[Kickstarter] Blood Rage- Viking minis board game by CMoN, with Guillotine Games and Studio McVey!

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**BobtheInquisitor**

Alex C wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does anyone know how flammable these minis will be? Might be important later.

I'm sure Azazelx could tell you.

I was actually thinking of the big craze after Sedition Wars wave 2, where people were posting proof they had destroyed their minis in order to get the refunds. There was one guy who used to be friends with McVey or something who was very vocal about immolating his Kickstarter rewards..

**BobtheInquisitor**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Huh.

That's actually good to hear.

Beneath all the surrounding drama there's still a decent game to be had there. I actually got my Black Friday set to paint up for a cousin's birthday present. I've always been alright with lopsided games, as long as I have fun losing.

I've developed something of an unhealthy fondness for hacking and slicing those poor restic figures up though. Between Sedition Wars and those early Mantic restic figures, I'm afraid it's starting to become a bit of an addiction.

Might need to go start talking to those Restic Knights... maybe they can help me out.

Well, there is my thread dedicated to my Restic Rescue holiday project. You are certainly invited to join in.

Also, check out my Dakka blog. I'm quite the fan of the old choppy-choppy.

**DaveC**

Fellow Vikings! Eric here to give you a little taste of game play.

In BLOOD RAGE, each player becomes a powerful Viking Clan, released from the halls of Valhalla to pillage the remains of Midgard during Ragnarok - the end of the world. Two to four players battle it out over 60-90 minutes in this action-packed strategy game, gaining Glory for both pillaging, fighting and dying magnificently while the world crumbles, region by region. After three Ages, the end is here, and the Clan with the most Glory wins!

The Clans
Your Clan gives you access to powerful Viking warriors, a Ship and a Leader, as well as tracking three stats:
- Rage (your ability to summon Vikings and pay for upgrades)
- Axes (your Glory award for slaying enemies in battle)
- Horns (the limit to how many Vikings you may have on the board)

Card Drafting
At the beginning of each Age, players are given Gifts from the Gods, represented as a hand of eight cards, which they must distribute among themselves in a draft format. These cards are everything from Quests (which grant Glory for conquering provinces or having lots of slain Vikings), Upgrades (which improve your Vikings, add powerful new Monsters, or give your whole Clan a new ability) and Battle cards (which give your pillaging forces a powerful bonus in battle).

Actions
Following this, each player takes turns spending their Rage to Invade the board with their Vikings, play powerful Upgrades, commit to Quests, and Pillage the regions of Midgard to improve their Clan Stats.

The heart of the game is Pillaging. Choose a region on the board with an untouched resource and declare your intent to pillage it. Beware, however, for if any opponent has Vikings either in that region or nearby, they can join in and force a battle! In this case, each player adds up the strength of their Vikings and simultaneously plays a battle card from hand (from all those cards they drafted earlier). The player with the highest strength defeats all opponents, sending them to Valhalla. If the pillaging player wins, they upgrade the Clan stat indicated by the region.

Beware, however! Some players will have drafted gifts from Loki, the Trickster god, which reward them for losing battles and punish their victors. Take heed and watch your opponent's play style to judge if they are actually trying to win, or lure you into their trap.

This is just a basic overview of the epic action to be found in BLOOD RAGE. The game contains over 100 cards, with endless replayability depending on which Gods you choose to follow (in the draft). We'll talk in more detail about specific game elements in the future.

Until then, happy pillaging!

**RiTides**

And here I thought Yggdrasil was just the name of a Dakka poster

**kestral**

Umm - OK, but it does seem a bit simplistic to sum up an age as an action, a quest, and Ragnarok.

**Pacific**

Can I ask what are the apprehensions are about CMON in relation to the game? I'm not up to date with what's been going on.

Alex C wrote:
Vermis wrote:
So this basically looks like Space Wolves with a wee bit less of the WOLF WOLF WOLF obsession. But with added chainmail bikinis to make up for it.

Vikings were a thing before GW put them in space, you know...

Vermis might be thinking about the art style, as Adrian Smith did a fair amount of Space Wolves stuff I believe.

**DaveC**

Remy has put up a new blog post about Blood Rage http://remytremblay.sculpture.over-blog.com/article-blood-rage-1-125186454.html

of note the miniature is 35mm to the eyes and was designed to shrink to 32mm in plastic and it had to be sculpted so that it could be cast in one piece. Jason Hendricks also mentions this in his Frost Giant blog that it had to be sculpted to cast in one piece.

**DaveC**

Troll

**tre manor**

....... The troll's head is FAR too large for it;s body and the posture is a bti stiff. It really lost it's menace between concept and sculpting...

**cincydooley**

tre manor wrote:
....... The troll's head is FAR too large for it;s body and the posture is a bti stiff. It really lost it's menace between concept and sculpting...

Have to agree. He looks far more gentle in sculpt than he does in artwork.

His face reminds me a lot of the rock trolls from Frozen in sculpted form.....

**overtyrant**

Stumpy legs!

**Tyr13**

'Oos a good widdle twoll? Yes you are! Yes you are!

<.<

**tre manor**

**DaveC**

Hmmm this one might be before The Others after all unless the schedule has changed.

it (the troll) will be in the core box of blood rage ..... We expect the kickstarter in February...

**cincydooley**

DaveC wrote:
Hmmm this one might be before The Others after all unless the schedule has changed.

it (the troll) will be in the core box of blood rage ..... We expect the kickstarter in February...

Wonder if that has anything to do with so many folks having problems with the rules of the last McVey project that they want to ensure that the next one is really on point?

**DaveC**

Both The Others and Blood rage are written by Eric M. Lang this one has been in the works for over 2 years I guess it's just further along or more ready to go than The Others as they have started to talk about rules and show cards which The Others hasn't had yet (although there is supposed to be more on The Others this week including some details on the gameplay)

SMV seems to have gone back to producing the miniatures whilst others work on the rules/game - everyone plays to their strenghts. I wouldn't be surprised to see more collaboration from this group (all going to plan and being well received that is)

**cincydooley**

DaveC wrote:
Both The Others and Blood rage are written by Eric M. Lang this one has been in the works for over 2 years I guess it's just further along or more ready to go than The Others as they have started to talk about rules and show cards which The Others hasn't had yet (although there is supposed to be more on The Others this week including some details on the gameplay)

SMV seems to have gone back to producing the miniatures whilst others work on the rules/game - everyone plays to their strenghts. I wouldn't be surprised to see more collaboration from this group (all going to plan and being well received that is)

Ahhh! I didn't realize Eric did the rules to The Others. Nice! I think that's the best for all parties, TBH. But then again, I wasn't unhappy with the Sedition Wars minis either

**DaveC**

As Rum and Bones winds down this one seems to be winding up (KS in February)

Game play update #2!
Today we'll look at your clan. Each player in Blood Rage receives a Clan sheet (The Raven Clan sheet is pictured below).

On this sheet are spaces for you to upgrade your three types of figures (Viking warriors, your Ship and your Leader), to place up to 2 monsters (like that cool Frost Giant we previewed earlier) and general Clan upgrades (which we'll preview in the future).

You will also track your three Clan stats on this sheet. Each stat is very important, but you can't quite master them all, so you'll have to pillage in accordance with your strategy. The stats are:

Rage: this stat fuels your viking clan. It gives you "currency" each round to invade the map with your figures, or play important upgrade card to improve your Clan.

Axes: this stat improves your Glory award for destroying opponents in battle. The higher your axes, the more Glory you earn. And Glory is how you win the game at the end of three Ages.

Horns: this stat limits how many figures you are allowed to have on the board. The higher your Horns, the more figures you are allowed. And since you need figures to pillage and battle (or die gloriously), the more the better.

Finally, if you choose to specialize in a stat, you gain a lot of bonus glory for getting it to its highest level by the end of the game.

**stanman**

It looks nice... but my sedition wars experience has taught me that with Mc Vey's stuff that I should just wait until it's being cleared out with a fire sale on Amazon before I pick it up. No sense in paying retail for a do-it-yourself game that isn't even remotely playable as sold.

**Alpharius**

Not sure how I missed this one until now, but I'm interested - and subscribed - now!

**spiralingcadaver**

stanman wrote:
It looks nice... but my sedition wars experience has taught me that with Mc Vey's stuff that I should just wait until it's being cleared out with a fire sale on Amazon before I pick it up. No sense in paying retail for a do-it-yourself game that isn't even remotely playable as sold.

Maybe I'm just taking the bait, but SW was unbalanced, rather than unplayable, when released. Furthermore, Guillotine is doing the rules, not SMV, and even if SMV were doing the rules, the rules writers for SW's first release are no longer with them.

**RiTides**

Oh my gosh I love that troll! So cool

**cincydooley**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
stanman wrote:
It looks nice... but my sedition wars experience has taught me that with Mc Vey's stuff that I should just wait until it's being cleared out with a fire sale on Amazon before I pick it up. No sense in paying retail for a do-it-yourself game that isn't even remotely playable as sold.
Maybe I'm just taking the bait, but SW was unbalanced, rather than unplayable, when released. Furthermore, Guillotine is doing the rules, not SMV, and even if SMV were doing the rules, the rules writers for SW's first release are no longer with them.

But. But. That ruins all the fun hyperbole.

**stanman**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
Maybe I'm just taking the bait, but SW was unbalanced, rather than unplayable, when released. Furthermore, Guillotine is doing the rules, not SMV, and even if SMV were doing the rules, the rules writers for SW's first release are no longer with them.

Guillotine didn't do all that stellar of a job with zombicide when it first released. CMON handled much of the post translation editing and there were still a number of issues with things not being very clear. Granted it was not the SW level bad but it still had flaws. So the game being co-published by GG doesn't do very much for me. SW has been out for quite a while and it's still floundering (even if there's a new set of writers) so until there's a track record of them actually having a successful product released under their name I'm not biting on any of their KS offerings. If I see it at retail doing well at some point I'll check it out, until then my experience with SW is keeping me out.

Once bitten twice shy.

**cincydooley**

I really must be the only person on earth that is pretty darn happy with what he got with sedition wars.

**RiTides**

Yep, I think so

**highlord tamburlaine**

Nah, I'm pretty content with Sedition Wars. I've been painting up a set for my cousin, and truth be told, I'm rather enjoying it.

When I'm done with his and I've got time on my hands, I think I'll be digging out my copy as well.

**RiTides**

Yeah, I was being facetious. I'd much rather talk about Blood Rage, though

**spiralingcadaver**

cincydooley wrote:
I really must be the only person on earth that is pretty darn happy with what he got with sedition wars.

Yeah... IDK, I feel about the same way. Sedition Wars was not the industry-changing behemoth some (including myself) expected it was going to be, but I never felt the problems were exceptionally bad (there are certainly some first editions I've gotten so angry about, I needed to take a breath and pack up their contents and leave them put away for months before I'd consider trying them again), and I think it makes an enjoyable addition to the collection now that it's fixed.

**Alpharius**

The Wave 2 Scale change issue was really bad though, and to the best of my knowledge, never 'fixed'.