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Joyboozer wrote:
Do these new rat ogres require pack masters?


They have warpstone nipples. No self-respecting packmaster would touch them with a 10' man-catcher.

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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
So is Cygnar working in conjunction with the Skaven to clean out all those Menoth zealots these days?

Flashes of Thunderheads and Dynamo power systems attached to giant rat ogres...

Gonna get me some Ratjacks!

If those Stormfiends are big enough, maybe I can use that to proxy a Stormwall....

I think I like that more than the Verminlords, to be honest.

Always liked heavily armored units.


The Stormfiend is way too small to be a Stormwall. It's a rat ogre. Like, on a 40mm base.

And Skaven have always looked quite steampunky. They aren't a ripoff of Cygnar or anything, they've always had lighting guns and power systems and stuff.
   
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My bad.

Someone mentioned possibly being on the same size bases as the Blight Kings. Mixed up them with the Maggoth Lords, which would be a *bit* closer to Stormwall size.

Although I wouldn't mind Maggoth- sized giant rat ogres with miniguns and electro- nipple dischargers.

Having been on a WMH kick recently, seeing those armor colors and power coils just brought Cygnarian warjacks to my mind.

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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
My bad.

Someone mentioned possibly being on the same size bases as the Blight Kings. Mixed up them with the Maggoth Lords, which would be a *bit* closer to Stormwall size.

Although I wouldn't mind Maggoth- sized giant rat ogres with miniguns and electro- nipple dischargers.

Having been on a WMH kick recently, seeing those armor colors and power coils just brought Cygnarian warjacks to my mind.


Ah I see, fair enough. Easy mistake to make. And no, I doubt many Skaven players would mind that either!

And yeah in those colours I can see the Cygnar comparison... It's just after someone was going on about how fantasy is clearly 'following WMH into steampunk' because of the new Skaven models... I just thought I'd point out Skaven have always been like if
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:

The Stormfiend is way too small to be a Stormwall. It's a rat ogre. Like, on a 40mm base.


Was there a leak I missed that said they were the same size as a Rat Ogre? The illustration makes them look more Boneripper size.

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 SilverDevilfish wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:

The Stormfiend is way too small to be a Stormwall. It's a rat ogre. Like, on a 40mm base.


Was there a leak I missed that said they were the same size as a Rat Ogre? The illustration makes them look more Boneripper size.


Even Boneripper is much too small to be a Stormwall.

I mean I don't know for sure they're on 40mm, that was just my brain connecting rat ogre to 40s, but it's definitely too small to be a Stormwall. Also someone did say same size as a Blightkings which are on 40s.

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 SilverDevilfish wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:

The Stormfiend is way too small to be a Stormwall. It's a rat ogre. Like, on a 40mm base.

Was there a leak I missed that said they were the same size as a Rat Ogre? The illustration makes them look more Boneripper size.

GW models often look larger in pictures than they do in real life. I can see these on a 50mm base at most, although I expect 40mm like current Rat Ogres. I'd also like to know about the unit requiring Packmasters or not. Would they be normal or up armored Packmasters?


 
   
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 SilverDevilfish wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:

The Stormfiend is way too small to be a Stormwall. It's a rat ogre. Like, on a 40mm base.


Was there a leak I missed that said they were the same size as a Rat Ogre? The illustration makes them look more Boneripper size.


40mms. You see a bigger Rat Ogre arm in the background.


If they're Boneripper sized, who in turn is glottikin sized, that thing in the background must be bigger than nagash.

Also, in the blurry pics, they're nowhere nearly as big as the Verminlord.

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 Fango wrote:
The problem with the LE book sets is this:

It costs so dang much, you (or at least I do) get afraid to even touch it. And what are you paying the extra $90 for? A handful of A4 sized art prints? A fancier slip-case? Exclusivity? (I'm one of the 500 people that got one!!!) To me, it's just a fan-boy tax. It's bad enough that I'm paying $75 for the Hardback version (which I felt was splurging over waiting for the softback). GW must hold some World Records for the most money charged per page on a newly published book. ...and that is saying something because Text Books here in the US are insanely expensive!


Man, sometimes it varies so much per freaking army. I own the LE 40k Ork box. My fiance has the LE dark eldar one. His was more expensive than mine if you want to compare price to price. (His was also the more expensive of the two dark eldar options offered. Vect Edition maybe? I think the other LE dark eldar option was like the codex and the painting guide).

So last summer with the 40k ork drop they started doing some of the bigger LE codex drops...more stuff than just a unique cover and art prints.

So my ork box came with metal objective coins, a fancy box sleeve, my codex supplement, my art prints (in a book format) and my codex.

The Dark eldar dropped in late september/early october.

My fiance has acrylic objective coins, painting guide, codex supplement, codex, A "book" that contains the army pages in oversized card format. All his books have nice fancy slipcovers on them and they all came in a nice fancy bundle sleeve thing. His super fancy embossed slipcovers..do what they're supposed to..protect the book. And they look really nice as they are.

I just have unique covers to my ork supplement and ork codex, no slipcovers. I don't carry the box around when I want to run orks, because I don't want to beat it up.

Spoiler:

Going back to the newest leak...I want to see what other options are available. I really don't like the head on that one.

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 thedarkavenger wrote:
 SilverDevilfish wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:

The Stormfiend is way too small to be a Stormwall. It's a rat ogre. Like, on a 40mm base.


Was there a leak I missed that said they were the same size as a Rat Ogre? The illustration makes them look more Boneripper size.


40mms. You see a bigger Rat Ogre arm in the background.


If they're Boneripper sized, who in turn is glottikin sized, that thing in the background must be bigger than nagash.

Also, in the blurry pics, they're nowhere nearly as big as the Verminlord.


That one in the background is also a Stormfiend, so it's on a hill or something.


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So I have a question. I was able to place my order with the book and a set of dice. I wasn't sure if the order went though but when I checked my bank account it had taken money out and I have a 'pending' order with GW on their site.

I checked the bank account again and that payment that was previously there for GW is gone now. But my order is still 'pending' on the website. I only ask because I can't call GW with them being down for the weekend.

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Must say - don't care for the Stormfiends. They're not very Skaven-y looking. Would have been much nicer to finally have none-terrible normal Rat Ogre kit instead. (Or any of the half dozen or more terrible monkey-skaven kits that still need replacing.)

If these are the three kits we're getting, I find the Skaven End times to be kinda a bust. :/

   
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I'm going to give the stormfiends a chance. Even if some think they look like crap i don't think they do. A bit of weird design choices but so what. Besides we've only really seen just one good shot of one of them and none of the new basic rat ogres. Personally i think you guys are being way too critical and way too soon. Even the model shown isn't too bad. It looks to have warp lightning cannon arms so who knows how powerful that'll be.

In my eyes the stormfiends look less heroic and more like a combination of Bane (from 'batman') and the grotesques that the dark eldar have.

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I will hold off judgment on the Stormfiend. I would like normal rat ogres updated from the ld " Master of the Universe " ogres and plague priests updated to at least look like the ones from the Screaming bell / Plague furnace kit.
   
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 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I'm going to give the stormfiends a chance. Even if some think they look like crap i don't think they do. A bit of weird design choices but so what. Besides we've only really seen just one good shot of one of them and none of the new basic rat ogres. Personally i think you guys are being way too critical and way too soon. Even the model shown isn't too bad. It looks to have warp lightning cannon arms so who knows how powerful that'll be.

In my eyes the stormfiends look less heroic and more like a combination of Bane (from 'batman') and the grotesques that the dark eldar have.


And that's exactly what I'll be using them for . Hello my little flesh puppets *insert evil laugh here*

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Units of 1, eh?


Doubt it. I think these are more poised for dramatic camera shot rather than to show off unit size. Reason being: the empire pikemen and riflemen are interleaved and appear to be somewhat curving in formation (again, i think more for camera effect than to reflect formation rules).

Just my take.

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 Haight wrote:
 thedarkavenger wrote:



Units of 1, eh?


Doubt it. I think these are more poised for dramatic camera shot rather than to show off unit size. Reason being: the empire pikemen and riflemen are interleaved and appear to be somewhat curving in formation (again, i think more for camera effect than to reflect formation rules).

Just my take.


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That certainly gives a better idea of how big they'll be.

Not sure why I was thinking they'd all be giant, massive guys on 100mm bases or something.

I wonder how armored their backsides are. Probably not much.

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omg that chest-mounted ratling gun looks sooo bad

Edit:
Also the one in the middle looks like some kind of champion , he is slightly more armored and warpstone "powered"

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Vargheist wrote:


omg that chest-mounted ratling gun looks sooo bad

Edit:
Also the one in the middle looks like some kind of champion , he is slightly more armored and warpstone "powered"


The helmet of the Warpfire one looks much better than the hand... things one.

Also I believe the Ratling Gun one was created with Nazi Science (wonder how many people will get this).

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 SilverDevilfish wrote:


Also I believe the Ratling Gun one was created with Nazi Science (wonder how many people will get this).


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 Platuan4th wrote:
 SilverDevilfish wrote:


Also I believe the Ratling Gun one was created with Nazi Science (wonder how many people will get this).




Haha, that works too. Though I was thinking of Stroheim from JoJo's Bizzare Adventure due to the torso cannon.

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 thedarkavenger wrote:



Units of 1, eh?


Sold.
   
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They kinda remind me of vermin Ultramarines.

   
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Yep sold to me, although I've got a decent theory about these guys not being actual Rat Ogres but something else entirely...

Notice the distinct lack of a pack master in every shot we have seen so far of them, standard rat ogres are completely uncontrollable (I'm talking fluff here) and are simply not trusted to go out by themselves. Also why would a clan put Gatling guns and warp stone pincers on a crazed brute? And to that fact Armour them up good and proper like?

My theory here is that these guys, again fluff wise here, are storm vermin leaders that have acquired a vast amount of wealth and have paid the Clan moulder (I think that's the beast one again) to mutate them into something much more horrific but yet still be able to retain there higher brain functioning and so are completely independent and free willed and therefore do no need a pack master to direct them? Hence the huge armor and weaponry that these guys are packing. Plus the name, both storm vermin and Storm Fiends have the word storm in which kinda ties the two together.

But then again this is Skaven we are talking about and if anyone was to give crazed steroid filled monsters Gatling guns, it would be those guys

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