[Kickstarter] Blood Rage- Viking minis board game by CMoN, with Guillotine Games and Studio McVey!

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**Azazelx**

OK, a solid and decent number of figures for the price, but it's not quite a "massive Viking army". That's why I had a WTF moment there.

**cincydooley**

Azazelx wrote:
OK, a solid and decent number of figures for the price, but it's not quite a "massive Viking army". That's why I had a WTF moment there.

I don't know that it was ever intended to provide a "massive Viking army."

Oh yeah....and a game.

**JohnHwangDD**

Well, OK, what would you have expected for $75?

**cincydooley**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Well, OK, what would you have expected for $75?

The original base game with said components.

Or:

Descent: Journeys in the Dark Second Edition is a board game in which one player takes on the role of the treacherous overlord, and up to four other players take on the roles of courageous heroes. Featuring double-sided modular board pieces, countless hero and skill combinations, and an immersive story-driven campaign, Descent: Journeys in the Dark Second Edition transports heroes to a vibrant fantasy realm where they must stand together against an ancient evil.

This updated version of the classic board game of dungeon-delving adventure features a host of enhancements, including new heroes and monsters, streamlined rules, a class-based hero system, campaign play, and much more.

Descent: Journeys in the Dark Second Edition includes –

A rulebook and quest guide
Eight hero figures and 38 monster figures
Nine custom dice
Nearly 250 cards
48 Map tiles
Over 150 tokens

Emphasis mine.

**Azazelx**

cincydooley wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
OK, a solid and decent number of figures for the price, but it's not quite a "massive Viking army". That's why I had a WTF moment there.

I don't know that it was ever intended to provide a "massive Viking army."
Oh yeah....and a game.

I'm not quoting CMoN - I'm quoting whoever said that above. I read that and was like "Wait, what? Did I miss something?" Let's not take my quote or question out of context.

**cincydooley**

Azazelx wrote:

I'm not quoting CMoN - I'm quoting whoever said that above. I read that and was like "Wait, what? Did I miss something?" Let's not take my quote or question out of context.

Ahhhh.

Gotcha.

**DaveC**

The pre PM KS survey is out - it just wants your email, delivery address and number of 5th player and art books required.

**Karazax**

Finished Fenrir Sculpt:

**JohnHwangDD**

That sculpted a lot faster than I would have expected.

I guess speed and quality actually *is* possible...

Now, when will they be showing the MIKH sculpts (for Conan)?

I'll guess 2 months from now.

**Alpharius**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
That sculpted a lot faster than I would have expected.

I guess speed and quality actually *is* possible...

Of course it is!

The saying is you can have two of the following: speed, quality and cheap.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Now, when will they be showing the MIKH sculpts?

I'll guess 2 months from now.

I didn't think he was involved with this one.

You sure you're not confusing this one with CONAN - he's scultping for them...

**JohnHwangDD**

I clarified MIKH sculpting for Conan as you were typing...

**Theophony**

And I've been badgering away in the Conan kickstarter for his progress. If he can't show his friends progress who can he show

.

**Karazax**

In case anybody missed the kickstarter, or didn't have the money then, you can still late pledge for Blood Rage and get all the stretch goals:

http://www.cmon.com/pledge/store/products/blood-rage-late-pledge/

**DaveC**

CKPM invites are going out. Went to finalise mine but its looking for $31.50 for shipping on a $70 game if thats not an error I'll be asking for a refund

**Wehrkind**

Wow, yea that's pretty rough.

I wonder what the issue is with shipping costs the past few years. Getting things between countries has gotten pretty crazy.

**JohnHwangDD**

US carriers and such have dramatically increased rates this year, and it is impacting a lot of KS, I'm sure.

**Wehrkind**

Yea, but the why of that is curious.

**DaveC**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
US carriers and such have dramatically increased rates this year, and it is impacting a lot of KS, I'm sure.

True but I'm not in the US nor is the shipping through a US based courier. I've sent them a message if it doesn't drop below $25 (or they don't respond in time) I'll look for a refund the 60 days isn't up until mid May. It's looking like going for a smaller value pledges on CMoN KS just isn't worth it anymore with the added shipping cost so it's in big or not all.

**Undead_Love-Machine**

I just paid $23.40 shipping to the UK, I wonder why you are getting charged more?

Did you get any additional items?

**JohnHwangDD**

They're wanting nearly $18 to ship a base game to California. That's basically double the $10 that they said at the time of the campaign.

**cincydooley**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
They're wanting nearly $18 to ship a base game to California. That's basically double the $10 that they said at the time of the campaign.

It honestly really doesn't surprise me, sadly.

With no shipping discount, it was $32 for me to send a copy of Arcadia Quest from Ohio to Cali.

Shipping costs of fuggin skyrocketed.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Remember the days of free shipping?

Yeah. I miss those too.

Shipping in the US sucks. It's crazy a tiny box to Japan will set me back at least 20+, but my family can send us stuff that's quite heavy from Japan to the US for a fraction of what I spent.

**DaveC**

They've confirmed my shipping is correct so I've asked for a refund 45% of the pledge cost is too much. They need to provide better estimates for shipping in future Greece another EU country is looking at $60.

Well I was on the fence about this one and only stayed in as they put a lot in the pledge so it's no great loss to me. It wouldn't stop me backing another CMoN project but I'd have to be spending enough for the shipping to be worth it

**RoninXiC**

Greece is just brutal over 60$ from Germany!

**JohnHwangDD**

I wonder how much "EU-friendly" fallout CMoN is going to see here. On the B-Seiged thread, only 9 countries were within the $15-25 estimate, while 19 were above the $25 ceiling.

I'm not really happy about this. I had originally looked at this as a little split for minis, and the extra cost is kinda pissing me off.

**Orlanth**

I am sort of glad I missed this one.
Too many good projects to back, and not enough cash.
Costing out HINT at the moment.

**cincydooley**

Orlanth wrote:
I am sort of glad I missed this one.
Too many good projects to back, and not enough cash.
Costing out HINT at the moment.

What's HINT?

**spiralingcadaver**

Some cyberpunk KS. I was kinda' interested, but a less-than-great attitude from the creators was enough for me to give it a pass.

KS's are starting to get like restaurants for me. There's enough good stuff out there that if you're not interested in treating your customer right, I can find something else.

**Bioptic**

cincydooley wrote:
Orlanth wrote:
I am sort of glad I missed this one.
Too many good projects to back, and not enough cash.
Costing out HINT at the moment.

What's HINT?

"Human Interface", a cyberpunk boardgame with metal models. Partly due to all the metal models/card tiles, and the fact that it's based out of Europe, the shipping issues are inverted for that one. Quite affordable for Europe, but the estimates they're getting from their shipper for America are 3 times the European cost, and half the cost of the base pledge! Not quite sure what the attitude problem being referenced is, but definitely shipping into/out of the States is rapidly becoming a tricky topic of late.

**Theophony**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
I wonder how much "EU-friendly" fallout CMoN is going to see here. On the B-Seiged thread, only 9 countries were within the $15-25 estimate, while 19 were above the $25 ceiling.

I'm not really happy about this. I had originally looked at this as a little split for minis, and the extra cost is kinda pissing me off.

You know if they had come out and said something to the extent of the drop in the euro compared to the dollar has drastically increased the shipping charges I might have been okay with that half

answer, but instead they bring up the fact that THEY pay the shipping from the manufacturer to their distribution center

. Who knew that a company that makes stuff would charge for that

.

I'm in the USA, St. Louis, Missouri, and my shipping was one of the lowest $10.23 for base game and expansion, but I feel for everyone else that got hosed.