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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
It's not the money; $5 is nothing.

It's the perception of getting a worse deal compared to other backers, that's what makes people feel a bit cranky.

It's $5.

At worst with a CMoN KS it's $10.

If either of those amounts is going to make your decision, perhaps you shouldn't back in the first place?

I was cranky cuz I spent the last hour refreshing the page for it to start, and then my boss made me miss it

Ok cool Dark Elf - horrible Dwarf

Well, it's a bit rich to open with single-model stretch goals spaced at $20 000, but I'm sure they've done the research about what works at this point. And at least they're actually expanding the retail box a bit first, rather than going directly to the exclusives.

Darth Visari wrote:
Hi

Any idea when this game reach the stores?

saluti

KS delivery is estimated September 2015, so it will probably hit US based web stores for Xmas if all goes well, and add another couple of months for the rest of the world

At least they're actually adding content first, rather than a few rounds of "alternate sculpts" that would be in the game anyway...


Edit: Complaining has now turned to critical opinions of the Dwarf. Haters gonna hate...

 cincydooley wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
It's not the money; $5 is nothing.

It's the perception of getting a worse deal compared to other backers, that's what makes people feel a bit cranky.

It's $5.

At worst with a CMoN KS it's $10.

If either of those amounts is going to make your decision, perhaps you shouldn't back in the first place?

Did you not read the part where I said that $5 was nothing? You should have, you quoted me!

I do intend to back this at some point, but there is no incentive to back early now that the EBs have gone.

I was attempting to offer a reason as to why people may overreact to missing a saving of $5.

I actually like the dwarf!


I'm in!!!

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:


Did you not read the part where I said that $5 was nothing? You should have, you quoted me!

I do intend to back this at some point, but there is no incentive to back early now that the EBs have gone.

I was attempting to offer a reason as to why people may overreact to missing a saving of $5.

Oh no, I read it.

But I'll reiterate. If people are concerned about $5 and that it not "being fair" and the perception that they didn't "get as good a deal as everyone else" then life must be pretty hard all around. I hope those people don't ever try and go to popular concerts. Or shop in general! They probably find themselves disappointed all the time!

And no, I did not get an EB.


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 Alpharius wrote:
I actually like the dwarf!

I do too. It's very Paul Bonner esque, with Adrian's style added on. And the sculpt very much matches the original art.

Well thats pretty much first 2 SG done

If you back enough CMON projects and your experience bar is full, you are then entitled to roll 1D6 and enter Blood RAAAAAAGGGGEEE mode to complain about the following.

1-early birds
2-alternate sculpts
3-fake stretch goals
4-too many exclusives
5-not enough exclusives
6-ragequit and threaten to cancel pledge

I rolled a 4, so I'll go complain about the exclusives later on in the project!

International backers also get to complain about $100 shipping fees.

Wonder if they will do packs of figures as add ons?

60,000 Dollar for just three small miniatures... Seems steep

Lol. Ronin rolled a 3!

Do 6's explode here?

You'd think so - for extra BLOOD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

I'm liking everything so far - I'm liking it a lot!

 cincydooley wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:


Did you not read the part where I said that $5 was nothing? You should have, you quoted me!

I do intend to back this at some point, but there is no incentive to back early now that the EBs have gone.

I was attempting to offer a reason as to why people may overreact to missing a saving of $5.

Oh no, I read it.

But I'll reiterate. If people are concerned about $5 and that it not "being fair" and the perception that they didn't "get as good a deal as everyone else" then life must be pretty hard all around. I hope those people don't ever try and go to popular concerts. Or shop in general! They probably find themselves disappointed all the time!

And no, I did not get an EB.

Well yes, people who have to struggle to stay involved in their hobbies due to financial pressure do often end up disappointed. Perhaps the decent thing to do is not gloat passive-aggressively about that to score points against people you disagree with on a forum?

Ok so the next 4 stretch goals are to give the clans a little variety - nice.

No EBs left?

I'm out!


Seriously, this just isn't the game for me. Maybe a "unique sculpts" models-only thing for $25, but I don't especially enjoy Euro games in general.

OTOH, the Others : 7 Sins looks quite attractive. Maybe that one.

 Yodhrin wrote:


Well yes, people who have to struggle to stay involved in their hobbies due to financial pressure do often end up disappointed. Perhaps the decent thing to do is not gloat passive-aggressively about that to score points against people you disagree with on a forum?

Who's gloating?

I mean, the decision to back a KS is a pretty simple cost-benefit decision. If $5 is really a hard point for you in that decision making, maybe you shouldn't be backing them in the first place? I mean, if that $5 is making or breaking you, you probably weren't that interested in the first place, right?

I don't see that as gloating. I see it as pragmatism.



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 JohnHwangDD wrote:


Seriously, this just isn't the game for me. Maybe a "unique sculpts" models-only thing for $25, but I don't especially enjoy Euro games in general.

I didn't back Dogs of War for that very reason. Perfectly good reason not to back, IMO.

I initially considered to back Dogs of War - that game has a really elegant engine. By the end, I just wasn't feeling it. BR has a higher buy-in compared to DoW, and I think DoW may have superior replay value.

The noise of $5 is pretty amusing.

re: gloating/budget, Yeah, my gaming budget isn't what it was back when I was a teen. That just means I make more careful decisions and don't buy as much when investing in my hobbies. If something prices me out, I might be annoyed, but not particularly, since I guess I'm not the target audience.

The only time I get pissed off is if something's an inferior product because the company was lazy or cheap.

With regard to the $5-$10 early bird discounts, it's not a big deal but it does suck when I'm unable to get one especially if there are addons - and CMoN usually has addons - because then I tend to view it as missing out on a free minature/addon. But like I said, not a huge thing and similar to being in a restaurant and being told that your preferred brand of soft drink is unavailable.

I pledged because the game and, more importantly, the miniatures look good. Those trolls/giants? Mhmmm.

 Alex C wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Made it to 1:45 in the video before it got too annoying someone who's not high please give us an overview

Edit: reread what I posted.....I'm not high, people in the video just seem.....

They've been getting those people to do the gameplay videos lately.

Probably not the smartest move they've made, but the Rum and Bones one they did themselves wasn't very exciting either...

They also did the Arcadia Quest video. While some of their antics aren't quite endearing, I think it's important that they at least look like they're having fun. My only real complaint is that things can become unclear with all the noise going on.

Exactly. Gameplay videos should clearly show how to play the game. I gleaned more info from the main video to be honest.

 Dentry wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Made it to 1:45 in the video before it got too annoying someone who's not high please give us an overview

Edit: reread what I posted.....I'm not high, people in the video just seem.....

They've been getting those people to do the gameplay videos lately.

Probably not the smartest move they've made, but the Rum and Bones one they did themselves wasn't very exciting either...

They also did the Arcadia Quest video. While some of their antics aren't quite endearing, I think it's important that they at least look like they're having fun. My only real complaint is that things can become unclear with all the noise going on.

Jogando Offline as CMoN's video group does a *very* good job. Their videos are professional, and their editing is top notch. They work really hard to make the game look like something you'd have fun playing. Their DoW video very nearly sold me on the game.

Comments seem to have settled on the font as the complaint de jour.

I missed the EBs but who gives a gak about $5? I went in at $1 anyway. With a 2-week cycle. I probably won't have $75 + extras money handy in 2 weeks anyway, but will have later.

Crazily enough, I do agree...the font is a bit difficult to read, and with the Norse naming conventions, there's a lot of room for error when glancing at cards or names.

Hoping they do a minis-only pledge at some point.

~iPaint

 -iPaint- wrote:


Hoping they do a minis-only pledge at some point.

~

I really wouldn't expect it, unfortunately.

 Alex C wrote:
Comments seem to have settled on the font as the complaint de jour.

Sorry about that. But you have to admit that font sucks, unlike most complaints it's something that actually could be fixed, and it got people to stop complaining about the dwarf sculpt.