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Wonderwolf wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, looks like we're continuing with the "cool but oversized models, awful awful fluff butchery" path. That's another of my WHFRP/Mordheim campaign settings destroyed.

Mordheim is set in the Imperial Year 1999 anyhow, ~500 years before the regular WFB timeline, whether End Times would've happened or not. Most human special characters familiar to WFB players (and partly killed off in the End Times) weren't remotely even born yet during Mordheim.

If you've played both Mordheim and WFB (or the respective settings at least), you should be familiar with the concept of taking the setting on at different points in time.

Add to that the more cartoony, "alternative reality of Warhammer World" from Blood Bowl, and it should be clear that there never was just a single "universally shared" Warhammer World.

I was going to say this if someone else hadn't. Mordheim was razed to the ground centuries before the End Times. Its likely just a marsh or something now. Or a field.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, looks like we're continuing with the "cool but oversized models, awful awful fluff butchery" path.

Depending on what side of the line of criticism you are, the models could be awesome and you could love the fluff. Just sayin'.

That's another of my WHFRP/Mordheim campaign settings destroyed.

You mean they didn't consult you and your playgroup first !? The rapscallions!

Next week Boneripper and Thanquol are up aswell as Warhammer: Thanquol.

No other fantasy releases that week (my FLGS got the WD early this time)

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
Next week Boneripper and Thanquol are up aswell as Warhammer: Thanquol.

No other fantasy releases that week (my FLGS got the WD early this time)

How do they look?

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
Next week Boneripper and Thanquol are up aswell as Warhammer: Thanquol.

If'n you don't mind, what's the price on both?

Thanks in advance!

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 chiefbigredman wrote:
I want note pictures of those armoured rat ogres things! I will probably get a new grey seer model and warlord because those kits are going to come out. Trying to focus on Empire but my 6000 points of skaven could use another 2 or 3 thousand more points.

Dear wallet....prepare to take a hit

The new grey seer is nice but i figure you could always take the one from the screaming bell kit and use it provided you don't use the bell. According to people you can also use green stuff for it whenever you want him off and on.

To think i got the much crappier looking grey seer in metal. I'm feeling like a chump now.

I may also be wrong but i don't think the grey seer's base is on the same sized base as the other skaven infantry which could be a bit strange seeing he'd have to go off to the side if it's 25x25mm.

As for warlord models i'm doing fine with that one metal dude that was a supplement model for island of blood and using the warlord from island of blood as my BSB chieftain (banner on his back).

Originally i wanted to get a vermin lord but with limited funds and other promising arrivals i may wait and see what these armored rat ogres have. Seriously weapons teams on rat ogres? I may just have to throw down all my money for em. I wonder what the cost will be. I'm guessing somewhere around blightkings and some of the more awesome ogre sized minis (vargheist/crypt horror set?). Then again it could end up costing more. I don't think i'd want to spend more than 60 dollars for 3. We'll see what GW throws out for cost. It'd probably be an insane amount like always.

My friend I have a grey seer on the bell, the grey seer from another bell on foot, plus the metal classic one. One more couldn't hurt.
The grey seer won't be on a 25x25 there is nothing in the skaven army with that so it wouldn't make any sense at all for them to have a seer with that base side.

The whole idea of skaven is to have HORDES UPON HORDES OF MODELS!
I'll only buy 1 vermin lord model for now, some of dem rat ogre things maybe if they look good and the hardcover book and hell maybe I'll buy another 40 stormvermin to go with it then I'll have 100 Stormie's

For the love of all that is skaaaaven!!!

 ImAGeek wrote:


How do they look?

Bigger than before (as expected),the new Grey Seer a few pages back isn't Thanquol but looks quite similar,i'd say Boneripper is about 3 times as big.
Thanquol is riding Boneripper on the cover of the WD,Boneripper is posed somewhat similar to one of the IoB rat ogres

 Platuan4th wrote:

If'n you don't mind, what's the price on both?

Thanks in advance!

I'm sorry to have to dissapoint you but i wasn't allowed more than a couple glances and forgot to check the prices,they're not as big as the Verminlords though from what i saw so i think they're somewhere around that price range,as for the book i have no idea.

I might be able to get more info to you Tuesday evening but i can't promise.

Sim-Life wrote:

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Welp, looks like we're continuing with the "cool but oversized models, awful awful fluff butchery" path. That's another of my WHFRP/Mordheim campaign settings destroyed.

Mordheim is set in the Imperial Year 1999 anyhow, ~500 years before the regular WFB timeline, whether End Times would've happened or not. Most human special characters familiar to WFB players (and partly killed off in the End Times) weren't remotely even born yet during Mordheim.

If you've played both Mordheim and WFB (or the respective settings at least), you should be familiar with the concept of taking the setting on at different points in time.

Add to that the more cartoony, "alternative reality of Warhammer World" from Blood Bowl, and it should be clear that there never was just a single "universally shared" Warhammer World.

I was going to say this if someone else hadn't. Mordheim was razed to the ground centuries before the End Times. Its likely just a marsh or something now. Or a field.

You guys do get that the ruleset is also called "Mordheim", yeah? Regardless, it's a spurious point; Mordheim is a defined setting, it's self-contained. "I want to play Mordheim" is not a topic that needs any debate beyond whether or not anyone wants to play Mordheim with you. "I want to play Warhammer, but set in the years immediately preceding the End Times" will, as this thread demonstrates, earn you ridicule from a lot of people, and anyone who has the courtesy to take you a bit seriously will then want to discuss exactly what that means for the game; does it mean End Times units are also disallowed? Does it mean you don't want to use the extra Lords & Heroes allowance? Are we talking days before the End Times starts, or years, decades? And that's right now. If the End Times stuff sticks around, which is seeming depressingly likely, in a couple of years you'll be having that discussion with people who've very little or no experience of WHF prior to End Times. If GW did proper era-based systems there wouldn't be an issue, but they don't, there's only "now" and "everything else that may possibly have happened at some point prior to now".

 Haight wrote:

That's another of my WHFRP/Mordheim campaign settings destroyed.

You mean they didn't consult you and your playgroup first !? The rapscallions!

Oh seriously, do sod off. I genuinely don't get you lot; GW bring out new models and there's a literal torrent of complaints and criticisms, valid and petty alike, and barely anyone bats an eye, but heaven forfend anyone expresses dislike or regret about changes to the background material, no no, that is beyond the pale.

So i checked into my local GW today and in the 'end times' magic cards apparently skaven are getting a couple new spells (at least). One is called 'The Great Red Pox' or something and effects all units in 24" (friend and foe). It hits most units on a 4+ and clan pestilens models on a 5+. Basically each unit it hits takes a toughness test with no armor saves allowed and if failed dies instantly (guessing wards are allowed). Note to everybody to use your magic resistance.

The next one works something like the comet of cassandora and cracks call. I can't remember the range or name but basically you roll each magic phase to see when it comes in and when it arrives it does a large template size of initiative tests. It sounds like buildings are effected as per 'cracks call'. I'm not sure what saves if any are allowed by this.

Both spells require something in the 20's as minimum to cast

The first spell i mentioned is a plague spell whereas the second is a ruin spell.

I'm sorry if i'm being vague here but i just glanced the cards a little.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
So i checked into my local GW today and in the 'end times' magic cards apparently skaven are getting a couple new spells (at least). One is called 'The Great Red Pox' or something and effects all units in 24" (friend and foe). It hits most units on a 4+ and clan pestilens models on a 5+. Basically each unit it hits takes a toughness test with no armor saves allowed and if failed dies instantly (guessing wards are allowed). Note to everybody to use your magic resistance.

The next one works something like the comet of cassandora and cracks call. I can't remember the range or name but basically you roll each magic phase to see when it comes in and when it arrives it does a large template size of initiative tests. It sounds like buildings are effected as per 'cracks call'. I'm not sure what saves if any are allowed by this.

Both spells require something in the 20's as minimum to cast

The first spell i mentioned is a plague spell whereas the second is a ruin spell.

I'm sorry if i'm being vague here but i just glanced the cards a little.

The End Times Skaven spells are the same new Skaven spells from Storm of Magic, IIRC.

Thanquol + Boneripper

They look good - thankfully not too oversized

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Warhams-77 wrote:
Thanquol + Boneripper

http://www.gw-fanworld.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=243041&d=1420417120

They look good - thankfully not too oversized





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Humanahumana *drooling* SOLD
I'm so damn excited for all these new things to add to my skaven force!

Ahhhh!!! I just did my first pre-order on Friday for the Verminlord, and now I've got two more to do! Damn them for making such awesome stuff!

I needed a named character for my army anyway :p

Love the style of the cover art on these End Times books, very well done!

Guess I have to actually be sitting by my comp on Friday. I managed to grab a hardback of the Khaine book so I still have all the hardbacks to date. And this one looks like another that'll continue the trend.

Really looking forward to this one. Just wish they would produce enough for everyone to actually get without having to freak out about it.

Am I the only person going nuts wanting to know what other armies are going to be in this book besides skaven? I was really hoping they were going to drop some hints in the white dwarf, but NOPE. Nothing in the teaser either.

really cool fig, but I think it's idiotic that thanquol rides boneripper. Him being alongside it would have looked much better imo. fortunately, it's really easy to achieve this.

Not digging the Master Blaster look, but the models do look really cool.

That's a lotttt of flamethrowers. He looks pretty cool.


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 Yodhrin wrote:

 Haight wrote:

That's another of my WHFRP/Mordheim campaign settings destroyed.

You mean they didn't consult you and your playgroup first !? The rapscallions!

Oh seriously, do sod off. I genuinely don't get you lot; GW bring out new models and there's a literal torrent of complaints and criticisms, valid and petty alike, and barely anyone bats an eye, but heaven forfend anyone expresses dislike or regret about changes to the background material, no no, that is beyond the pale.

It's fine to not like the new background, but you're moaning that they've ruined your campaign, when all you and your group need to do is ignore the new fluff, or just set your campaign before it. You're moaning about something that's so easily fixed it's basically not an issue. The saying mountains out of molehills comes to mind.

It strikes me that, now Boneripper lacks any sort of hand or claw, his name has become somewhat ironic.


EDIT: Wait, no, he's got his feet. Although trying to keep his nickname relevant AND balance his boss on his shoulders is a sitcom episode in itself.

Leggy wrote:
It strikes me that, now Boneripper lacks any sort of hand or claw, his name has become somewhat ironic.

I think the rumours said that the flamethrowes were an option so I'm guessing the other option consists entirely of bone-ripping instruments

That is one badass looking Rat Ogre! Looks like Thanquol's not screwing around with this Bone Ripper MkXIII lol.

I think the Ogre is absolutely ugly and not in a good way. The proportions are that much off that I just cannot take it any seriously. It just looks stupid.

RoninXiC wrote:
I think the Ogre is absolutely ugly and not in a good way. The proportions are that much off that I just cannot take it any seriously. It just looks stupid.

I can't quite tell but it looks like it has a torso stuck on top of another torso instead of any sort of realistic anatomy with the 4 arms. Like.. sure it's a mutant or whatever but at a glance I thought it was a Frankenstein like construction.

What? This is probably the closest you'll ever get to a functional quad arm setup on a humanoid. It still has massive issues, but if we're talking about realistic, you can't really expect more than what's being shown here.

I no longer have money.

 jonolikespie wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
I think the Ogre is absolutely ugly and not in a good way. The proportions are that much off that I just cannot take it any seriously. It just looks stupid.

I can't quite tell but it looks like it has a torso stuck on top of another torso instead of any sort of realistic anatomy with the 4 arms. Like.. sure it's a mutant or whatever but at a glance I thought it was a Frankenstein like construction.

It literally is a Frankenstein like construction. You can even see all the stitches on it. That's what Rat Ogres are.

Plus it's also a beastie that's been exposed to Warpstone, so proportions go out the window where mutants are concerned...

Really don't like that Boneripper model. 2/10

Wait, so people LIKE the Fabulous Vermilla, Queen of the UnderEmpire, but dislike the mutated abomination?

What has become of Skaven players these days?