Both I would say! Run a big blob of conscripts with priest to bubble wrap the stormlord + ML 2 primaris for prescience goodies ( and maybe an Inq too to make sure it goes off) and a command squad with kurovs and fill the stormlord up with heavy weapons teams and Las sponsons = win (until they blow it up)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/06 00:07:46
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I have heard that FW's Horus Heresy Vol. 4 has a tank commander that can be added to any armored vehicle in the Solar Auxilia list, including Lords of War. He gives the vehicle's weapons BS4. But that's a lot of hoops to jump through just to get a few extra hits. A Divination psyker would be far easier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/06 00:30:36
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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By the time you're tossing thirty shots down the field does it really matter?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 17:17:05
Subject: Imperial Guard Stormlord ballistic skill, any way to improve this?
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Dakka Veteran
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There's a really big difference between 50% and 75% hit rate (quite close to 25% btw).
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