[Kickstarter] Blood Rage- Viking minis board game by CMoN, with Guillotine Games and Studio McVey!

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**Alpharius**

Alpharius wrote:
Alex C wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Maybe anyone who wants a 'minis only' pledge could go ask for one over on the actual Kickstarter on the comments page?

Or message the creators directly though the Kickstarter page?

At this point, that would definitely have a better chance of getting the results you're after vs. endlessly 'debating' it here.

Thanks!

It's been asked.

Several times.

Answer is still "no".

OK - great!

Keep asking there though, and not here, in this thread.

I insist.

Thanks!

One more time...

**cincydooley**

His Master's Voice wrote:
Asking about miniature only pledge options is only ever sensible with boardgame projects. Actual miniature game projects have no need for that, because they either offer separate rules, or have minimal additional non miniature content in boxed pledges.

So how many times is enough times?

**Theophony**

cincydooley wrote:
His Master's Voice wrote:
Asking about miniature only pledge options is only ever sensible with boardgame projects. Actual miniature game projects have no need for that, because they either offer separate rules, or have minimal additional non miniature content in boxed pledges.

So how many times is enough times?

That would be the third time after they decide there has been enough people asking to actually create the pledge level. The first time after is fine, cause no one looks, they just go to complain. The second time is okay, we'll give you that because everyone has a bad day and misses the big print saying we give up. The third is just rediculous. Like everyone missing the MOD's demand for us to move away from this subject here and take it to the kickstarter comments. I don't need a reply to this lets move on to more nice sculpts and stretch goals. Maybe I we get enough figures then the miniatures only people will say "who cares, I'm in for the figs as the board game parts are now worth getting because I'm getting enough plastic crack"

**JohnHwangDD**

Theophony wrote:
Maybe I we get enough figures then the miniatures only people will say "who cares, I'm in for the figs as the board game parts are now worth getting because I'm getting enough plastic crack"

Right now, I count:
12 Monsters (4+2 big & 2+4 small)
36 Vikings (4x 1+4+4)
3 Gods
= 51 scale miniatures (27 unique sculpts)

+23 sculpted tokens
= 74 3-D objects

51 minis for $85 is the baseline offer. That's a little expensive for a CMoN game, whereas 74 for $85 would be on par with previous offers, so it kind of depends on how you view the 3-D items as having value..

**Theophony**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Theophony wrote:
Maybe I we get enough figures then the miniatures only people will say "who cares, I'm in for the figs as the board game parts are now worth getting because I'm getting enough plastic crack"

Right now, I count:
12 Monsters (4+2 big & 2+4 small)
36 Vikings (4x 1+4+4)
3 Gods
= 51 scale miniatures (27 unique sculpts)

+23 sculpted tokens
= 74 3-D objects

51 minis for $85 is the baseline offer. That's a little expensive for a CMoN game, whereas 74 for $85 would be on par with previous offers, so it kind of depends on how you view the 3-D items as having value..

That's why I'm saying lets get some more stretch goals and more figures. Then maybe people like you and I will be satisfied with the quantity of figures and won't care about the cardboard and other stuff. Right now I'm looking at this and saying if really like a couple pieces, but the rest will probably get used in Conan anyway so it comes down to funds. while the sculpts are nice I can wait till miniaturemarket.com gets it in and get the bigger discount.

Also I'd like to point out I put a higher value on these figures over the zombicide ones because of the factory these are being made in. I see more quality in these than previous CMON stuff (no slight against them intended).

**skrulnik**

IMO its already worth it for just the figures.

Using Reaper Bones as a cost comparison, and John's total number of models.

6 monsters at $8 each is $48.
45 small at $2.25 each is $101.

So the value in one piece minis is there.
Because from what I'm seeing, these sculpts are at least the equal of Reaper Bones.

**spiralingcadaver**

Yeah... not really seeing the complaint from those who just want minis. There looks to be plenty enough to get your value even if you don't want the game.

**His Master's Voice**

spiralingcadaver wrote:
There looks to be plenty enough to get your value even if you don't want the game.

Your value? Dunno, maybe.

My value? That's a different story. I have no need for repeat sculpts of the vikings, so they're dead weight to me as much as all the cardboard is. The alternative sculpts put the whole thing close to where I'd consider paying for the chaff, but it's not there yet. I'd like to see another big monster or two before I buy in.

**JohnHwangDD**

skrulnik wrote:
IMO its already worth it for just the figures.

Using Reaper Bones as a cost comparison, and John's total number of models.

6 monsters at $8 each is $48.
45 small at $2.25 each is $101.

So the value in one piece minis is there.
Because from what I'm seeing, these sculpts are at least the equal of Reaper Bones.

If we are looking at Reaper Bones, the most recent Bones II was $100 for

Spoiler:

Reaper Bones II had considerably more minis per dollar.

If you look at Bones II a la carte, big monsters are $5 each (2 Hill Giants for $10) and small are <$1.50 each (6 Heroes I for $8 total), so:
$30 for the 6 big
$30 for the 21 unique small (6 monsters, 12 Viks, 3 Gods)
= $60 total vs $75 price.

Blood Rage should add at least a dozen more whatnots if this really is a minis-first game.

**cincydooley**

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Blood Rage should add at least a dozen more whatnots if this really is a minis-first game.

It isn't a "minis-first" game.

**Piston Honda**

Not sure if this has been asked yet...

Will there be a minis only pledge?

Spoiler:

And just to add

This is a board game.

Board games retail 50 to 100 bucks depending on size and complexity.

Seems like this game hits that spot just as well as any other board game.

**Alpharius**

Alpharius wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Alex C wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Maybe anyone who wants a 'minis only' pledge could go ask for one over on the actual Kickstarter on the comments page?

Or message the creators directly though the Kickstarter page?

At this point, that would definitely have a better chance of getting the results you're after vs. endlessly 'debating' it here.

Thanks!

It's been asked.

Several times.

Answer is still "no".

OK - great!

Keep asking there though, and not here, in this thread.

I insist.

Thanks!

One more time...

Third time is a charm?

I certainly hope so.

i.e. - seriously, last warning.

**cincydooley**

New Update:

Hail Brothers and Sisters!

After a weekend of battle, the fog of war rises to reveal another Stretch Goal fallen to the ground. Now all backers will be able to gaze at the might of Odin sitting on his throne.

As we head into the second half of the Kickstarter campaign, let's introduce a god that's always looking ahead. Perhaps he might give us some sign of what's to come!

https://d15chbti7ht62o.cloudfront.net/assets/003/400/305/2bac7c63947b410b80d83f5987dd7110_large.jpg?1425754001

If we reach 470K, all backers will get Heimdall, the Watcher Guardian, including his figure and card to use him with the Gods of Asgard rules!

Heimdall's sculpture is still very much a work in progress. For one, his horn Gjallarhorn is still in rough form.

Heimdall's ability changes radically the way battles are resolved in his province. With his gift of foreknowledge, he forces players to reveal their Battle cards one at a time, in clockwise order, with the pillaging player revealing his card last. That means players are able to choose the card they will play in response to the cards already revealed by the players before them.

We are only barely halfway there, folks. There's still a lot we might unearth if we push hard enough.

For the Glory!

**RoninXiC**

Picture >>>>> miniature (i know it's wip)

**Alpharius**

They really are going to make us wait for the THOR reveal, aren't they?

**highlord tamburlaine**

Curious if it'll just be Thor himself, or Thor in his goat chariot.

Odin got his chair, why can't Thor has his goat sled then?

Maybe we'll get back to monsters once all the main gods have shown up.

**paulson games**

You know what would be sweet? Having the link to the KS included in the first post.

**cincydooley**

paulson games wrote:
You know what would be sweet? Having the link to the KS included in the first post.

That sounds like a LOT of work

I'd do it, but alas, I did not start the thread.

**JohnHwangDD**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Curious if it'll just be Thor himself, or Thor in his goat chariot.

Odin got his chair, why can't Thor has his goat sled then?

Maybe we'll get back to monsters once all the main gods have shown up.

I would hope Sleipner makes an appearance - 8-legged steeds are badass!

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Alpharius wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Alex C wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Maybe anyone who wants a 'minis only' pledge could go ask for one over on the actual Kickstarter on the comments page?

Or message the creators directly though the Kickstarter page?

At this point, that would definitely have a better chance of getting the results you're after vs. endlessly 'debating' it here.

Thanks!

It's been asked.

Several times.

Answer is still "no".

OK - great!

Keep asking there though, and not here, in this thread.

I insist.

Thanks!

One more time...

Third time is a charm?

I certainly hope so.

i.e. - seriously, last warning.

Obviously, nobody takes you seriously unless you break out the red text.

**Alpharius**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Curious if it'll just be Thor himself, or Thor in his goat chariot.

Odin got his chair, why can't Thor has his goat sled then?

Maybe we'll get back to monsters once all the main gods have shown up.

I would hope Sleipner makes an appearance - 8-legged steeds are badass!

I'd love that too - but we've already seen Odin, and he's in...a chair!

**Nostromodamus**

Alpharius wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Curious if it'll just be Thor himself, or Thor in his goat chariot.

Odin got his chair, why can't Thor has his goat sled then?

Maybe we'll get back to monsters once all the main gods have shown up.

I would hope Sleipner makes an appearance - 8-legged steeds are badass!

I'd love that too - but we've already seen Odin, and he's in...a chair!

Put some badass scythed wheels on it so he can get all Professor X on the players.

**Theophony**

Alpharius wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Curious if it'll just be Thor himself, or Thor in his goat chariot.

Odin got his chair, why can't Thor has his goat sled then?

Maybe we'll get back to monsters once all the main gods have shown up.

I would hope Sleipner makes an appearance - 8-legged steeds are badass!

I'd love that too - but we've already seen Odin, and he's in...a chair!

Is it at least an eight legged chair?

**Azazelx**

I approve of the new thread title.

**highlord tamburlaine**

New thread title had to be done.

**Mutter**

Will there by a 'game-only' pledge without the minis at some stage?

**Nostromodamus**

Mutter wrote:
Will there by a 'game-only' pledge without the minis at some stage?

Someone actually did ask if there would be a cheaper version using wooden cubes instead of minis...

The answer is no.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Wouldn't the non- mini version just be Midgard?

Isn't that what Blood Rage is based on?

I thought I read that somewhere.

**cincydooley**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Wouldn't the non- mini version just be Midgard?

Isn't that what Blood Rage is based on?

I thought I read that somewhere.

To me it seems like a mixture of Midgard and a bit of Chaos in the Old World, with a few new elements added.

**spiralingcadaver**

Epic points for the title, tamburlaine.

**JohnHwangDD**

Alex C wrote:
Mutter wrote:
Will there by a 'game-only' pledge without the minis at some stage?

Someone actually did ask if there would be a cheaper version using wooden cubes instead of minis...

The answer is no.

The funny thing is, the game plays perfectly well with tokens or meeples. Arguably better, as it emphasizes that the underlying game is a Euro strategy game.