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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 11:09:30
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Paradigm wrote:Actually, that's a good point. Of the 3 overcrowded FOC slots we have, this detachment as a second detachment goes a long way towards fixing two of them. Take your dual Priests in the BSF detachment, along with the Elites that need the I boost ( SG, DC), then throw your HQ beatstick (Captain, TDA, Valour's Edge, SS?) And Elites that don't need boosted Init (Termies, Dreads for the most part, Sternguard) in here.
In other news, I think this gives us a pretty good look at what's in store for the Deathwing when the new DA codex rolls around...
Same goes for Ravenwing, though it would probably be FA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 11:08:34
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
Netherlands
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Paradigm wrote:Actually, that's a good point. Of the 3 overcrowded FOC slots we have, this detachment as a second detachment goes a long way towards fixing two of them. Take your dual Priests in the BSF detachment, along with the Elites that need the I boost ( SG, DC), then throw your HQ beatstick (Captain, TDA, Valour's Edge, SS?) And Elites that don't need boosted Init (Termies, Dreads for the most part, Sternguard) in here.
In other news, I think this gives us a pretty good look at what's in store for the Deathwing when the new DA codex rolls around...
Bad news! The book will probably have the same rules as the others, so that means a different list of Relics.
But good news is that Corbulo's buff works on BA's within range, even if they are from another Detachment/Formation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 11:19:42
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Kangodo wrote: Paradigm wrote:Actually, that's a good point. Of the 3 overcrowded FOC slots we have, this detachment as a second detachment goes a long way towards fixing two of them. Take your dual Priests in the BSF detachment, along with the Elites that need the I boost ( SG, DC), then throw your HQ beatstick (Captain, TDA, Valour's Edge, SS?) And Elites that don't need boosted Init (Termies, Dreads for the most part, Sternguard) in here.
In other news, I think this gives us a pretty good look at what's in store for the Deathwing when the new DA codex rolls around...
Bad news! The book will probably have the same rules as the others, so that means a different list of Relics.
But good news is that Corbulo's buff works on BA's within range, even if they are from another Detachment/Formation 
Possibly, although as this is a campaign book rather than a supplement it may have the option to use codex Relics. If not, then the pattern still indicates we'll get a Special Sword, Good Gun and Horrifying Hat of some kind. Either way, I think there will be something good to use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 11:20:29
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Tamwulf wrote:
Oh, and another thing about Death Company Tycho that I also noticed with Lemartes- they are listed as Independent Characters, but they can only join the Death Company.  Does GW even understand it's own rules? Was the idea of a upgrade character in a unit too abhorrent to them, so they had to give these characters Independent status, but then say they can only ever join a DC unit?
Identical to Snikrot and commandoes. Makes perfect sence actually. Got only Lemartes and no DC? Field him alone - noone's prohibiting you from it. But they're intended to work together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 11:33:33
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
Netherlands
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I prefer the Zhandrekh and Obyron-combo!
You can take Obyron, but if you take him as a Zhandrekh-upgrade he doesn't take up a slot.
They should have done that to Lemartes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 13:39:08
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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th3maninblak wrote:Everyone keeps talking about running 10 man squads of death company. I think thats wayyy overkill. An 8 man squad with 2 power swords and a fist have been more than enough for me. Took out the spawn of cryptix, 10 genesealers, 2 carnifexs and a warrior last game.
I think this is Sooo overkill....I take two less.
"cough, cough"
I'm kidding. Still, that looks like a good loadout. I'm not sure power swords are that necessary with DC, seeing as how many attacks they get...and they can get even more with the librarian power...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 17:44:21
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Lieutenant Colonel
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the formation I link is from sheild of baal,
my source tells me its not the only thing in there, but cannot confirm exactly what else is there yet, from GW " 18 new datasheets for the Blood Angels 1st and 2nd Companies, Flesh Tearers, and the Necrons of the Mephrit Dynasty. That’s the equivalent of four Codex Supplements in one book!
- new warlord traits, relics and force organisation charts for all four armies"
so that might be the only BA specific detachment, unless perhaps there is one for 2nd company as well?
sounds like necrons, SOB and flesh tearers get something
will post more when I have it tho, Automatically Appended Next Post: got some more pics,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 18:29:18
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
Netherlands
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 19:29:28
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Lieutenant Colonel
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yeah sorry I wasnt very clear and I got them mixed up, only the first one I linked was from baal
2nd was from the boxed set
these are from WD I think

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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 20:03:13
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Huge Hierodule
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I can't make it out - what's the composition of the angels wrath intervention force?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 20:42:08
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Yeah im really interested in seeing what those formations are but i cant make them out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 23:11:03
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Been Around the Block
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Quick question about Detachments, Formations and Special Rules/Command Benefits:
if I build the Battle Company on pages 98-99 I get all three special rules: Angel's Virtue, Objective Secured and Red Thirst?
If I build the Baal Strike Force on page 110 I get Angel's Virtue and Red Thirst..... but no Objective Secured?
If I build an army using the Combined Arms Detachment or Allied Detachment on page 122 of the BRB I will only get Ideal Mission Commander/Objective Secured and Objective Secured, respectively.... but no Red Thirst?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 23:20:25
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Preacher of the Emperor
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pejota wrote:Quick question about Detachments, Formations and Special Rules/Command Benefits:
if I build the Battle Company on pages 98-99 I get all three special rules: Angel's Virtue, Objective Secured and Red Thirst?
If I build the Baal Strike Force on page 110 I get Angel's Virtue and Red Thirst..... but no Objective Secured?
If I build an army using the Combined Arms Detachment or Allied Detachment on page 122 of the BRB I will only get Ideal Mission Commander/Objective Secured and Objective Secured, respectively.... but no Red Thirst?
Correct.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 01:55:15
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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I can just barely make some of them out:
Flesh Tearers Blood Rain Strike Force
Formation:
1 Death Company Squad
1 Vanguard Veteran Squad
1 Assault Squad
1 Furioso Dreadnought
1 Stormraven Gunship
Restrictions
All units in this formation must either be equipped with jump packs or begin the game embarked on the formation's Stormraven gunship
Special Rules
Crusader
Crimson Thunderbolt: On the turn in which a unit from this Formation disembarks from this Formation's Stormraven Gunship, it can re-roll failed charge rolls and has the Rage special rule
Poised to Strike: All units in this formation equipped with jump packs must be placed in Deep Strike Reserve. When making Reserve Rolls, make a single roll for the entire Formation, which you can choose to re-roll. If successful, all units in this Formation arrive from Reserve.
Rain of Blood: When a unit from this Formation arrives by Deep Strike, it gains the Counter-attack and Fearless special rules until the start of your next turn.
Trying to read the rest...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Angel's Wrath Intervention Force
Formation
1 Vanguard Veteran Squad
2 Assault Squad
Restrictions:
All units in this formation must be equipped with jump packs.
Special rules
Guided Drop: This formation must be placed in Deep Strike Reserve. Make a single Reserve roll for the entire formation. If successful, all units arrive from the formation. The formation's units of Vanguard Veteran must be placed first, and units of Assault Marines do not scatter so long as the first model is placed within 6" of the Vanguard Veteran unit.
Meteoric Impact: Immediately after deploying, any enemy unit within 6" of any unit gtom this formation suffers a Strength 4 AP - hit for each of their models which is within 6" of a model from this formation. In addition, these enemy units must move as if they are in difficult terrain until the end of their next phase.
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Angel's Fury Spearhead Force
Formation
3 Tactical Squads
3 Stormraven Gunships
Restrictions
Each Tactical squad must include 10 models. The Sergeant of each tactical squad in this formation must take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This formations tactical squads cannot take Dedicated Transports, and must begin the game embarked on the Stormraven Gunships in this Formation.
Special Rules
Can't read the first Special Rule
The second is Objective Secured for the Tacticals
The last one is for the entire formation to arrive at once and then something about turn one, but can't see exactly what.
Can't make out the necron one at all :(
EDIT: Corrected Angel's Wrath to 2 Assault units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 02:26:14
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Why as so many people dismissing VV? The entire unit can take Hand Flamers and/or Inferno Pistols. Not to mention giving the Sgt a Relic Blade. 3 S7 attacks at I5, anyone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 02:53:38
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I got this from B & C:
Angels fury spearhead force
Formation:
3 tactical squads
3 stormraven gunships
Restrictions:
Each stormraven gunship must include10 models. The sergeant of each tactical squad in this formation must take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This formations tactical squads cannot take dedicated transports and must begin the game embarked in the stormraven gunships from this formation.
Special rules:
Augur triangulation:
If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike reserve within 12" of at least two models from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.
Objective secured:
All troops units from this formation have the objective secured special rule (see page blah blah)
Spearhead strike force:
When making reserve rolls make a single roll for the entire formation, which you can choose to re-reoll. If successful, all units arrive from the formation.You can make a reserve roll for this formation from the start of turn 1.
If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 02:59:16
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
UK
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benjak wrote:If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I
i Think the 1200pts of Tactical squads, that won't arrive until T2, mean this will be fun but not ground breaking?
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ." Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 03:08:31
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Razerous wrote:benjak wrote:If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I
i Think the 1200pts of Tactical squads, that won't arrive until T2, mean this will be fun but not ground breaking?
Actually, that formation rolls for reserves on turn 1, and gets a re-roll to boot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 03:12:12
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Razerous wrote:benjak wrote:If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I
i Think the 1200pts of Tactical squads, that won't arrive until T2, mean this will be fun but not ground breaking?
Spearhead strike force:
When making reserve rolls make a single roll for the entire formation, which you can choose to re-reoll. If successful, all units arrive from the formation.
You can make a reserve roll for this formation from the start of turn 1.
You can have all 3 Stormravens enter turn 1
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 03:13:54
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Okay. Still, points heavy but.. that changes things!
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ." Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 03:58:31
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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These formation are exciting.
Makes me wonder what they have in store for DA and CSM.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 04:02:32
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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UnadoptedPuppy wrote:These formation are exciting.
Makes me wonder what they have in store for DA and CSM.
Hopefully complete overhauls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 05:14:34
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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The ravens seem nice, and I'll probably buy a third so I can do it, but...
I know I'm going to almost auto-lose some games just because I fail the rerollable reserve roll for the ravens. Even if the tax troops from the other detachment manage to hide like cowards, I'll still have jump packing troops coming in without that bonus.
I fail rerollable reserve rolls like it's going out of style.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 12:41:05
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Preacher of the Emperor
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niv-mizzet wrote:The ravens seem nice, and I'll probably buy a third so I can do it, but...
I know I'm going to almost auto-lose some games just because I fail the rerollable reserve roll for the ravens. Even if the tax troops from the other detachment manage to hide like cowards, I'll still have jump packing troops coming in without that bonus.
I fail rerollable reserve rolls like it's going out of style.
Bring a 75 point Damocles command Rhino. +1 to reserves and an orbital bombardment. You can take it as a non-slot HQ in your CAD. Then you can still squeeze in an HQ and 20-25 death company to do your dirty work by assaulting out of reserves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 14:02:50
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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tomjoad wrote:I cannot imagine NOT using the 4 Elites detachment ( PS - do we have a name on that?). Every list I imagine starts with 2 x Death Co and 2 xfuriosos in a pod.
What do you think about loosing the Objective Secured special rule using formations? I love e new formations but Objective Secured seems too good to loose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 14:56:42
Subject: Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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shgreen1 wrote: tomjoad wrote:I cannot imagine NOT using the 4 Elites detachment ( PS - do we have a name on that?). Every list I imagine starts with 2 x Death Co and 2 xfuriosos in a pod.
What do you think about loosing the Objective Secured special rule using formations? I love e new formations but Objective Secured seems too good to loose.
You're only losing ObSec on a couple units, though. A pair of tac squads, or maybe scouts, plus transports. The reason I like that formation is that it allows you to load up on squads that never would have had ObSec to begin with.
Keep in mind, though, that I wrote that before we saw the triple Strom raven dataslate, which might change things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 16:15:47
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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benjak wrote:I got this from B & C:
Angels fury spearhead force
Formation:
3 tactical squads
3 stormraven gunships
Restrictions:
Each stormraven gunship must include10 models. The sergeant of each tactical squad in this formation must take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This formations tactical squads cannot take dedicated transports and must begin the game embarked in the stormraven gunships from this formation.
Special rules:
Augur triangulation:
If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike reserve within 12" of at least two models from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.
Objective secured:
All troops units from this formation have the objective secured special rule (see page blah blah)
Spearhead strike force:
When making reserve rolls make a single roll for the entire formation, which you can choose to re-reoll. If successful, all units arrive from the formation.You can make a reserve roll for this formation from the start of turn 1.
If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I
Whoaaa assault from reserves is finally back!! It's get a hefty price tag, but damn that could be dirty if orchestrated properly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 16:32:41
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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astro_nomicon wrote:benjak wrote:I got this from B & C:
Angels fury spearhead force
Formation:
3 tactical squads
3 stormraven gunships
Restrictions:
Each stormraven gunship must include10 models. The sergeant of each tactical squad in this formation must take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This formations tactical squads cannot take dedicated transports and must begin the game embarked in the stormraven gunships from this formation.
Special rules:
Augur triangulation:
If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike reserve within 12" of at least two models from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.
Objective secured:
All troops units from this formation have the objective secured special rule (see page blah blah)
Spearhead strike force:
When making reserve rolls make a single roll for the entire formation, which you can choose to re-reoll. If successful, all units arrive from the formation.You can make a reserve roll for this formation from the start of turn 1.
If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I
Whoaaa assault from reserves is finally back!! It's get a hefty price tag, but damn that could be dirty if orchestrated properly
The only problem is you need to be in terminator armour to benefit from the teleport homer.
S you need to have some locater beacons nearby as well, as which point the area is probably to congested to pull off assaults anyway or your scout bikes (only thing that can get their turn 1) could assault anyway!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 16:44:21
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Huge Hierodule
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Eldercaveman wrote: astro_nomicon wrote:benjak wrote:I got this from B & C:
Angels fury spearhead force
Formation:
3 tactical squads
3 stormraven gunships
Restrictions:
Each stormraven gunship must include10 models. The sergeant of each tactical squad in this formation must take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This formations tactical squads cannot take dedicated transports and must begin the game embarked in the stormraven gunships from this formation.
Special rules:
Augur triangulation:
If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike reserve within 12" of at least two models from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives.
Objective secured:
All troops units from this formation have the objective secured special rule (see page blah blah)
Spearhead strike force:
When making reserve rolls make a single roll for the entire formation, which you can choose to re-reoll. If successful, all units arrive from the formation.You can make a reserve roll for this formation from the start of turn 1.
If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I
Whoaaa assault from reserves is finally back!! It's get a hefty price tag, but damn that could be dirty if orchestrated properly
The only problem is you need to be in terminator armour to benefit from the teleport homer.
S you need to have some locater beacons nearby as well, as which point the area is probably to congested to pull off assaults anyway or your scout bikes (only thing that can get their turn 1) could assault anyway!
Except the formation reads that if you're within 12" of TWO teleport homers with any deep striking Blood Angels unit, then you do not scatter and can charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 16:52:36
Subject: Re:Adeptus Astartes Blood Angels 7E Tactics
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Eldercaveman wrote: astro_nomicon wrote:benjak wrote:I got this from B & C: Angels fury spearhead force Formation: 3 tactical squads 3 stormraven gunships Restrictions: Each stormraven gunship must include10 models. The sergeant of each tactical squad in this formation must take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This formations tactical squads cannot take dedicated transports and must begin the game embarked in the stormraven gunships from this formation. Special rules: Augur triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike reserve within 12" of at least two models from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives. Objective secured: All troops units from this formation have the objective secured special rule (see page blah blah) Spearhead strike force: When making reserve rolls make a single roll for the entire formation, which you can choose to re-reoll. If successful, all units arrive from the formation.You can make a reserve roll for this formation from the start of turn 1. If this is true, how's this going to affect the meta? I Whoaaa assault from reserves is finally back!! It's get a hefty price tag, but damn that could be dirty if orchestrated properly The only problem is you need to be in terminator armour to benefit from the teleport homer. S you need to have some locater beacons nearby as well, as which point the area is probably to congested to pull off assaults anyway or your scout bikes (only thing that can get their turn 1) could assault anyway! Why the triangulationator states you dont scatter. it has nothing to do with terminator armor. the only stipulation is that you deep strike. edit: within 12" of 2 (man i cant brain today) I would love to see some crazy insane vanguard unit come out and punch some doods t2.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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